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Posted by djshan on Oct-12-2004 18:58:

Re: little bit of *******ing about the Guv

quote:
Originally posted by malek
How come do I have to show up at 10:30pm at the Guv to save up 5$?!?!

If I knew it would be 5$ (even 10$), I would come back at 1am if not after.

So my real complaint is that no one really knew the price at the door. I was told I would pay 30$ with the "guest list" instead of 50$++, I don't think its normal for a club the size of the Guvernement.

and I won't say anything about not having a media access thing, bringing in a huge ass camera and be told not get on stage, wtf you think i brought this camera for?


next time you visit guv, contact me before you come down here. lol.


Posted by jdat on Oct-12-2004 19:01:

Re: Re: little bit of *******ing about the Guv

quote:
Originally posted by djshan
next time you visit guv, contact me before you come down here. lol.


I wanted to meet the twat but I dunno where the f he was

encule de malek! grosse salope s'est fait carrote a l'entre


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 19:21:

i was there on sunday, not Saturday...

ptite pute.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-12-2004 19:23:

Cover for the night was $40.00 @ the Door, the reduced cover is $30.00.

I've already posted the reduced on the event thread were the reduced was gonna be $30.00 - 35.00. I had a stronge feeling it was gonna be $30.00, but didn't want to be wrong about it.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-12-2004 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
at the sasha party tho we got this cool ticket thing that was supposed to be a suvenir just to get it taken away at the door. why even bother with that then?


Margs, they weren't suppose to be souvenirs at all. I didn't say that either. Those were invites / vip passes to help you get in and taken away once your entered.

If you really want them as souvenirs, I have some left over and I'll give you some for the next time I see you. (Just like Emery and Beh)

There was some confusion about the entrance for these passes. Many of my friends got warned about their shoes and what they are wearing. One of my friend got completely rejected and I got him in. Deluxe Lounge has such a strict dress code, so the head secuity allowed the ppl with the passes to cut infront of the line and enter through the Guv.

If there's any problems you occur, just ask the secuirty guys in the front, they will always help you out and provide you with the full info.

Secuirty at the GUV has changed a lot. They are a lot nicer then before. My other co worker and myself used to get hassled and also have to explain our position at the Club numerous times. Still they don't know me (since there's so many of them) now when they ask me ... they are really nice and polite, instead of being rude and etc. 99% of them don't realize I work there and even still have to repeat myself to them over and over again, even if I met them the week before. Trust me on this, they are a lot nicer to ppl.


Posted by Ortemy on Oct-12-2004 19:36:

Well the whole Guv thing gets me really annoyed, I try to minimize my visits to that place. Bouncers are just too much to handle for me.


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 19:40:

John, it says More at the door, not 40$.


Posted by Ortemy on Oct-12-2004 19:42:

Btw with all the ticketmaster charges i payed more than 40$. Could have payed at the door.


Posted by KA0S on Oct-12-2004 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Margs, they weren't suppose to be souvenirs at all. I didn't say that either. Those were invites / vip passes to help you get in and taken away once your entered.

If you really want them as souvenirs, I have some left over and I'll give you some for the next time I see you. (Just like Emery and Beh)

There was some confusion about the entrance for these passes. Many of my friends got warned about their shoes and what they are wearing. One of my friend got completely rejected and I got him in. Deluxe Lounge has such a strict dress code, so the head secuity allowed the ppl with the passes to cut infront of the line and enter through the Guv.

If there's any problems you occur, just ask the secuirty guys in the front, they will always help you out and provide you with the full info.

Secuirty at the GUV has changed a lot. They are a lot nicer then before. My other co worker and myself used to get hassled and also have to explain our position at the Club numerous times. Still they don't know me (since there's so many of them) now when they ask me ... they are really nice and polite, instead of being rude and etc. 99% of them don't realize I work there and even still have to repeat myself to them over and over again, even if I met them the week before. Trust me on this, they are a lot nicer to ppl.


I've never had a problem with any of the bouncers, or security there for any of the events I've been to. My only issue with Guvernment is, well more of an annoyance than anything. How come we can't keep our ticket stubs if they are going to scan them? We wanted to keep our stubs from events we attended, and the dude wouldn't let us. What's the deal with that!!?? I've never heard of that in my life..


Posted by E2EK1EL on Oct-12-2004 19:47:

Re: little bit of *******ing about the Guv

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I won't say anything about not having a media access thing, bringing in a huge ass camera and be told not get on stage, wtf you think i brought this camera for?


Emery and I have already told you about this ... you can't expect to get a media pass on such short noticed. Kaveh asked me weeks ago and after clearing it up with my managers it was cool and him and his friend was taken care of at the door.

It's insanely hard for me to get those media pass. Since the GUV 8yr was fri, sat & sun this year ... by the time we tried to get you a media pass at the club, we ran out.

The format they constructed for the stage for SAT & SUN, you really didn't need a media pass at all. Kaveh only took 3 pics of stage when IM was on (when it was restricted) and the rest of the time it was opened to the public and didn't need the pass for crowd shots.

There were so many ppl with pro cams and they didn't have media passes, b/c we ran out.


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 19:59:

John, the stage was closed when IM and most of Max Graham set.

When they opened it, there was at least three layers of people behind the booth.

I am not bitching at you, I know you do more than what you're supposed to please your hosts.

But how long am I supposed to tell in advance, a month? Its ridiculous, its a club, not a press conference. I drove over 500 Kms, brought in 3000$+ worth of equipment just to be told to fuck off by a bouncer near the stage.

There's something called common sense that seems to be lacking at this club.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 20:03:

What we need at clubs like guvernment is the regular line and VIP.

VIP means you pay $200 each and have a reserved table in the VIP area. Not the welfare gino "i cant afford to pay $10 to get in" line

Everyone else = normal cover

Freebies = only if you know someone. As in you REALLY know someone like a manager or the owner or the dj.


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 20:10:

yeah but man, that won't work.

clubs need promoters, so the only good way is the reduced list and guest list to reward them.

anyhow, the guv isn't the kind of club to have tables and sit with a bottle... take it to a lounge / supperclub.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 20:15:

sure it is... many clubs in europe and south america do it that way. Vegas and the US too.

Ibiza is all about the super expensive VIP tables at megaclubs.

Toronto is clubbing welfare capital. Everyone who owns a club here knows it. Many of the international Djs know it.

This is the only town in the world where the guest list line is routinely 5 times longer than the regular line.


Posted by discojoe on Oct-12-2004 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1

VIP means you pay $200 each and have a reserved table in the VIP area. Not the welfare gino "i cant afford to pay $10 to get in" line



Haha jeez well dont we have alot of money to throw around.


Posted by discojoe on Oct-12-2004 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by malek

clubs need promoters, so the only good way is the reduced list and guest list to reward them.



Iv always wondered why clubs actually need promoters.. i mean it doesnt make any sense to me that jfl gives louis reduced passes to shows like tiesto to sell when he could easily sell them online for a higher price. And I dont think promoters would come anywhere near the same reach that flyers and websites would. What are they actually good for?


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-12-2004 22:11:



with Guv .. it's always best to play things safe ..

ie.
- come early
- sign up for guestlist or media pass asap (the demand is always very high for these sorts of things)
- bring extra cash
- etc.

this place was notorious in the past for miscommunication. it's not a normal club, and it's not run like a normal club. i've been screwed in the past before and the only thing u can do is to take precautions.

it's unfortunate that these sorts of things happen, we do what we can to help accomodate everyone, but sometimes, regretfully things don't always go the way you plan them too.


Posted by The Highroller on Oct-12-2004 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I never had any troubles with barmen and barmaids, they're generally very cool.


Are you kidding? There is this one fucking prick at the Guv who every single time I go to him, he short changes me. And each time does, I make sure to catch his attention (after 10 minutes of him pretending that he doesn't hear me), get my change and leave him no tip. He makes sure to give me a lot of attitude when he gives me my change back.

I always tip bartenders but short changing people is just unacceptable.


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-12-2004 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
Iv always wondered why clubs actually need promoters.. i mean it doesnt make any sense to me that jfl gives louis reduced passes to shows like tiesto to sell when he could easily sell them online for a higher price. And I dont think promoters would come anywhere near the same reach that flyers and websites would. What are they actually good for?




sometimes promoting via. word of mouth can be more effective than conventional advertising. esp. if you want to target a certain audience that can't easily be reached.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
Haha jeez well dont we have alot of money to throw around.


Well then you get the regular line



Go to pacha in Argentina and see what happens when you ask for VIP. They will ask for $1000 pesos for the table for the night.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
Iv always wondered why clubs actually need promoters.. i mean it doesnt make any sense to me that jfl gives louis reduced passes to shows like tiesto to sell when he could easily sell them online for a higher price. And I dont think promoters would come anywhere near the same reach that flyers and websites would. What are they actually good for?


The original idea of promoters was to distribute fliers and get hype going on the street level. How they ever elevated to some sort of club star status is beyond me. Sadly now everybody and their mother expects guest list and Toronto clubs are forced to use it as a gimmick rather than the money maker it should be similar to the example i mentioned above. We have developed a culture of welfare "VIP" clubbers in Toronto. I wish clubs would step up and reverse this stupidity for their own good.

Promoters should have a very limited guest list or no guest list at all. If you want to give a discount as a promotion then the flier should say "$5 off with flier". Any self respecting and established club wouldnt even need to do this anyways. If you get a guy like tiesto in who you know is going to draw, promo is all you need. Discounts are not required.


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 22:29:

i was pissed off to come early because I was lured that they would charge crazy money later on. Which never happened.

I saved a big 5 bux.


and guest list should be named reduced list emery, its worthless.

I always get fucked over with the "guest" list in Toronto.

And the next time someone from Toronto asks for Guest list to Aria i'll him.



quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
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with Guv .. it's always best to play things safe ..

ie.
- come early
- sign up for guestlist or media pass asap (the demand is always very high for these sorts of things)
- bring extra cash
- etc.


Posted by malek on Oct-12-2004 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by discojoe
Iv always wondered why clubs actually need promoters.. i mean it doesnt make any sense to me that jfl gives louis reduced passes to shows like tiesto to sell when he could easily sell them online for a higher price. And I dont think promoters would come anywhere near the same reach that flyers and websites would. What are they actually good for?


oh trust me, reduced tickets for events like Tiesto are very very limited in numbers... (to the point where it pisses off promoters)

owners aren't stupid, these events sell by themselves.


Posted by monishb on Oct-12-2004 22:34:

Re: little bit of *******ing about the Guv

quote:
Originally posted by malek
How come do I have to show up at 10:30pm at the Guv to save up 5$?!?!

If I knew it would be 5$ (even 10$), I would come back at 1am if not after.

So my real complaint is that no one really knew the price at the door. I was told I would pay 30$ with the "guest list" instead of 50$++, I don't think its normal for a club the size of the Guvernement.

and I won't say anything about not having a media access thing, bringing in a huge ass camera and be told not get on stage, wtf you think i brought this camera for?


I share your pain malek i used to go through the whole routine myself to take pics in the past, but i think their managers are pissy and the fact even if everyone came up like that which many pricks do, when they drunk they dont want that happening.

Its a good thing i dont take that many pics anymore but i will when i come for tiesto to MTL on DEC 10th.

Most of the clubs in toronto are like that which i hate personally just to take a few pictures

either way its their stinking attitude they have.


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 22:35:

Anywhere else ive ever been they ban cameras at the door... be happy they allow it in Toronto


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