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sounds so sick but its so hard 2 do

It is hard. Taken me ages to get it right but when you do. It starts 2 become second nature and its definately wortth having some hardcore scratches under your belt. I am a strong believer in the next generation DJ's have 2 b able to do more than just beat mix live. So I got of my ass got loads of tutorials + Video clips e.t.c. and spent ages learning each and it does pay off eventually. Its then nice to go the club do what everyone else does then blow them alll out of the water by doing more

Ian Knowles Website

Nah I still think Conways is better...Halliwells doesnt have as much rhythm to it..too repetitive..chirp chirp chirp then every 8 beats or so he'll do the crap on it...Ive seen Halliwell do it live..I have supported him in Dublin in Ireland . . .no doubt he's good..not mad on his tracklisting tho !

Yeah theirs allot 2 b desired in his tracklist

Ian, that's some BAD-ASS'd scratching... damn

BTW what track is it that you're scratching to? Nice hard trance track...

Anyone have good sets they can recommend that have good trance + scratches in them?

I get tons of tracks through B4 they come out. This ones a vinyl Groover & Redhed track...

As for DJ's who play trance and scratch thier few and far between mate. None of the big DJ's are doing it (which they F'in should be by now) e.g. I was V.I.P. @ Creamfields this year and thier was a lack of people who actually impressed me not cos thier bad DJ's but the fact that everyones heard them beatmix a million times B4 and they should be doing more as apposed to living off thier big names. Among the DJ's that did impress where Jeff Mills, Dave Clarke & obviously eddie because they where abit more diffinitive in thier own way. If you come across any trance DJ's that scratch(well) pls let me know...

Ian

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Originally posted by Redmondo Nah I still think Conways is better...Halliwells doesnt have as much rhythm to it..too repetitive..chirp chirp chirp then every 8 beats or so he'll do the crap on it...Ive seen Halliwell do it live..I have supported him in Dublin in Ireland . . .no doubt he's good..not mad on his tracklisting tho !

Yeah conways sounds better...it has more mmph to it..eddie's is just all one chirp sound most of the time

I think we also have to look at this thing a lot more in depth than just a few chirps.

While I have a Hip Hop background from long ago and can boast that I can beat juggle, crab etc. I don't do it in trance music. I can emulate eddie's scratch quite easily and make it more complex too. I have to say that I don't think that it's the future.
I do however think the techno DJs give us a glimpse of it. And that's why I have started using three decks these days. I like trying to make live mash ups and getting creative with different tracks, vocals and sounds. I will scratch occasionally too but it's not my main weapon.

I want people to think that they are hearing a new mix of something they know when in actual fact it's me that's doing it. Again not a new idea but if someone can really do this well in my mind you are really working for your money.

I also have a CD of voice samples that I sometimes throw in just to give a different feel. Just want things to feel different.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Ken_Allen http://www.8ballx.net/~bsd/live1conway.mp3

Sorry a bit offtopic but whats the name of that track?

MICHAEL CONWAY will be doing a Scratching Session next saturday night with House music on KMGX Radio. Look for posts in music discussion for more about it next week.

doesnt the needle jump heaps though while ur doing this? cause mine does when i TRY to do it

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Originally posted by skm doesnt the needle jump heaps though while ur doing this? cause mine does when i TRY to do it

Depends on your technique and the scratch itself...

Technique: Where do you put your hand? Imagine facing the turntable downwards and viewing it as a clock. The needle is around the 4-5 o'clock position. Usually you'll want to put your hand as far away from the needle as you can, so put it around 10-11 o'clock position.

Scratch: Lots of scratches are accomplished more through the use of the crossfader, than actual "mad" movement of the record itself. Take a look at this thread to download QBert and Mike in action. Look at their hands... see how much actual movement there is? Or how little that is

You dont really get needles bouncing all over the place when you do scratching provided your firm NOT heavy handed and the Record grips the spindle well and is not warped. Oh and Biggy - Mack sure the wait and Anti-Skate is set up properly - The amount of ppl who dont do it is unbelievable but it really does improve performance. I'm getting more into the digi realm now, even with scratching. The pioneer CDJ's really track the samples well and it sounds much crisper through them.

Ian

nice tutorial ian.

did you use vinyl or CDJ for your scratch

if it was CDJ maybe you can post the sample you used

cheers

This awesome ive always tried to scratch but never fits in track cant wait to try this at home thanks Ian. i think techno is where its at for scratching (besides hip hop)

thanks for this advice, and ive got the hang off the scratching (chirp and flare) but i havent found the right sample that stands out like the ones from your examples. they seem to sound very similar to each other so i thought it could be a well known sample - or a certain sound that everybodys uses - any ideas? a clip of this sound without it being scratched to pieces would be nice.

Thanks!

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Originally posted by Chris d(-_-)b Sorry a bit offtopic but whats the name of that track?

The Well Paid Scientist - The Gander (Original Mix)

Seems like the two samples are gone (tried pasting them into a new window).
Any chance of reuploading them?
Good guide anyways.

yea just saw this topic, would love to know how to scratch like this!

I have an Ecler Nuo-5 it has an awesome scratch fader but i can't put it to good use

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Originally posted by muli yea just saw this topic, would love to know how to scratch like this! I have an Ecler Nuo-5 it has an awesome scratch fader but i can't put it to good use

Buy some battle records. Study the origins of hip-hop and turntablism. Love hip-hop! Then, visit asisphonics.net and learn the basics then practice, practice, practice until you get em down at a slow BPM like 80-90. Don't try to scratch to house or techno when you first start because the tempo is too fast and you will get discouraged.

I just saw this topic and am very flatterd :-X I have yet to hear halliwell scratch, I hear nothing but good things about him.

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Originally posted by michaelconway I just saw this topic and am very flatterd :-X I have yet to hear halliwell scratch, I hear nothing but good things about him.

He's too short and he farts while he is DJing too... so now you have heard some bad things too he he...

Cheers
Nem

PS they are not true, but I do think his scratching is a touch overrated and at times when I have seen him he has been quite flat. But when he is on form he's great fun to watch and a great entertainer.

Just remember guys, there is a whole lot more to scratching than just moving the record back and fourth and chopping the fader.

Just remember guys, there is a whole lot more to scratching than just moving the record back and fourth and chopping the fader. [/QUOTE]



Can you check out that sample of me scratching.. I think its on Page 2 or 3.. and tell me what you think :-D

The DJ can stop the music and sing along to "I shot the sheriff" if it fits into the set AKA for me it doesnt
matter how the DJ scratches, if he only does babies and cuts or if he is the Q-Bert of prog house himself, as long as it fits the set.

The sample is gone..

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