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Posted by Alexan on Sep-22-2004 08:54:

quote:
Originally posted by m0-0n
@ MASSIVE84 - I don't use Fruity Loops, but should he download the free ASIO driver to improve the latency of his generic soundcard? I use the ASIO4ALL driver on my laptop and it has works great with Cubase SX2. I only use my laptop when traveling but the ASIO4ALL driver seems stable and prevents latency issues.

Here's the link if you need it:
http://michael.tippach.bei.t-online.de/asio4all/

@ mellankali - Your PC sounds powerful enough to run FL for sure.
Get a midi keyboard (Evolution 249C is good) and you're in business. Then if you find that you're serious about making music, invest in a nice set of monitors (speakers) - Mackie HR824's will make you smile!

m0-0n

for sure! not as difficult as some people make it out to be. A simple midi controller or keyboard with midi enabled is really all you need apart from your software. I just started off with a handy down Yamaha PSR-230 keyboard

Posted by mellankali on Sep-22-2004 11:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Alexan
You can't expect a self proclaimed newbie who only just installed a demo of FL onto his PC to be able to use Cubase can you?

I agree

quote:
Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
thats why there are numours pdf guides and pressing f1 will point you in the right direction.

Would you be able to point me in the direction of some of these PDF guides? As of right now, I'm stuck with an online manual that basically describes what things do, but not really how to use any of them!

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-22-2004 13:21:

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Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
agreed reason can do good shit but i still state that reason tracks that are done souly in reason are shit. not musically but sound wise it all sounds the same. now if you rewire reason then why even bother with reason just use cubase seriously now, its not a load of bullshit and soundcard does matter quite a bit with vstis. and to clearly say tis load of crap without evens aying whats crap si rather ignorant. what i siad was rather usefull, and no you dont need a bad ass card you just need one that can do higher smaple rates and can produce better sounds.

on another note is your soundcard a built in soundcard or not, usually built ins really suck ass. even going out and buyign a 20dollar sound blaster card will make things sound better

Tell that to MK-S. He sure feels like an ass producing a popular trance tune with nothing but Reason and a built-in soundcard now.

Posted by Alexan on Sep-23-2004 07:44:

Posted by mellankali on Sep-25-2004 23:13:

so i've been messing around with FL Studio the past few days, and things are sort of starting to make sense. i also downloaded and had at the reason demo for about 15 minutes before i just about gave up because i had no idea what the hell was going on. although i must say, it was kind of cool to look at the software as though it were hardware.

anyways, i was wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten to me as to why programs like reason, cubase, or logic cost hundreds of more dollars than fruity loops? being a beginner at this stuff, it seems like in the end you will get the same result. or am i totally wrong?

thanks!

Posted by Alexan on Sep-26-2004 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by mellankali
so i've been messing around with FL Studio the past few days, and things are sort of starting to make sense. i also downloaded and had at the reason demo for about 15 minutes before i just about gave up because i had no idea what the hell was going on. although i must say, it was kind of cool to look at the software as though it were hardware.

anyways, i was wondering if anybody might be able to enlighten to me as to why programs like reason, cubase, or logic cost hundreds of more dollars than fruity loops? being a beginner at this stuff, it seems like in the end you will get the same result. or am i totally wrong?

thanks!

RTFM man!

Logic and such cost more because they are more technical and more powerful programs than FL Studio and it took more programming power to make them. Don't worry 'bout them now anyways, just learn everything there is to klnow about FL Studio.

Posted by Pimp_fu on Sep-26-2004 01:01:

Cakewalk SONAR 3

Supports BOTH DXi and VSTi (with the VST adapter)
Also provides rewire support, so you can re-wire FL Studio in as a plug in. Damn intuitive interface, supports ASIO as well.

ASIO 4 all is a pretty good driver, considering the price.

Posted by DJDIRTY on Sep-26-2004 03:17:

Hi there.

I just wanted to add that, You should get a production friend. What I mean is You could try hooking up with someone that already knows the software you will be using, and than watch him make some tunes. I think that's the best way, works for a lot of people. Cause in very short time you'll can see how to perform the basic, and probably the most important things to get you started, plus he can answer any question for you and show you right there. It's really good to see stuff in front of you, tutorial videos are good for that as well.

Posted by Alexan on Sep-26-2004 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Pimp_fu
Cakewalk SONAR 3

Supports BOTH DXi and VSTi (with the VST adapter)
Also provides rewire support, so you can re-wire FL Studio in as a plug in. Damn intuitive interface, supports ASIO as well.

Again, too technical. We want to help this guy not confuse him.

Posted by Subtle on Sep-26-2004 08:51:

what u need is a program that lets u do approximately what u want, and that isnt difficult to learn.. but more creative than Magik or E-Jay..

basically u just need to get a program and start messing around, I would simply recommend u 2 get one of these:

Reason
FL Studio
Orion Platinum
Arturia Storm
Cakewalk Project 5

as for the soundcard, a demo version of Cubase or something will let u get your hands on a couple of ASIO drivers, which are pretty good

Posted by Alexan on Sep-26-2004 08:58:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Subtle
what u need is a program that lets u do approximately what u want, and that isnt difficult to learn.. but more creative than Magik or E-Jay..

basically u just need to get a program and start messing around, I would simply recommend u 2 get one of these:

Reason
FL Studio
Orion Platinum
Arturia Storm
Cakewalk Project 5

as for the soundcard, a demo version of Cubase or something will let u get your hands on a couple of ASIO drivers, which are pretty good [/QUOTE

Exactly. Althogh I wouldn't recommend Arturia Storm.

Posted by mellankali on Sep-26-2004 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Alexan
RTFM man!

Logic and such cost more because they are more technical and more powerful programs than FL Studio and it took more programming power to make them. Don't worry 'bout them now anyways, just learn everything there is to klnow about FL Studio.

I would read the manual if I had one, but I couldn't find a stand alone one when I downloaded the demo

But more on your comment of how the other programs are more technical and more powerful, could you give an example of how? I've heard you can "re-wire" FL Studio as a plug-in, which is interesting to me because I have no idea how re-wiring works. But are you able to acheive more "powerful" sounds? Or do the same sounds sound better in more powerful programs? Or do the more powerful programs offer additional ways to tweak the sound more to your liking?

I apologize if this seems like an annoying question, but most the program reviews I can get my hands on all use the same language and asides from the pricetags, I can't seem to really pin-point the differences.

Posted by Alexan on Sep-26-2004 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by mellankali
I would read the manual if I had one, but I couldn't find a stand alone one when I downloaded the demo

But more on your comment of how the other programs are more technical and more powerful, could you give an example of how? I've heard you can "re-wire" FL Studio as a plug-in, which is interesting to me because I have no idea how re-wiring works. But are you able to acheive more "powerful" sounds? Or do the same sounds sound better in more powerful programs? Or do the more powerful programs offer additional ways to tweak the sound more to your liking?

I apologize if this seems like an annoying question, but most the program reviews I can get my hands on all use the same language and asides from the pricetags, I can't seem to really pin-point the differences.

http://www.internetdj.com/article.php?storyid=377

Some great comments form the users there^^^

Well it's been a heated argument on boards everywhere if FL Studio is more powerful or not. Really it shouldn't be so hard. FL is great utility that is really good if you add some good VSTi's like Pro-53. Peole argue that Cubase is more powerful, it may be but FL Studio it still a stong contender. Cubase and Logic are great because they alos support VSTi's but also have powerful MIDI features and can have many instruments connected to it via MIDI and run smoothly with no problem and no poorer sound quality. I think you should make the decision for yourself. I use FL Studio myself anyways, and I do alot of stuff using Reason too.

Posted by mellankali on Sep-26-2004 14:55:

Thank you for the link. I had a read over there and you're right, it does seem like there is just an big argument between people about which is better. I thought maybe it was just a matter of personal preference, but plenty of people seem to have their reasons for believing one to be better than the other. For now, I think I'll stick with FL Studio (limited budget at the moment), and check into getting some plugins for it. Now, I'll have to give that 20 page sticky thread a good read

Posted by Alexan on Sep-27-2004 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by mellankali
Thank you for the link. I had a read over there and you're right, it does seem like there is just an big argument between people about which is better. I thought maybe it was just a matter of personal preference, but plenty of people seem to have their reasons for believing one to be better than the other. For now, I think I'll stick with FL Studio (limited budget at the moment), and check into getting some plugins for it. Now, I'll have to give that 20 page sticky thread a good read

Great!

Here are the links to some free VST synths:
Superwave P8
Triangle II
Lallapallooza

Posted by Alexan on Sep-27-2004 03:00:

Posted by Pimp_fu on Sep-27-2004 05:02:

I "work" Almost exclusively in Sonar, Because its a very versatile Platform. But as far as the old Fruity Sux debate, Some of the more "professional" platforms, Cubase, Reason, P5, even Sonar don't lend themselves as well to on the spot creation. With FL, The creative process becomes infinitely more "natural". The interface of FL makes it a lot simpler to make Music instead of learning software. That's your first intention anyway right? Learn al the other stuff as you go. FL Studio is PLENTY powerful enough, simple to use, and great looking to boot.

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