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Re: Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by smokeape Well said homo. Good thing your kind doesn't procreate.

Oh smokeape, you are just too much... tee-hee!

Re: Re: Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by Renegade Oh smokeape, you are just too much... tee-hee!

haha kick ass smiley!

who invented marraige (any kind) anyway, the dude must be drunk when he did it.

Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by Renegade http://www.zmag.org/content/print_a...22§ionID=12 I don't think the "sanctity of marriage" argument is valid anymore - if we're going to ban homosexual marriages to preserve the institution, we'd better start banning heterosexual marriages as well based on this evidence. I recommend starting with celebrity marriages then working our way up from there. Thoughts?

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Originally posted by http://www.zmag.org/content/print_a...22§ionID=12 ...There is the additional problem of abandonment. Millions of spouses---including many white middle-class professionals---desert their families and fail to provide sustenance for their own children. Often they do not even acknowledge or stay in contact with their offspring. If heterosexual matrimony is so sacred, you would think it might produce less horrific results...

Which brings this lesbian "momster" story as quoted in the NY Daily News:

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Originally posted by New York Daily News.com (click here) Tragic trip for dad of dead child Suspected abuse of little boy at the hands of lesbian lovers By RALPH R. ORTEGA DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004 The corpse's tiny face was covered in bruises. But beneath the marks that betrayed a young life ending in unfathomable agony, Yovany Tellez made out the once-cheerful face of the little son ripped from him eight months ago. "That's him," the devastated dad softly told the Daily News as he looked at the gut-wrenching photo of his beloved toddler's lifeless body at the medical examiner's office in Manhattan yesterday. Tellez had suspected that his son, who would have turned 2 Oct. 5, was being abused. But the heartbroken Michigan man said he was too late in coming to protect the child, also named Yovany, who was savagely beaten to death inside a filthy Harlem flat early Sunday. Now the boy's mother and her lesbian lover are charged with the child's murder as his father begins the sad journey of bringing his "Gordo" - Spanish for chubby - back home to lay him to rest. "I always knew in my heart that people - maybe the whole world - would come to know my son," Tellez said sadly. "But not this way." Tellez had not seen his tiny namesake since a bitter split with the boy's mother, Zahira Matos. Pregnant with another of Tellez's children, the 21-year-old mom left their home in Kentwood, Mich., with his son and her new love, Carmen Molina. Tellez said he lost touch with Matos when she moved, but that a friend had recently helped him track her down. He learned the women were living in a Harlem housing project, and that Kimberly, the daughter Matos was carrying when he last saw her, had been born two months ago. Then, a relative of Molina's warned him that she may have been abusing his son. Molina, 32, denied it when he confronted her over the phone, but a skeptical and concerned Tellez made plans to come and see his boy this Friday. But six days before Tellez was scheduled to arrive, police found the little boy dead in the filthy flat. His injuries included a torn liver, fractured leg, fractured ribs, bruised face and a bleeding rectum. "I regret not being here in time to save my son," said Tellez, who hopes to win custody of Kimberly, now in a foster home. The tragic turn of events came four years after Tellez met Matos, who was already four months pregnant with another man's child. The couple dated through the birth of Matos' daughter, Yahmliz, now 3. Five months after Yovany was born, Tellez proposed to Matos. "Our plan was to get married and live happily ever after, raising our kids," he said sadly. Tellez, who works marketing vitamins, returned to his hometown of Miami in July last year, hoping to land a new job and find a home for the young family. But the South Florida lifestyle wasn't for him, Tellez said. When he returned to Kentwood, Mich., three months later, his relationship with Matos quickly began to sour. Although Matos became pregnant with Kimberly, it was not enough to stop the couple from splitting. "I thought we'd get back together in a month or so, but she met Carmen," Tellez said. A friend introduced Matos to Molina, a former restaurant worker from New York staying with relatives in Michigan. Tellez said he accepted that his wife had moved on. Although he and Molina never met face to face, he said that when he called to speak with Matos, Molina would often try to provoke him. "I'm your girl's man now, and there's nothing you can do about it," he recalled her saying. Tellez believes Molina turned his onetime fianc�e against him, convincing her to leave her town, 45 miles north of Kalamazoo. In January, just before the women left for New York, Tellez saw his son for the last time. "I gave him a kiss and looked in his eyes and said, 'Gordo, I love you,'" the father said. "He kissed me back and smiled." Molina and Matos both admitted to police that they beat Yovany, but authorities believe it was Molina who struck the fatal blows. Tellez says the women deserve to die. But his mother, Maria Barroso, who rushed with him to New York after learning of her grandson's fate, disagrees. "I don't want the death penalty for them. I want them both in jail for years," Barroso said through tears. "I want them to live with the pain for what they did." With Fernanda Santos and Barbara Ross

Re: Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by ogvh5150

and your point is...?

Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by Renegade http://www.zmag.org/content/print_a...22§ionID=12 I don't think the "sanctity of marriage" argument is valid anymore - if we're going to ban homosexual marriages to preserve the institution, we'd better start banning heterosexual marriages as well based on this evidence. I recommend starting with celebrity marriages then working our way up from there. Thoughts?

My thoughts are that you're a flaming homo! How dare you talk about banning normal marriages... (Edit) Oops, just realized I already posted against Cyrus and his big lip homo gang. Well, sorry about that, didn't mean to offend any c*cksuckers! Lol!!!!!


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Re: Re: Let's Ban Heterosexual Marriage

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Originally posted by smokeape My thoughts are that you're a flaming homo! How dare you talk about banning normal marriages... (Edit) Oops, just realized I already posted against Cyrus and his big lip homo gang. Well, sorry about that, didn't mean to offend any c*cksuckers! Lol!!!!! [[[smoke]]]

I really hope you get hit by a train or something.

I hope Cyrus' Big Lip gang takes care of you, so I don't have to worry about you being left out at the High School prom. What a loser. Didn't your parents, school, neighbors, or church teach you better than pole smoking? Shame on you and don't try an inference on my sig.


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Originally posted by smokeape I hope Cyrus' Big Lip gang takes care of you, so I don't have to worry about you being left out at the High School prom. What a loser. Didn't your parents, school, neighbors, or church teach you better than pole smoking? Shame on you and don't try an inference on my sig. [[[smoke]]]

yes, ladies and gentlemen, he is currently a beer away. he's been visualizing it over and over, and he even has his technique down.

man or ape, who will be the lucky one when he finally breaks his bonds and feels free for the first time in his lonely life? 5 bucks says he'll be so proud of the moment that he posts a picture.



smokepole, move out of alabama and go to san fran, you won't be judged there

I think the sanctity of marriage has gone downward spiral when Michael Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley, and was completely destroyed when Fox aired "Who wants to marry a midget!"

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Didn't your parents, school, neighbors, or church teach you better than pole smoking? Shame on you and don't try an inference on my sig.

Sorry, but in my lifetime, I wasn't taught to hate upon others of mankind just because they choose to love. oh btw, I dont understand how you can openly say that the church teaches you to hate gays, when half of the priest are molesting little boys. Go irony!

I guess in Alabama they failed to see why incest is not the best way to procreate. I guess there might as well be atleast one thing to taboo, but really, who's the bigger threat to the worlds population, stupid, hate driven, religious zealots, or two people of the same sex who just love one another.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Which brings this lesbian "momster" story as quoted in the NY Daily News:

Honestly, her sexual preferance had nothing to do that she was obviously a disturbed individual before having this man's child. There are ten million cases of heterosexual parents doing much worse to their children.

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Originally posted by Massive84 who invented marraige (any kind) anyway, the dude must be drunk when he did it.

The best line I've ever heard, was from Bill Maher, speaking on topic of gay marriages he said...

Really, marriage is a chick thing anyways, so atleast let them have it. Marriage was only something that was devised by church to deal with women's insecurities and to abolish oral sex as we know it.

Her sexual preference had a lot to do with the childs' death. She ran off to be with ger lesbian lover and took her baby away from his father. Only to have him die at the hands of these two.

Like the old saying goes "It takes one bad apple to spoil the barrel".

MOMSTERS

What the fuck are we arguing about. I mean, for fuck's sake. And such.

Marriage sucks.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Her sexual preference had a lot to do with the childs' death. She ran off to be with ger lesbian lover and took her baby away from his father. Only to have him die at the hands of these two. Like the old saying goes "It takes one bad apple to spoil the barrel". MOMSTERS

So are you insinuating that if she had ran off with a straight man, this could of been averted? or that maybe only gays abuse children? their lesbianism has nothing to do with the fact that a.she is abusive b.divorce and seperation of the relationship caused the father to limit him from seeing his son.

Lets get to the core of it. Divorce and Child Abuse is what killed the kid, not lesbianism.

What I am "insinuating" is that people are thinking that heterosexuals are the only ones that commit child abuse and other seed crimes.

And since you are on the subject of this are you "insinuating" that homosexuals make for better child rearing?

For that you might as well say drug users make the best baby-sitters. Or alcoholics make the best airline pilots.

A human is with error no matter what their sexual preference. To say that one group of people are better than the other at no matter what they do is bigotry. And that goes for gays and straights.

This article is nothing more than a distraction from real issues that plague any western society.

It gets you to worry about gay issues but away from things like Osama and Saddams' WMDs.

It gets you away from the 1000 dead troops.

Who cares about Halliburton.

Who cares about Iraqi oil.

Who cares about genocide in the Sudan.

Who cares about North Korea.

Who cares about rising health care costs.

Who cares about the Patriot Act.

Who cares about rising unemployment.

Who cares about world oil prices rising.

Articles like the one that started the thread are just distractions from the everyday real issues.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 What I am "insinuating" is that people are thinking that heterosexuals are the only ones that commit child abuse and other seed crimes.

Then Why say

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Her sexual preference had a lot to do with the childs' death.

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This statement gives the impression that if her sexual preference was different, and she ran off with her male, hetero lover, then the child would be safe. If you're saying that both heterosexuals and homosexuals commit child abuse, then her being a lesbian had nothing to do with the child's death.

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And since you are on the subject of this are you "insinuating" that homosexuals make for better child rearing?

He never insinuated anything like that. He only questioned your reasoning.

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For that you might as well say drug users make the best baby-sitters. Or alcoholics make the best airline pilots.

Thats a pretty ignorant generalization. You might not want to refer to homosexuals as the drug users and alcoholics of society.

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Who cares about Halliburton. Who cares about Iraqi oil. Who cares about genocide in the Sudan. Who cares about North Korea. Who cares about rising health care costs. Who cares about the Patriot Act. Who cares about rising unemployment. Who cares about world oil prices rising.

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This article is nothing more than a distraction from real issues that plague any western society.

Maybe for you, but many people do care about this issue. Your statement about the worthlessness of this topic is merely opinion.
Besides, I didn't know multi-tasking was beyond most of us. Why can't we be interested, involved, or pre-occupied with more than ONE issue, including this issue AND all the other issues you listed? I see no reason why not.

That's your opinion. I do not have to honor it. Neither should you do with mine.

Way to state the obvious You've posted your opinion about this topic, but haven't bothered to justify your point. Basically, according to you, this thread is worthless, because other things are more important cause you said they are. Great. Here's an idea, if you think this topic is worthless and a waste of time, don't waste YOUR time and don't post in this thread

What validity have you and others shown against heterosexual marriage?

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