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Originally posted by dellboy Download then buy IF you like it.

No, just download.



Unless its by a poor emerging arist. In other words, only buy if by buying you would consider it charity.

Very interesting topic.

I used to buy a LOT of CD's, and tape singles back in the day when I was younger. But with the evolution of the mp3, I ended up converting my collection and listening to music primarily through my computer instead of a CD player.

Then the ipod came along and that little baby never leaves my side. I rarely purchase CD's nowadays, but will gladly do it, if there's a track I really want. (Interstate's I found you)...

Other stuff like Tiesto's albums...

But, I'm sure I'm hurting CD sales b/c I just don't see a need to buy any. I listen to streamed electronic music now, and occasionally download sets (like on tranceaddict).

But in terms of future sales, if only pay mp3 sites would offer a greater variety of music (it seems like iTunes has crappy electronic stuff), then I may consider purchasing mp3's that way.

CD's are now like 8-track as far as I'm concerned...out of date.

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I download all songs/albums that I�m interested in. I listen to the tracks a few times. When it still makes me feel good, I buy the songs.

I also buy trance & progresive vinyls as much as I can affort, but I select them very carefully, like in the 1st sentence.

And if don�t like the song/album I delete it.

Please note this is mainly for Trance:

I talked to some people (party goers) about this as well and it seems to be all the same. Everyone says without mp3s, there would be no way to really know what artists are out there and what songs are out as well. 1 of the guys I was talking to said that he drove 340 miles to see Mars spin at a party and that his 7 friends all went on a road trip with him. And if it wasn't for his songs, he would have no idea who this DJ was and more importantly all of his other 7 friends would not know either. I think all of us that are in the scene know about the major players in trance, however there are alot of smaller new artists and local artists that would really go without notice. Also these major players might have gotten their names from party scenes across the world, but in my city, it is very hard to find out any information on these people without actually seeing first hand or hearing their work and doing a search for them.

Another thing I thought about was a board like this and people recommending artists and they're stuff. However with many trance songs and the people who listen to it, tastes is very very different to say the least. I think since trance is so unique and special in its own way, at least for me, my own personal past experiences and feelings determine whether a song is good or not. I don't know if you guys are the same or not, but the song has to touch me. Regardless, I think we can all agree that we all love trance, however some people's picks of "incredibly great tunes" on this board does not agree with the likes of others.

Someone mentioned earlier, you buy all the albums you like because you want to have them. I can 100% totally understand you because I am like that with DVDs. I can download divx versions or burn DVDs from rentals all I want, but if I like any movie at all...I just have to have it with the insert and all. ^_^

Those polling options are a bit rigid. I guess a mix of #2 and #3.

I'll be first to admit that I download a shitload of mp3s. But without the internet and mp3s I wouldn�t even be into trance. I'd probably be listening to shitty eurodance/hard nrg that gets played on the radio all the time. Mp3s and sites like tranceaddict.com introduced me to a lot of music I�ve ended up buying. All of the tracks that I download and like a lot I look out for. If I can find them for a reasonable price I�ll purchase. Without the internet I wouldn�t be blowing $100s on ordering vinyls from overseas every couple of months.

I do think there's something special to owning the music. I look at my parents collections of LPs and CDs and think that in 30 years I'd like to be able to play the music I listen to now. That when i'm older I wont have to bother with setting up mp3s from a antique file system, converting them to whatever format that's needed now, backing up cds/dvds of songs. I want the simplicity of just using a record player/stereo without fucking around with computers.

The internet is the cause of/and to solution to all of the recording industries problems

i spend hundreds of $ on records thanks to napster ag etc.

ermm, caddyshack, sorry to tell you this, but napster & AG are long gone

i'm a #3
i download around half a gig of mp3's daily, and buy whatever i like
i also check out internet record stores every once in awhile and go through their stocks to see if they have anything good i havent heard yet

i'm 2... i'll get it for the better quality that my speakers deserve

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Originally posted by josh4 Filesharing HAS to have an impact on record sales. Maybe the impact isn't that great right now, but I think we can all admit filesharing is only gaining popularity... maybe expenentially. I mean come on ... I hardly buy CDs anymore. I have close to 35 electronic albums and 27 of them are completely downloaded. I usually only buy albums when I can't get all the songs in MP3. Good or bad there is nothing that can be done about this. It will continue and only get worse. Eventually organizations like the RIAA will collapse and the world will see a new era of music. Completely free, readily available, and the distribution lines go ARTIST -> AUDIANCE. The number of multi-million billion gazillion dollar artists will decrease because musicians will have to make most of their money from live performances. Music will revert back to pure art form because people only in it for money and fame will be weeded out. It'll make the world a better place. SO GO DOWNLOAD MORE SONGS AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE REVOLUTION!

what a ridiculous post.

so please, tell me, how will a musician eat?

i agree that people who are in it just for the money should be weeded out, and in that sense you are right. but it just doesn't work like that.

if things panned out like this you can say goodbye to a good proportion of all electronica artists. the fact of the matter is people like to go and see dj's (because of the variety) over live acts. a live act is nice every once in a while, but it would get boring, and not all producers DJ. not to mention that no-one will DJ for free unless its a) their first few gigs, or b) they are shit. no-one will keep clubs open, as it will be free to get in, and thus bad business sense to run the place.

the day that music becomes free and readily available is the day everyone who makes music will stop, because they will have to go out and get 9-5 jobs to support them and their families. so no, don't download shit-loads of songs (unless you plan on buying some, or all), and don't contribute to a 'revolution' that is doomed to failure.

BUYING downloads is cheap as chips, over here its only 70p per track which is NOTHING. you can listen before you buy (as you can in any good music shop anyway) and you can buy only the tracks YOU LIKE off any particular album. whats the problem with it? we've been asking for it for years, and now we finally have it; the music industry embracing mp3's as a legitimate format for music. if anything we should be supporting this as it is the way forward for the mp3 'industry' as a whole.

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