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no, dont get me wrong, i totally agree. naming it "Sensation" is more trouble than its worth, thus ive been thinking of "Fire and Ice", "Heaven and Hell", etc. no worries, i agree with u guys 100%, and i dont want legal problems with ID-T either, so im hoping the DJs i plan on booking can speak for themselves and draw a big crowd (which im sure they will) 
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| Originally posted by DJ Eco no, dont get me wrong, i totally agree. naming it "Sensation" is more trouble than its worth, thus ive been thinking of "Fire and Ice", "Heaven and Hell", etc. no worries, i agree with u guys 100%, and i dont want legal problems with ID-T either, so im hoping the DJs i plan on booking can speak for themselves and draw a big crowd (which im sure they will) |
nubby dj's
whoa.... idk what to say... thanx? for your concern...
...but, theres so much id like to correct u about in your statements. i am not throwing this party just to self promote myself, im not even doing it for the money to tell u the truth, im not booking a HUGE venue that i know that i cant fill. our budget isnt HUGE, but it is enough for what i have planned. im not throwing this party to prove to myself i can "play to a crowd". i have done clubs in Italy and i have had thousands of ppl dancing on a dancefloor to my beats (not to seem conceited, by any means). if the majority of ppl go to this event and leave not even remembering who that DJ Eco kid is, thats fine by me, i just hope that i can provide the right music and good vibes. im not booking a large scale club any way, and im not booking HUGE DJs like u mentiond: Carl Cox, Tiesto, or Armin. ive been to europe every year for several months, and i love the vibe there, the mixture of club and rave culture, and thats what i wanna bring here. im starting small, and with the help of 1 relatively well known DJ on the bill, i hope that that mix of club and rave culture can get going over here too. if it doesnt, then so be it, and if i dont get exposure from the event, thats the least of my worries. thank u very much for ur words and ur concern tho, i do appreciate it.
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| Originally posted by Remiks nubby dj's |
i didnt mean to cause trouble, ill have Silver Nrgy delete this post if its so troublesome to some of u guys...
Yeah here in TA they'll flame on you 
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| Originally posted by skytrancegirl hmmmmmm...glitter me and you already have perfect outfits for both of these events!  |
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| Originally posted by glittergirl |
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| Originally posted by Cobra Commander Yeah here in TA they'll flame on you |
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| Originally posted by kid nyce I'm not sure how much experience you have in throwing parties but becareful. If your party flops you'll have a nice sum to pay for these DJs. Like many big named DJs who have agencies, there are usually certain requirements they have regarding the night. I see specifically the examples you've shown seem to put you on the same card as them. If my hunch is correct you are trying to self-promote yourself as well. I'm not hating on that fact, do so, but I'm sure Roxy doesn't have their resident DJ open for Armin, Carlcox, Tiesto...etc. I think the falsehood lies in that. The dream of being on the same card as another high profile DJ isn't going to get you the recognition by being the sole party thrower. The logic is right and I understand what you are trying to accomplish but just know that the people on the other side, the booking agency, probably wouldn't spring for it. You want to bring big names to the city, you want to bring solid preformances, you need to have a stacked wallet to obtain the venue, the marketing tools, and the nightlife pull. Alot of large scale clubs, crobar, roxy, spirit, all have music coordinators who do the bookings and promotional copy. I'm simply trying to prevent you from digging yourself into a grave. But who knows, I don't know you nor do I know your budget. You don't want to bring O'Bir or DJ Montana here who is gonna cost you $3,000 for his night which is feasible before you consider the venue's cost, the marketing cost. There is alot of variables to having a nightlife event trust me I know...I've had my share of doing parties. Victor's parties are great for him, he has the spot the sound and the audience. Same with TFST, they have the Djs the venue and the following. Most people who aspire to throw a party is for themselves to be heard at a gig. Those are the people who want to play for an audience but hasn't gotten the chance to do it. By organizing your own party you need to seriously consider alot of things. Money is a BIG BIG factor, effort in your group to do the same, promotional copy and cost. Is this a 1 time bang for the buck gig? I have this feeling you aren't experienced in doing parties (i could be wrong) I have this feeling you are dying for exposure and a good way to get it is by throwing your own party(i could be wrong again) but before all of that, just know that throwing your own party isn't easy man...it's not easy to bring people in...me, TFST, and many other local parties out there know that. The key to having a party for your own promotion (you DJing your party) is to keep it small, cheap, and comfortable. Victor has done it quite successfully, we have accomplished our own as well, and many others like homegrown, and wickedliquid. Take my advice or not...I'm just looking out dude...there is no quick way to land a gig or make a buck. Gotta work for everything...I've seen it with my own eyes ... |
Re: Re: ***SENSATION NYC 2004***
Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985
What the hell does that mean? Moron...
o Werd my bad ! lol sorry about that guys i got this from another forum and i forgot to edit it! that comment wasnt targeted toward u guys just some people on nightclubvip.com/forum becuz a lot of them are teens as well as older but some of them can b ignorant towards the style.... bcuz they think their KTU HOUSe Music is the shyt ..
which i think is totally stupid bcuz that KTU crap is commercial, so yea this does not involve anyone on this site sorry about the confusion. PeaCe !
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| Originally posted by DanAX Couldn't agree more... |
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| Originally posted by ambs for a minute i thought i would be an id&t event.... all these wannabe sensation parties all over the place... and id&t is so money hungry, wouldn't surprise me if they started suing for using their concept without their permission lol |
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| Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 woah woah there !!.... lemme make this clear, this isnt gonna be an event as big as sensation obviously ! but we are borrowing there theme, its not gonna b a huge event its gonna b sort of an underground thing because my friend wants to try and bring the euro scene into NYC so i dont see anythin fuckin wrong with that! im from Europe myself which is also why im encouraging for people like U guys to go check it out. |
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| Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 woah woah there !!.... lemme make this clear, this isnt gonna be an event as big as sensation obviously ! but we are borrowing there theme, its not gonna b a huge event its gonna b sort of an underground thing because my friend wants to try and bring the euro scene into NYC so i dont see anythin fuckin wrong with that! im from Europe myself which is also why im encouraging for people like U guys to go check it out. |
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O MY FUCKIN GOD YO !! is this a fuckin trance forum or a fuckin hate forum!?!?? i mean seriously i come in here tryin to promote an event for u people to FUCKIN go to !!.... and then u throw this shyt back in my fuckin face thinkin im this ignorant kid who doesnt know what he's doin! first off if u were smart enough to read my fuckin posts like i said... im not promotin this for the fuckin lame ktu peoples. Newayz im too heated with this forum right now.... how old r u people 30,50 ...? it really seems that u guys r too into ur huge raves or huge clubbin expecting big named DJ's such as PVD,Ferry,Yoji B,AVB, to not want to show any kind of respect to some people who will try to bring u an event that might not even b so bad... all i gotta say is where the fuck is the PLUR?? where is the love !? and VLAD i dont know wtf ur problem is..? but obviously ur being real ignorant becuz some of the up and coming Dj's would like to get heard and recognized by the people which is why i'm promoting this! .To all the people on here that are cool, im sorry if i come off as an asshole or offend anyone, that was not my intention. so Laterz im out.
ID&T called and said they are sueing for $2.5 billion. 
dam... ppl gotta chill. btw, its not even called Sensation ne more and hasnt been for the past week and half, Silver didnt know about the change (which i decided to make last week) and posted this thread about the party, which will go on, not under the name of Sensation. i culd care less and im not madd at him for doing so, bc he had nothing but good intentions. no, this party isnt targeted toward KTU losers, its targeted against the whole KTU culture. i didnt mean for this party to become such a friggin piece of drama, jeez. if u love trance culture, then ull come, and as for u Vlad, IM me and ill send u all of my original traxx and sets, and u can judge for urself if its gunna be a KTU fest. PvD, Tiesto, Armin, and Ferry bring the Euro sound here, but they dont bring the Euro scene. idk if uve ever been to Europe, but obviously theres a difference between DJs bringing the Euro sound and the Euro scene, but im not gunna talk down to ya and explain it. if u all wanna hate on this party, go ahead, its ppl like u that makes the trance scene so weak, bc ur just so satisfied with the state at which everything is right now. YES, there are ppl that are doing things are being go getters, the TFST parties, the loft parties, some raves..... this is another one of those examples where a trance fan decides to get up off his ass, doing something, and throwing a party, something different than ur usualy trance DJ appearing at Avalon or such. the name has been changed from Sensation to something else which will be revealed after all the bookings are done and the venue is 100% ours. Silver didnt know about the change tho, and he had nothing but good intentions, and he promoted about it. so now, that everythings cleared up, u still wanna hate? trance is trance, regardless of whether its a Ferry @ Avalon party, or some1 in the local scene that wants to give back to the scene, in hopes of maybe getting other ppl to get up off their asses and realize that NYC shouldnt be all about house house house house house in every fucking club. w.e. tho, im gunna stop here, no need to get riled up, i explained everything.
Just a reality check, any genre other than House will not get big and get recognition in NYC, unless you are already some superstar DJ. Victor Dinaire, hands down the best NYC trance DJ, moved to LA because of it.
Right now, IMHO, Alex Pearce is gonna start gaining ground in NYC - hes an awesome house DJ.
The scene in the US will never be equivalent to what goes on in Europe, its just a completely different society and mindset.
thats ur opinion tho.... u view the "situation" as, NYC will never be this, bc its a different society, or w.e. i see it as, MOST NYC clubbers dont know about good trance, theyre so ignorant to whats good and whats new. most NYC DJs are living in the past. look how many "ANTHEMS" CDs there are (that get to number 1 on the clubbing charts in the US), just look how many Classics @ Spirit or SF Jonathan Peters has had (i dont like him at all, im just proving a point). most of the "traditional" DJs here in NYC (the ones that have been here, and will still be here for a few years at least.... DT, JP, etc.) will always look at the past, and not look at the future. they will say exactly what u are saying, "NYC will never change its ways to like nething but house", and theyll keep playing the same stuf theyve been playing for years. are there any trance monthlies here in NYC? if i hadnt joined TA, i wouldnt know about TFST @ Seho, which i have never been to. try promoting it to ppl outside of ur group, try promoting it on a KTU site, it just mite catch ppls attention, and trance just mite catch on. i havent seen TFST parties advertised newhere but here, sry to say. so how bout ppl start looking OUTSIDE of the box, instead of being elitists and staying within the "caste" ur in.... and SO WHAT, if we draw a KTU crowd, SO WHAT, if we draw a raver crowd, the music will be TRUE to the trance culture, and who knows, those KTU dudes and those ravers mite go back home thinking to themselves "wow, that party was awesome, what was that music?" and there ya go, u got 2 different mindsets of clubbers that will be at ur next event, and WILL bring friends too. thats why u see raver types and clubber types all in harmony at the Euro parties and festies, theyre not elitists, theyre true to the music, no matter who they think they "fit in" with. but, what do i know? i only have like 100 posts on this site, so that must mean i dont know what im talking about and for the record, im not bashing TFST or its promotion methods, i was just commenting on how ive never heard of Club Seho, nor have i heard of those parties ne where else but here.
There have been trance monthlies, and the clubs that housed them all shut down, most notably Arc.
NYC wont change, people here are too stubborn and dont want to accept change - they like it as it is.
sad but tru, ur rite with that one.... "they like it as it is"... i agree... ill just end it here, then, no need to keep going on with it
Hey DJ Eco
whats up I was wondering what date you might be throwning down a this event you have planned. I might find myself down in NY with some D.C./VA TA's
the White party will be December 18th and the Black party is January 8th. we woulda had them one week after the other, but the week after Dec. 18th is Xmas, and the week after Xmas is New Years (and most ppl wil wanna be @ PvD @ Ikon), so January 8th will have to do as the 2nd installment of the party.
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