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Posted by fr0st on Sep-22-2004 19:31:

pvd suxxorz....


Posted by dj tek on Sep-22-2004 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
pvd suxxorz....

your jacked, fr0st.....



just wanted to say that.


Posted by h202h on Sep-22-2004 20:16:

so sasha dropped that Primal Scream track again...good im glad....but im fucking pissed that i missed that night...yo dennis did he spin Scissor Sisters - Laura (Paper Faces Mix) again...and how long did each dj spin for


Posted by DesifromJC on Sep-22-2004 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SnOw DaWg
werd both sick sets i recorded it and it will be up on the "Hub" in an hour or so. The recordings came out really good.


Can someone PM the link to the "Hub" since I missed out on this incredible party?? I really want to see PVD and Sasha..and CROBAR(since I haven't been there yet)!! Thanks.


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Sep-22-2004 20:56:

yea ill have to agree that SASHA def PWNED me...and it was CLEAR that he was the more masterful producer/dj...PVD was fine but he was off beat at times and he was def more tech trance last nite...altho i sincerely enjoyed For an Angel and Time of Our Lives...mann the lights were fukin CRAZY during his set tho!!! fo sho...


hey did neone check out if the footage was broadcast? they said it would...i know there's prolly gonna be madd TAs in some of the broadcast for sure!!


Posted by amdmaxx on Sep-22-2004 21:04:

Ye, they interviewed us up front in theline wqith DJ Irene, then videotaped inside...
MTV Real life part 3.1476?


Posted by trancEyes22 on Sep-22-2004 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleravegirl
yea ill have to agree that SASHA def PWNED me...and it was CLEAR that he was the more masterful producer/dj..


THANK YOU!! i hate how everyone says Sasha puts them to sleep. you must be a fucking boring person to just think sasha's music is boring. pvd is predictable and every track he plays sounds the same.

SASHA OWNS YOU ALL!!!


Posted by phoenixBEBE on Sep-22-2004 22:13:

nah man...it was def clear who was #1 last nite...im def hitting up his 10/15 gig in NYC..


Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-22-2004 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DesifromJC
Can someone PM the link to the "Hub" since I missed out on this incredible party?? I really want to see PVD and Sasha..and CROBAR(since I haven't been there yet)!! Thanks.


Don't you noobs know that piracy of any kind is not tolerated around here??? Yes this means talking about the 'hub'


Posted by ShellSh0ck on Sep-22-2004 23:17:


here it goes again ...The "who is better" Drama


Posted by DJDavidScott on Sep-23-2004 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
I used to love PVD...but he just doesnt do it for me anymore.

When you have an hour, you can bring your best to the tables and not worry about fillers. To me, PVD has turned into...

repetitive bassline
simple melody
repetitive bassline
simple melody
repetitive bassline
simple melody
break
repetitive bassline
simple melody
repetitive bassline
simple melody
repetitive bassline
PVD Track
Repeat

Sasha doesnt expect you to walk out liking everything. But even if you didnt like it, you can see his creativity with it.

With PVD, he just throws that hard driving repetitive bassline with boring simple melodies layed over them. For some reason, everyone goes crazy.



HUH?


Posted by sandstorm03 on Sep-23-2004 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DavidScott
HUH?



im guessing that

quote:
Sasha doesnt expect you to walk out liking everything. But even if you didnt like it, you can see his creativity with it. With PVD, he just throws that hard driving repetitive bassline with boring simple melodies layed over them. For some reason, everyone goes crazy.


is confusing you. Probably since Sasha plays a lot of boring stuff, weather it's to get you into a progy dancy "mood" or not, its boring. He does drop some harder stuff that is better, like philth but thats a mear fraction of his set. Maby 3/4 tracks that get you moving in an 2 hour span.

And can you please explain to me about the complexity of melodies in prog? Since i am a n00b. Because the last time i checked prog has a very small melody, most of the time not even noticeble one over a hopefully good bassline. Do people listen to Prog because it has good melodies? I know i don't. Melodic prog, like some of the stuff armin is playing & some other djs play just sucks. It gets floaty, fluffy and pointless. Does GU 13 have good "prog" melodies? Or is it this thing called trance? I couldn't tell you a prog track with a melody even nearingggggg the complexity of the worst trance melody.

It must be a miracle that paul can get millions of people world wide to actually dance.


Posted by intelligent77 on Sep-23-2004 01:58:

i hate all of you cuz i couldn't see any of this!


Posted by DeRangedMind on Sep-23-2004 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by intelligent77
i hate all of you cuz i couldn't see any of this!



yeah lucky them heh


Posted by Choobak on Sep-23-2004 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
im guessing that



is confusing you. Probably since Sasha plays a lot of boring stuff, weather it's to get you into a progy dancy "mood" or not, its boring. He does drop some harder stuff that is better, like philth but thats a mear fraction of his set. Maby 3/4 tracks that get you moving in an 2 hour span.

And can you please explain to me about the complexity of melodies in prog? Since i am a n00b. Because the last time i checked prog has a very small melody, most of the time not even noticeble one over a hopefully good bassline. Do people listen to Prog because it has good melodies? I know i don't. Melodic prog, like some of the stuff armin is playing & some other djs play just sucks. It gets floaty, fluffy and pointless. Does GU 13 have good "prog" melodies? Or is it this thing called trance? I couldn't tell you a prog track with a melody even nearingggggg the complexity of the worst trance melody.

It must be a miracle that paul can get millions of people world wide to actually dance.


it's not like this is all black. it's all about taste.

but...

one thing is for sure, even pvd thinks sasha plays a more sophisticated kind of electronic music. he's said it in soundgarden. i think the exact quote (translated) was, "sasha is one of my favorite dj's. he plays a more sophisticated sound."


Posted by cryo on Sep-23-2004 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
THANK YOU!! i hate how everyone says Sasha puts them to sleep. you must be a fucking boring person to just think sasha's music is boring. pvd is predictable and every track he plays sounds the same.

SASHA OWNS YOU ALL!!!


sasha needs to come back to the DC area...


Posted by Tranz on Sep-23-2004 03:02:

SASHA OWNZ YOU ALL!!!!!!








Posted by PVD_S11DJ on Sep-23-2004 03:04:

why are you guys comparing sasha and pvd? they spin totally different types of music... theyre both really talented at what they do.


Posted by DeRangedMind on Sep-23-2004 03:43:

quote:
Originally posted by PVD_S11DJ
why are you guys comparing sasha and pvd? they spin totally different types of music... theyre both really talented at what they do.


+1


Posted by Phazon on Sep-23-2004 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
+1


No one asked u fagboy


Posted by pyro264jb on Sep-23-2004 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Phazon
No one asked u fagboy



lol //


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-24-2004 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Phazon
No one asked u fagboy


ROFL! I've always thought Sasha's music was ahead of it's time...clearly it is...


Posted by Member of X on Sep-24-2004 13:16:

Comparing the two isn't apple and oranges because as mentioned, they aren't spinning the same styles. I like both but I prefer PVD most times in a club because it's more hard. Sasha is experimental and for me, it's 50/50 on if that experiment works. For melodic prog, it's Markus Schulz bitches! Sasha GU Ibiza is awesome but Airdrawndagger and that whole tour was a bit off for me...a little too artsy and not enough meat and potatoes.

Having talked to Sasha for a bit, I came away feeling that the guy was an arrogant prick too which kind of made me sour on him as well.

Taking into saying that Sasha's music is more sophisticated.. I give you that. For me, I don't want to be educated when I'm going clubbing, I want to dance. During his intro I was just sitting there waiting for it to kick in for like 10 minutes... I think I went to use the restroom then.

However, it's hard for me to make blanket statements because while listening to PVD live at Nature One it was quite monotonous. It was just too unrelenting and noisy... which didn't translate well with me at home. In a club it's different for me.

Lastly, each only spun for an hour and I don't think that's the typical fair to judge their performance on.


Posted by Member of X on Sep-24-2004 13:38:

And one last thing, Sasha and Digweed are better together because they balance each other. Sasha brings Digweed's creativity side up and Digweed fleshes out Sasha's wild experimentations. It's like Lennon and McCartney of the Beatles. One's the heart and the other the brain.

Just take a look at the Northern Exposure series.. truly great classic stuff!!

The Delta Heavy Tour was on!


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Sep-24-2004 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
THANK YOU!! i hate how everyone says Sasha puts them to sleep. you must be a fucking boring person to just think sasha's music is boring. pvd is predictable and every track he plays sounds the same.

SASHA OWNS YOU ALL!!!



at the end of the day though, you used to say armin was better than pvd too..


diagnosis: irrelevant opinion.



quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Sasha is experimental and for me, it's 50/50 on if that experiment works. For melodic prog, it's Markus Schulz bitches!


Markus Schulz plays the kind of style that Sasha has moved on from 8/9 years ago. If you want that kind of sound but from someone who isn't stuck in the past on other people's styles and idea's turn to Ben Lost!


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