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Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:51:

^^^
potential flame war

Posted by Radagast on Sep-24-2004 22:51:

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Originally posted by sisterbliss
ASOT

How was trance changed and what change was effected by ASOT?

Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:52:

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Originally posted by DjSimonB
Another fucking trance is dead thread, there's too much negativity in here when these threads get posted so often.

the thing is, evolution does not equal death. the sound always evolves. you could say Kraftwerk's "techno" is dead; i choose to see that today's electronic scene has EVOLVED from Kraftwerk's "techno" (and for that matter, john cage's music and artists from 1920s no one has even heard of but I mention Kraftwerk because they're most famous)

Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-24-2004 22:53:

ASOT is one of the most listened-to shows, and it plays a lot of formulaic, unimaginative and unmemorable music. And because a lot of people listen to it, that stuff becomes more well known than other types of trance. So it didn't totally change trance, but it has shifted the balance a bit, more boring uplifters are coming out these days and getting played than before...

Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:55:

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Originally posted by Radagast
And how did ASOT change trance.

ASOT didn't change anything, ASOT is the new face, the epitome of today's trance. i sense hostility from your side, as if I have killed trance or changed it. i'm just stating my opinion that i think ASOT trance is the sound of '99 trance as it is today. you might say "you fucking idiot, you don't know what you're talking about" but it's just an opinion so i'll save you some troubles in flaming me

Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:56:

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Originally posted by DjSimonB
ASOT is one of the most listened-to shows, and it plays a lot of formulaic, unimaginative and unmemorable music. And because a lot of people listen to it, that stuff becomes more well known than other types of trance. So it didn't totally change trance, but it has shifted the balance a bit, more boring uplifters are coming out these days and getting played than before...

have you ever thought that it might be YOUR taste that's changing and not ASOT being formulaic, unimaginative, and unmemorable (with uplifting being more boring)? i'd suppose that if it really was all those things, it wouldn't be as popular as it is and i think that's a perfectly logical thing to think.

Posted by Radagast on Sep-24-2004 22:59:

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Originally posted by sisterbliss
ASOT didn't change anything, ASOT is the new face, the epitome of today's trance. i sense hostility from your side, as if I have killed trance or changed it. i'm just stating my opinion that i think ASOT trance is the sound of '99 trance as it is today. you might say "you fucking idiot, you don't know what you're talking about" but it's just an opinion so i'll save you some troubles in flaming me

So ASOT is the new face of epic trance, yet at the same time the sound of '99 epic trance? I'm asking what the difference is.

Posted by itsTrueSonic on Sep-24-2004 23:00:

i say deal with the state of trance at the moment ..

or as in the words of the rednecks in South Park

"Get the hellllllll outttttttttttt!!!!!!!"

or just invest in other genres other than trance, because it sounds like you are listening to too much trance..

listen to the radio for a change .. even though that's a very VERY bad alternative, but i just listen to the 80s so that's not bad

Posted by Radagast on Sep-24-2004 23:00:

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Originally posted by DjSimonB
ASOT is one of the most listened-to shows, and it plays a lot of formulaic, unimaginative and unmemorable music. And because a lot of people listen to it, that stuff becomes more well known than other types of trance. So it didn't totally change trance, but it has shifted the balance a bit, more boring uplifters are coming out these days and getting played than before...

How is ASOT epic trance more formulaic, unimaginative, and unmemorable than other epic trance? I want you to talk to me about the structure of the music. Something other than "It just sounds that way."

Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 23:09:

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Originally posted by Radagast
How is ASOT epic trance more formulaic, unimaginative, and unmemorable than other epic trance? I want you to talk to me about the basic structure of the music.

We get it. You don't like trance. Same way I hate lame Bad Boy Bill booty house, with some random guy going, "oh yeah" boom boom "oh yeah". That music isn't any more creative, or any less repetitive.

Posted by mike_stefan69 on Sep-24-2004 23:13:

fuck off you gimps
go and listen to some real DJs live and stop downloading so many fucking ASOTs and GDJBs
clubbing is not a science for fucks sake

Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 23:20:

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Originally posted by Radagast
So ASOT is the new face of epic trance, yet at the same time the sound of '99 epic trance? I'm asking what the difference is.

and i'm telling you once again, i have NOT mentioned EPIC trance once. i have not said "EPIC" anywhere but in replies to you claiming i did

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Originally posted by mike_stefan69
fuck off you gimps
go and listen to some real DJs live and stop downloading so many fucking ASOTs and GDJBs
clubbing is not a science for fucks sake

that's another perspective on the situation, as politely as he could put it, apparently

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer
We get it. You don't like trance. Same way I hate lame Bad Boy Bill booty house, with some random guy going, "oh yeah" boom boom "oh yeah". That music isn't any more creative, or any less repetitive.

that, too is subject to taste (although i must say that taste sucks )

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