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Originally posted by BadBadNeil If you wanted more cultural diversity in the States it would be best to be in the larger more culturally diverse cities equal in size with say a Toronto. Like you stated you probably won't get that in Tennessee, but perhaps NYC, Boston, Miami, Chicago, cities in Cali etc. Blacks and hispanics are the largest minorities so it makes sense that you see lots of them

i've been to a lot of these cities and i can testify that they're as ethnically diverse as Toronto .. perhaps not per capita, but enough such that it's pretty seemless going from city to city. when i was in Europe i noticed that a lotta the major cities are becoming as equally diverse if not moreso.. times are changing and so is this world

Canada is both a European wannabe AND an American wannabe at the same time.

Ya I can see that

Montreal has a european feel(for N.America at least) and Calgary the most American city outside of the U.S.

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Originally posted by imokruok We'll take Alberta and maybe BC. States number 51 and 52.

State 51 has already been taken.. its called Israel

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Originally posted by Cyrus King State 51 has already been taken.. its called Israel

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Originally posted by Cyrus King State 51 has already been taken.. its called Israel

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Originally posted by Cyrus King State 51 has already been taken.. its called Israel

Heh, I was just waiting till someone was gonna say that...

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Originally posted by Cyrus King State 51 has already been taken.. its called Israel

Touch� Cyrus, Touch�.

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Originally posted by ZinG Italian explorer John Cabot reached Newfoundland in 1497, while French explorer Jacques Cartier explored the region in the 1500s. In the 1600s, French settlers, who became known as Acadians, were the first Europeans to settle permanently in Canada. Over time, they were joined by settlers from British Isles and Germany. In 1535, two Aboriginal youths used the Huron-Iroquois word "Kanata" which means "village" or "settlement" to tell Jacques Cartier the way to Stadacona (site of present-day Quebec city). Cartier used "Canada" to refer not only to Stadacona, but also to the entire area subject to Donnacona, Chief of Stadaconna. Canadian are not wanna be Europeans, part of them is European, just like Americans

that's the first decent statement, that I've ever heard mazen make.

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Originally posted by torontotrance that's the first decent statement, that I've ever heard mazen make.

bah i'm sure it was copied from somewhere

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i've been to a lot of these cities and i can testify that they're as ethnically diverse as Toronto .. perhaps not per capita, but enough such that it's pretty seemless going from city to city. when i was in Europe i noticed that a lotta the major cities are becoming as equally diverse if not moreso.. times are changing and so is this world

in other words, Europe's being invaded and colonized.

but only Europeans are admonished for colonizing

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf in other words, Europe's being invaded and colonized. but only Europeans are admonished for colonizing

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf in other words, Europe's being invaded and colonized. but only Europeans are admonished for colonizing

Hmm, I don't think Europeans had native american visas and residence permits when they decided to colonize the new world...

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hmm, I don't think Europeans had native american visas and residence permits when they decided to colonize the new world...

so you're ok with what's going on then?

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf so you're ok with what's going on then?

Well, while I do agree that a large scale immigration that is happening these days is a partially destroying the current cultural identity of Europe, it's difficult to say at this current time whether that is a good or a bad thing. Whatever the future will bring, large scale immigration in Europe is necessarry because of the generally low birth rates, especially in Italy. Without a large work force influx from the surrounding countries, Italian economy would quickly break down because of a disproportional ratio of old vs young people. So untill the governments in Europe find a way to encourage people into multiplying faster, I don't think there's any other solution to keep the society functioning other than allowing large masses of immigrants to get in. At least until we're able to design robots capable of performing most human actions.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, while I do agree that a large scale immigration that is happening these days is a partially destroying the current cultural identity of Europe, it's difficult to say at this current time whether that is a good or a bad thing. Whatever the future will bring, large scale immigration in Europe is necessarry because of the generally low birth rates, especially in Italy. Without a large work force influx from the surrounding countries, Italian economy would quickly break down because of a disproportional ratio of old vs young people. So untill the governments in Europe find a way to encourage people into multiplying faster, I don't think there's any other solution to keep the society functioning other than allowing large masses of immigrants to get in. At least until we're able to design robots capable of performing most human actions.

Simple solution: Europeans should have more children, at least three per family.

Immigration itself it not the problem: there's nothing wrong with a few thousand per year. What's going on now is not immigration, but invasion... there are millions of them.... and that's not right. The invasion should be stopped today and foreigners encouraged to go home (with money).

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Originally posted by dEsidEL when i was in Europe i noticed that a lotta the major cities are becoming as equally diverse if not moreso..

I won't disagree with that statement, but it's a good point to ask whether that's a good thing. In the suburbs of Paris, "diversity" means Muslim honor killings and gang raping of the "infidels." In Malm�, you have areas of the city with quasi-Islamic law. Diversity is interesting to some degree, but there's a point at which you will come to a clash of incompatible cultures.

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Originally posted by imokruok I won't disagree with that statement, but it's a good point to ask whether that's a good thing. In the suburbs of Paris, "diversity" means Muslim honor killings and gang raping of the "infidels." In Malm�, you have areas of the city with quasi-Islamic law. Diversity is interesting to some degree, but there's a point at which you will come to a clash of incompatible cultures.

wells then thank goodness that doesn't seem to be happening in Toronto

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Originally posted by dEsidEL wells then thank goodness that doesn't seem to be happening in Toronto

yes it is... not only that but we will soon have Sharia law

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...5177409128&call

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf yes it is... not only that but we will soon have Sharia law http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...5177409128&call

Bingo. You move to Canada, follow Canadian laws. Don't bring your third-world antiquated religious baggage with you.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Well, what should they be like? 51st US state?

like israel eh?

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Originally posted by imokruok Bingo. You move to Canada, follow Canadian laws. Don't bring your third-world antiquated religious baggage with you.

Unfortunately the Lieberal government panders to them in order to get their votes.

But don't take my word for it: check out their plan.

http://www.canadianislamiccongress.com/election2004/

i dont get it. why couldnt new cultures be a good thing?

as long as they keep to the new coutries laws, which they obviously have to do, i cannot see the problem...

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Simple solution: Europeans should have more children, at least three per family.

Well, yeah, identifying the problem is the simple part that anyone can come up with. How to solve that problem, that's the real question. Perhaps providing massive childbearing subsidies and starting large scale programs which would encourage people to have more children is a solution, but such solutions cost a lot of money. Masses, on the other hand, are pretty short-sighted, and if they need to choose between such options on one hand, and minor tax cuts and immigration on the other, most of them will selfishly choose tax cuts, with immigration as the necessary evil. However, reactions often come late, and when that happens, they're usually overreactions. So it may be possible that when immigrant population will rise enough to become a significant percentage of population, that the people will then become more aware of their national status and start voting for far right parties, breeding more children, banning imigrants, and perhaps even chasing away already naturalized citizens of foreign descent. Hopefully it will not come to that, but that's kinda how those things usually go (take Serbia and Kosovo, or Macedonia as examples).

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Immigration itself it not the problem: there's nothing wrong with a few thousand per year. What's going on now is not immigration, but invasion... there are millions of them.... and that's not right. The invasion should be stopped today and foreigners encouraged to go home (with money).

I wouldn't call that invasion, because for you to be invaded, you should at least try to oppose the invaders. So far the immigrants are not forcefully entering the EU, and therefore there can be no talk about an invasion.

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Originally posted by Urbanmessiah Canadiens

and from toronto.... cant let you get away with that one.

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