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Posted by gumble on Sep-28-2004 14:15:

strange that u give armin credit over the other trance djs.

imo, armin is making the scene more stale, churning out sets of similar tunes over and over again.

trance is just a ticket to other genres, u like it for a while, then realise that hey, techno and prog have this thing called GROOVE. and thats what keeps u going, the search for the perfect groove. kinda like surfing.

trance also lacks DEPTH, like party breaks and funky house (altho these may have a groove, it is shallow). so people initally love it as they can just dance along and smile stupidly. so after a few anthems cds it wears thin. you require substance!


Posted by petek on Sep-28-2004 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by gumble

you require substance!


i would need a lot of it to get into prog!


Posted by A.J. on Sep-28-2004 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by waXology
PROBSPOT



For producing, definitely, but does he DJ ????


Posted by G`Dave on Sep-28-2004 16:38:

To be completely honest... I don't really know what the difference is.
I'm aware of what the difference is supposed to be, but I rarely pick up on it, some of what I have I think is trance, but is actually classified as prog and vice versa.
So i can't really comment on which if any I have a higher opinion of, however I know I like alot of what is unmistakably melodic trance and also alot of what is certainly prog.
As for the future of trance and prog, I'll leave that up to those more knowedgable that I, for I am a mear punter.


Posted by Dr P on Sep-28-2004 22:18:

I have always been somewhere between prog and trance anyway, but then I never profess to knowing much about the music I just go out here stuff that I like and be happy. I think some of you lot get too far into the music.

Music is pretty simple and you guys try to be too complex and the meaning and the way it used to be etc..


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-28-2004 22:55:

ill agree and disagree with some points here, but my overall opinion is that people seem to be wanting to clone this typical above and beyond sound while failing to actually produce music that trances you or gives you goosebumps the first time you listen to it.. because for me thats how i identify a good track.

one producer who's fresh and only 22, named gate42, his music delivers imo and be sure to watch out for his stuff in future =) beautiful music really.

as for tech trance, there are some solid gold tunes, and some terrible shite tunes with melodies a 4 year old could play on 'my first keyboard', which is why im not heavily into it.. though a few of the techier sounding tracks that are still very influenced on the trancy melody side get to me..

psy trance i've loved for a while now and i think it's a great way to vary a trance set


Posted by sezzy on Sep-28-2004 23:32:

i'll never get sick of armin and i'll never get sick of uplifting trance


Posted by Spang on Sep-29-2004 00:03:

I totally agree 100000%. i used to go through the new releases and get at least 5 but now i stuggle to find 1 that is any good. Same sound, same melodies. Basslines all sound very similar and Van Buuren is the one who plays this.

Trance has gotten more energetic and pumping i think and lost alot of the dream aspects that 99-2000 had and thats what trance is all about. i feel it sounds too electronic these days. Alot of chessy vocal tracks seem to be coming out aswell.

Artists i think are good. Filo & Peri, Estuera, Tiesto, Gabriel & dresden.

All i play now is prog trance and 99-2000 trance tracks. Old Oakenfold/Tiesto style stuff and ill never get tired of that..EVER


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-29-2004 00:12:

i think the ASOT 'Newest Tunes Selected' isnt always the most original sounding selection of tunes, as he is playing what is new and giving it a bit of promotion

however his skills are always noticable 'In The Mix' for teh second hour as he chooses new tracks and always puts prog and stuff in there...

that is hte best part of his show.


p.s - Probspots productions kick fcuking ass!

especially moving into summer..


Posted by $tip$y on Sep-29-2004 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic

one producer who's fresh and only 22, named gate42, his music delivers imo and be sure to watch out for his stuff in future =) beautiful music really.


good luck to the kid but i find his productions well produced but extremely cheesy...

dave how do u like it? edam or colby?


Posted by Chookie on Sep-29-2004 00:25:

I Will Always Love Uplifting!

I only get sick of you guys whinging about it and going on and on about prog Haven't you started up progaddict yet


Posted by $tip$y on Sep-29-2004 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Chookie
I Will Always Love Uplifting!

I only get sick of you guys whinging about it and going on and on about prog Haven't you started up progaddict yet


are you one of those people who i could play urban train and silence along with 15 songs that are very old and youd call it the best set ever?


Posted by muli on Sep-29-2004 00:57:

yea i agree stips, but not on the Armin comment.

Armin is ok for an easy listen experience, but he dosnt excite me much, just good to hear him play and dance along.


As you would know i am an avid J00F fan aswell as Marco V, these guys are really leading the way of trance IMO.

As for my sets, i love to vary my stuff, if i have a 2 hour set i love to start off proggy and kinda obscure, then move into the prog trance, throw in a few uplifting tunes (mostly old ones tho as there is not much new stuff) and then finish off with a few tech trance & techno tracks


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-29-2004 00:58:

the funniest thing about all this is, while you beleive your 99 trance is not cheesy and '04 trance IS cheesy, there are enthusiasts (one i know who frequents this board) who were into trance in the early 90's who thinks the epic 99 shit you love is cheesy as well. it's a big case of "theres too many noobs now, i used to listen to trance when it WAS decent"..

unfortunate news flash is that when you were getting into trance, there were people back then in the position you are in now.. its like retro music, people born growing up in the 80's will listen to that prince shit day in and day out because it represents a certain time in their life and it represents a feeling that they will never get from a certain style being heard today..

not saying i totally disagree with you, no no no. i've said many times that most new productions coming out are terrible.. thats not to say that there are the few that do it for me..

and by the way i like kraft spreadable.

quote:
Originally posted by $tip$y
good luck to the kid but i find his productions well produced but extremely cheesy...

dave how do u like it? edam or colby?


Posted by muli on Sep-29-2004 01:05:

wouldn't be oni0n now would it Dave


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-29-2004 01:12:

no comment..............


Posted by Chookie on Sep-29-2004 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by $tip$y
are you one of those people who i could play urban train and silence along with 15 songs that are very old and youd call it the best set ever?


ummmm NO


Posted by $tip$y on Sep-29-2004 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Chookie
ummmm NO



Posted by sezzy on Sep-29-2004 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Chookie
Haven't you started up progaddict yet


bwahhaaaaaaaaaaa


Posted by rez on Sep-29-2004 02:06:

if armin is stale then what about blutonium boys weekly hardstyle releases.

the TA massive accumaltes to one big fat jaded bunch of chin strokers


Posted by jizza on Sep-29-2004 02:14:

i'll come out and say it. im jaded. i wont say i hate current trance but by toutatis, i dont go out of my way to listen to the stuff like i used to. i love my house, my tech, my top 40 pop. sorry to say it but trance to me in this point in time is a little stale. tech-trance gives me hope but then again it aint out and out trance now is it?


Posted by sezzy on Sep-29-2004 02:28:

quote:
Originally posted by jizza
my top 40 pop.



Posted by Joshva on Sep-29-2004 02:29:

No I am not sick of uplifting trance. Sorry I do think their are plenty of new and interesting tracks out there. Especially right now


Posted by JulesPLees on Sep-29-2004 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by sezzy
i'll never get sick of armin and i'll never get sick of uplifting trance


I bet my left testicle in a year you will be into something different.

-werd on the probspot to there waxology.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-29-2004 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by JulesPLees
I bet my left testicle in a year you will be into something different.


now thats a wager! any advances on 1 nut boys?


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