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Originally posted by dj tek ^^^ on the money.. my gf got me into his stuff and i have to say this guy has some amazing work.. he tends to use children in his films and seem to know exactly how a child's mind works... also doesnt get sucked into that 'kiddy' zone and represents a world where both youths and adults can equally enjoy... and always has a great moral/message in the movie.. ive also heard that he personally hand draws ALL of his work, no computers.. too bad Spirited Away was his final project.

Hah yeah americanized anime, of course youd like it

Anyway Ive seen Gits 2 Innocence at the Toronto Film Festival about a week ago, Im not going to talk about any plot points,but there still might be some spoilers, so dont scroll down unless you want to risk it.


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First of all, the art was mindblowing. When I got home after the showing I watched Inuyasha on adult swim to compare and was revolted by the garbage that it is.

The colours, the movement, the shading, the detail on the fore- and background, the CGI...theres this one scene, the parade, that just made me jizz my tighty whities(my close friend the anime animal claims that scene took a year to make). Hell you could turn off the sound and still enjoy the movie.

The dialogue...damn where do I begin. It seems like every third line anyone says is a quote. Maybe its supposed to be cool or something, but to me its just annoying to be hearing Confucius or Sun Tzu over and over again.

The dialogue style also reminds me of Jin Ro, Wolf Brigade. Havent seen Jin Ro? Well let me explain how Jin Ro style dramatic conversation works:

1. Two or more people are standing completely still, staring at nothing.
2. 10 minutes passes with people not moving, staring somewhere.
3. Someone says a line without moving his body or eyes.
4. 10 more minutes of waiting.
5. Someone answers the first person without moving his body or eyes.
6. 10 more minutes of stillness zoomed in on one character's still face.
7. Scene ends

There's really a lot of metaphysical discussion here as well just like in the first one, so be ready to watch it again to get everything.

Now, what really was a pleasant surprise for me is the amount of humour in the movie. It's about time serious anime had some funny in it to take away some tension from the viewer. Maaan, when that bare-assed little girl ran for it I just cracked up, youll know what I mean when you see it in the movie.

Plot? It was alright, although I would have wished for something more mind-blowing to fit the mind-blowing art.

My verdict - Go watch it at the movies, and then get it on DVD.

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Originally posted by DJ_Bod [rant on] Oh god, do I despise Eva. IMO, that is one of the worst animes I've seen. I just don't understand why everyone loves it so much. [rant off]

Have you seen the ENTIRE series? I must admit, if you've only seen a few episodes here and there, it really sucks. But once you've watched it all from episode 1-26 and then to have seen both movies as well... forget about it - if you don't like it by then... then you obviously don't like things that are good

And if you are initially interested in Anime, watch Cowboy Bebop - it's the most un-anime-ish show out there that has been deemed as an anime It's about style and story - always has been with any worthwhile form of entertainment.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Have you seen the ENTIRE series? I must admit, if you've only seen a few episodes here and there, it really sucks. But once you've watched it all from episode 1-26 and then to have seen both movies as well... forget about it - if you don't like it by then... then you obviously don't like things that are good And if you are initially interested in Anime, watch Cowboy Bebop - it's the most un-anime-ish show out there that has been deemed as an anime It's about style and story - always has been with any worthwhile form of entertainment.

Yes I did see all of Eva. My roomate had all of it on DVD, so I'd watch a couple episodes a night til I finished it. I honestly don't know why, but I just didn't like it. *shrug* My least favorite scene of all was where Shinji was leaving (for one of the million times ) and it just showed him standing at the train station for 10 minutes.... no movement, no dialogue, just secadas in the background. Oh, I wanted to jab out my eyes during that whole seen.

The best parts of Eva were when Shinji went apeshit, and the penguin. That thing was cool.

And, for the record, I wasn't saying Eva was bad, but just voicing that I didn't like it. .Hack//sign is the same way, from what I've read. Either people love it, or hate it. Almost no in between. *shrug*

Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Ninja Scroll
Ghost in the Shell
Full Metal Panic
Full Metal Alchemist
Naruto
Wolfs Rain
Jing King of Bandits
Berserk
Hunter X Hunter
One Piece
Outlaw Star
Macross Plus
Samurai Deeper Kyo
Kenshin (movies, and series)
Akira
Ah My Goddess (guilty pleasure )
Blue Gender
Cowbow Bebop
Witch Hunter Robin
Escaflowne
End of Evangelion
Gundam Wing
Hellsing
Jin_roh Wolf Brigade
Mononoke Hime
Perfect Blue
Rahxephon
Record of Lodoss War
Last Exile
Spriggan
Trigun

Read the Berserk Manga as well. Its a lifes work.

Go to Anime-Planet.com and check it out. Run by a fellow TA and never seen a better site.

Gawd I hate you US ppl who get to see that gem now
There are no Fansubs available yet and those fucking ppl from Buena Vista already bought the rights of Innocence -> no english subs on the japanese DVD

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Just downloaded GITS2 I'll post a review tonight after i watch it As for other anime, I recommend: Hack Sign, Cowboy Bebop! They are both awesome

You speak japanese?

can someone hook me up with cowboyw bebop torrents ? or simply nice enough to share it with me ?

anime-planet.com check out the community forum. there is something that will direct you to others who share similar beliefs of sharage.

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Originally posted by Mysterio You speak japanese?

Hardly all the eps were dubbed/subbed

On a sad note, the copy of GITS2 i downloaded was corrupt , so no reviews from me...

Eva is simply the best anime there is followed closely by Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop. Most people that hate Eva usually dont understand it at all. I havent seen them all yet though, as they are hard to come across if you dont have much money.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Hardly all the eps were dubbed/subbed On a sad note, the copy of GITS2 i downloaded was corrupt , so no reviews from me...

�hhmm... there are no dubs/subs on the net for Innocence yet so why download it?

Not a bad movie, although I enjoyed the original more. The artwork was amazing but the plot/story was a little weak imo.

no spoilers in my post, but only my opinion

GITS: good animation, too short, good action, okay plot, better with multiple watches

GITS SAC: good animation, good plot, good action, 8/10 really liked this series

GITS SAC 2nd Gig: more of the same, good again

GITS INNOCENCE: very good animation, but really not my kind of film, i prefer a little more action, and more of the major. not fair. just an average film in the end, nothing to get upset about missing

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Originally posted by Kakoroto Eva is simply the best anime there is followed closely by Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop. Most people that hate Eva usually dont understand it at all. I havent seen them all yet though, as they are hard to come across if you dont have much money.

*COUGH* Bootleg *COUGH*

Seriously, though. If you just want to get it to see it, until you can save up a bunch of money to get the real thing, I think you can get the HK version of Eva for like 35 bucks. Not too shabby.

And the two bootlegs that I have that I liked, I did go buy the real version, I don't want to hear any of this "support the business" crap, because I do.

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Originally posted by DJ_Bod *COUGH* Bootleg *COUGH* Seriously, though. If you just want to get it to see it, until you can save up a bunch of money to get the real thing, I think you can get the HK version of Eva for like 35 bucks. Not too shabby. And the two bootlegs that I have that I liked, I did go buy the real version, I don't want to hear any of this "support the business" crap, because I do.

Or you could just download it. I have them all ripped-subbed. but i'm sure you could get your hands on some nice dual language ogm's now..

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Originally posted by chojin Or you could just download it. I have them all ripped-subbed. but i'm sure you could get your hands on some nice dual language ogm's now..

true, I could just DL them, however, I hate my small crappy monitor and speakers... I'd rather get a DVD version so I can watch it on my TV with 5.1 surround.

BTW, Impressive anime list chojin. I'll have to check if my animenfo list is updated, so I can show you what I have.

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http://www.animenfo.com/myanimedb.php?userid=14209

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Originally posted by Mysterio �hhmm... there are no dubs/subs on the net for Innocence yet so why download it?

Well apparently the version i was downloading from the rls group i belong to was subbed... but it didn't work anyhow. Even without the subs, would have still been fun to see the nice animation, and brush up on my semi-non-existent japanese skills

Neon Genesis Evangelion is the best series I've seen. For comedy I'd say Chobits is top. And for samurai action I highly recommend Samurai Champloo.. great animation, interesting story.

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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict Well apparently the version i was downloading from the rls group i belong to was subbed... but it didn't work anyhow. Even without the subs, would have still been fun to see the nice animation, and brush up on my semi-non-existent japanese skills

Hawks have released two versions. they've released a cam and a dvd version both subbed. i got the cam version, subbing wasn't too amazing, quality not too good either, but watchable until i can get a US version to burn on cd

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Originally posted by DJ_Bod I'd rather get a DVD version so I can watch it on my TV with 5.1 surround.

Just get a vid card with a TV out, and a soundcard that is 5.1 compatible.. probably cheaper than going out and buying everything on DVD

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Originally posted by chojin Hawks have released two versions. they've released a cam and a dvd version both subbed. i got the cam version, subbing wasn't too amazing, quality not too good either, but watchable until i can get a US version to burn on cd

Both subed??!?!?!

DOWNLOADING!!!

FUCK BUENA VISTA! I WANT SUBS ON THE DVD

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Originally posted by Mysterio Both subed??!?!?! DOWNLOADING!!! FUCK BUENA VISTA! I WANT SUBS ON THE DVD

cool

i deleted the cam after i'd watched it

a few comments ^_^

1. neither of these rips is recommended if you want good subtitles.
for more info, feel free to read this thread: http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13300

2. gits: innocence is not a sequel to the first movie

3. *points to signature* i'll remind everyone again that the anime recommendation database is quite helpful for finding new series to watch and anyone that uses animenfo is crazy, it sucks ass for getting any useful information, unless you like badly translated descriptions that make no sense and flat out wrong information in general o_O

4. if you want GITS: SAC stuff, i have about 50 promo posters from Manga (as well as about 50 each for Kai Doh Maru, Dead Leaves, and Read or Die) and am having tons of contests on the site to win them stay tuned on the main page or the global announces in the forum for more info.

5. hi orbax!

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Originally posted by chojin Hawks have released two versions. they've released a cam and a dvd version both subbed. i got the cam version, subbing wasn't too amazing, quality not too good either, but watchable until i can get a US version to burn on cd

Yeh, that's the version I went to download... crashed windows explorer when i clicked on it though

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Originally posted by sothis 2. gits: innocence is not a sequel to the first movie

Really? Please explain.

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