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Originally posted by Eye-Riz I got it from De Grote E�n (translated in English 'the big one ) It was a chain of stores located in the eastern part of Holland. BUT, bad news: they went bankrupt last year... (I can imagine that it was because of all the special offers they had!)

That's why !!!!!!!!! 41$ !!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3 u lazy for burning cds but not lazy for pluging ur MD to the computer and then upload the music slowly and then wait , etc ...

well of course its very inconvenient if you put it that way, but most of the times that i record, its only one or two songs at a time or i open winamp,make a playlist,record and leave and this is on my dads computer so i can still use mine and his comp has a digital out.

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Originally posted by neo geo ok i am thinking of buyiny one or the other i like the minidisc cause they are so small but i dont know how good the quality is on them how long can u record on one disc i only rip music at 192 or higher so i will not listen to 128 sounds like crap but i also like mp3 cd player cause u can get 900 mb disc and fill it up with stuff and listen for days i am also wondering how much longer minidisc are gonna be around are they gonna stay i need some more info on them so if u can give me some links to sites to check them out thnaks JEREMY

mini-disks are no good in my opinion. too small, and they are
not going to be around forever. better off getting an mp3/cd player.
i doubt mp3's are going to die anytime soon. i have a sony mp3 player,
and its nice. 128k isnt bad d00d, sounds like a cd. and 900 megs?
come on, thats awsome! thats like 11 full trance raves! mini-disc's
suck... anything mp3 related, is the way to go if you ask me. check
out http://www.crutchfeld.com ..like i was saying,
they have some sweet mp3/cd shit, real cheep! hope i was of some help.


-Juno

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Originally posted by DJ Juno mini-disks are no good in my opinion. too small, and they are not going to be around forever. better off getting an mp3/cd player. i doubt mp3's are going to die anytime soon. i have a sony mp3 player, and its nice. 128k isnt bad d00d, sounds like a cd. and 900 megs? come on, thats awsome! thats like 11 full trance raves! mini-disc's suck... anything mp3 related, is the way to go if you ask me. check out http://www.crutchfeld.com ..like i was saying, they have some sweet mp3/cd shit, real cheep! hope i was of some help. -Juno

i agree but not any mp3 cd player is good , if ur not going to buy rio volt 2 or iriver 2 then buy a minidisc

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Originally posted by DJ Juno mini-disks are no good in my opinion. too small, and they are not going to be around forever. better off getting an mp3/cd player. i doubt mp3's are going to die anytime soon. i have a sony mp3 player, and its nice. 128k isnt bad d00d, sounds like a cd. and 900 megs? come on, thats awsome! thats like 11 full trance raves! mini-disc's suck... anything mp3 related, is the way to go if you ask me. check out http://www.crutchfeld.com ..like i was saying, they have some sweet mp3/cd shit, real cheep! hope i was of some help. -Juno

Too small??? Thats a good thing, they are sturdy, small and now can hold upto 4 CD's worth of music. 192k is more like CD, 128 is pretty awful quality man, seriously

Listen we've always considered the Japanese and most of Asia as our guide to whats going to be big, and they have made mini disc bigger than portable CD ever was. Its in no danger of dissapearing, the Asian market has chosen mini disc over mp3 players.

minidisc has so many advantages over mp3 players, the only drawback that I can say is that it records over real time. So basicly I set up my winamp playlist, arrange tracks, then record onto my minidisc while im doing homework, sleeping, or just not using the computer.

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Too small??? Thats a good thing, they are sturdy, small and now can hold upto 4 CD's worth of music. 192k is more like CD, 128 is pretty awful quality man, seriously

I totally agree with you.

i think i posted something like this in a similar thread

i work with minidiscs every day here at the radio station, and in fact pretty much everything we do is on MD, so i consider myself to be quite knowledgable on the subject
i love it, and am planning on getting one soon, as i already have an mp3 player
the minidiscs are great for sound quality, they can be recorded an infinite number of times without any loss in sound quality
in fact i have a stack of discs here that i've used quite a lot in the past year and they still sound great
our production tape, that's our tape here at the station, i believe is only seven generations (records) before it's pretty much useless... the commercial quality tape sold in stores is made to last a bit longer
but i do most of my stuff on MD as it's cheaper and sounds great

i used to own a md player.. mzr70 some crap like that... but i want the Freecom Beatman Mp3 Player or just interested, do u know any online shops that sells it to america or has prices in USD? also you can check out www.dcs.com.hk i saw a old friend and he got a mzr900 for like well its 245 or something, i dont know problay cheaper than minidisco.com but then again the shipping, whihc problay shouldnt cost a lot.

check www.electronicsemall.com very cheap stuff. SHipping is also good.

If you are that bothered about realtime recording then you can get a minidisc drive for your PC and basically I think you can record a lot faster instead of real time, I'm considering getting one for my PC as you can also title the discs a lot easier.... hmmmm I feel that my credit card is going to get a hammering

This one is only 109$ (US) and it's both recorder/player

http://www.electronicsemall.com/mdporminplay.html

HEY!!! ou're getting there, Faast mp3! (maybe soon you should change your name into FASTDJMD!!!! )

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Originally posted by Eye-Riz HEY!!! ou're getting there, Faast mp3! (maybe soon you should change your name into FASTDJMD!!!! )

nooooooo i can't , i want to buy a turntable , then a vandit t-shirt , then a tranceaddict.com t-shirt , and then maybe minidisc

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3 This one is only 109$ (US) and it's both recorder/player http://www.electronicsemall.com/mdporminplay.html

oooh they have that one for 80 bucks at frys. DOn't know if you would know about them tho.

Check out
http://212.250.57.206/productspecs/...ntage=27&New=No
This is Sony's PC recorder, and it looks like(from the specs) that it supports MDLP..... ooooooh

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3 nooooooo i can't , i want to buy a turntable , then a vandit t-shirt , then a tranceaddict.com t-shirt , and then maybe minidisc

hahahhahahahhahah that sounds soooo funny..a vandit shirt..and tranceaddict.com shirt..heheh iwant a ta shirt too =[ i rather get massinova one that says fileundertrance..but...yeah massinova kinda sucks...i wish TA had shirts like them though... and if u get a vandit shirt..get xtra large..i'm like 5'11 i think and i got large and boy its tight on me..and i'm like 120lbs!!!! dang germans..i dont go for the TIGHT clothes look.

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Originally posted by dvd hahahhahahahhahah that sounds soooo funny..a vandit shirt..and tranceaddict.com shirt..heheh iwant a ta shirt too =[ i rather get massinova one that says fileundertrance..but...yeah massinova kinda sucks...i wish TA had shirts like them though... and if u get a vandit shirt..get xtra large..i'm like 5'11 i think and i got large and boy its tight on me..and i'm like 120lbs!!!! dang germans..i dont go for the TIGHT clothes look.

hehehe that's what i was telling to f0x , i think the german XXL is probably the local L . Oh man

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Originally posted by FASTDJMP3 hehehe that's what i was telling to f0x , i think the german XXL is probably the local L . Oh man

hhah yeah i want anothe rone hehehe

Tight looks? I thought that was something the Italian had a patent on!!!

Italians have a reputation for style, but i don't think they deserve it as much nowadays... anyway back to the point:

a year back i thought this through, and got an MD, sharp 831, equiv. of sony MZR 90 at the time. Now i wan't something smaller and lighter still so i'm getting the play only MZE 900 (have a look on sony.com) this is gorgeous player. I still think MP3 is not for me. 128mb means i can't even store 1 album (i use 320kbps = 170mb) if 128mb is good enough then there's no question about what's best - the new (not officially out in uk) Sony network walkman 10. at last sony solid state that can play MP3 not just ATRAC.

One of my problems w/ MP3 is what i get now will be obsolete in just 1 year. once you're able to get 512+ mb (2 year or so) in small size then i will buy.

I choose MD because i want ultra small portable with small cheap media. MD will be around for a while yet (till solid state is much better and bigger and cheaper)
Md has currently got some big advantages: Price (inc. media), compatibility (loads of people have MD's) and ability to record from anywhere.

Note Sony are releasing products that can record 4x dubbing. I think they have a mini system that can, and some seperates: LISSA range.
They also have links for PC to MD (dedicated w/ software) atm these aren't worth the money, but i think that next gen. link will enable you to record 4x from PC to sony md. (this will probably only apply to Seperates)

Atm i am building up a seperates systme (�350 or so per seperate) but i'll hold off the MD Deck till the new Sony replacment of MD940 comes out, hopefully future compatible w/ any future link to record from PC at faster than 1x.

I'll try and post some details of what's out there now that will let you do 4x recording to MD (and from what) later.

One thing: DO NOT USE MDLP. Only use MDLP2 if you have a v. long live set to record and can accept quality loss.

Also md 128kbps is better than MP3 128kbps, asumming you have same source. I personaly find that MD (which is ATRAC @ 256kbps) is better than MP3 320kbps on most music from CD source.

Sorry for going on like this but i'm just writing down what comes out of the hectic depths of my mind. and i don't have time to remove irrelivant etc stuff and make it all neat tidy and sensible.

p.s. i'll get MP3 cd once there's one thinner than 20mm.

Re: .................... MD is the way to go.........

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Originally posted by Thor blah blah blah... 2. MP3's sound quality is far more inferior than MD. MP3 compresses sound data in 1:10 destructive ratio which may result in the loss of sound quality (encoding at 128kb sampling rate or below). MD uses ATRAC technology to compress sound in 1:5 ratio by eliminating noises and inaudible frequencies, preserving the dept of sounds. MiniDisc can actually sound better than a CD. MP3 cannot. 3. The various existing MD equipments, along with the removable colorful discs and labels, be can be easily individualized to show different personal styles. MP3s uses non-removable media, hard to be personalized. blah blah blah...

Ok, 1) if you're going to be using the MD to listen to copies of your CDs or to copies of MP3s, it doesn't matter how good the sound quality on the MD can be, because it's still limited to the CD and/or MP3 that you originally got the copy from.

2) A VBR MP3 recorded via LAME --r3mix is considered "archival" quality - ie, virtually indistinguishable from the original source. Typically, an album encoded with --r3mix takes roughly 60 to 80 mb. of space, depending on the type/complexity of the music. Therefore, you can get roughly 10 full albums onto 1 80 minute CD. With a minidisc... you get what, 74 minutes at full quality? MP3 wins hands down.

3) As was mentioned before, the RioVolt line has upgradable firmware. Which means updates - so your player (in theory) won't be obsolete in 3 weeks.

4) And as to MP3s using non-removable media... we're talking about MP3 cd players. Blank CDs come in virtually every color. And they're CHEAP - unlike minidiscs. Nowadays, $20 can get you a spindle of 100 blanks.

Virtually the only reason that I can think of that you might want to choose MD is the fact that you can use them as recorders, which you can't for MP3 cd players. Some solid-state players will do it, but CD players won't. So if you want a really compact live recording device, go with a minidisc player. If you want tons of tunes to take with you wherever you go... go with the MP3 player.

And that's just my $0.02.

with a mp3 player, are you actually going to be listening to the 340 hours of music? And the battery life is far from the length of the disc. DO you want a huge hard disk that weighs 400g and doesn't even fit in you're pocket?

You can try the Philips Expanium portable MP3/CD Player, It comes with the cassette adaptor for car stereo cassette players and the AC Car Adaptor, It can play mp3s encoded from 32k to 320k Including VBR, When I first bought mines last year, It was about 199.99, Its probably a lot cheaper by now cause I bought it at Circuit City, I like MP3/CD players cause you can burn a cd that holds 700MB of mp3s and you would have like 70 something tracks to listen to which is roughly about 10 hours of music or burn a cd with like 5 or 6 live mix mp3s that would come up to 700MB or under on the CD to listen to the live sets.

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Originally posted by lMIlk with a mp3 player, are you actually going to be listening to the 340 hours of music? And the battery life is far from the length of the disc. DO you want a huge hard disk that weighs 400g and doesn't even fit in you're pocket?

My RioVolt has a battery live of approx. 15 hours. At high quality, a cd holds about 12 hours of MP3s. And as to 340 hours of music... well, it's about 12, and I usually stick in a cd full of trance singles or whatnot, and then put it on random playmode. It's like having a little personal radio station in my pocket, but the music doesn't suck.

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Originally posted by Trypsin My RioVolt has a battery live of approx. 15 hours. At high quality, a cd holds about 12 hours of MP3s. And as to 340 hours of music... well, it's about 12, and I usually stick in a cd full of trance singles or whatnot, and then put it on random playmode. It's like having a little personal radio station in my pocket, but the music doesn't suck.

Waaaaaaaaaaay to go , i have the rio volt and the battery life is aprooximatively 15 hours

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