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Originally posted by amdmaxx Future of DJing = DVD-Audio and Super-Audio CDs...

100% agree with this. DVD-Audio and Super-Audio CDs offer much superior sound quality. Each synth line and SFX would be crystal clear on a high end sound system. Add to this DTS or Dolby Digital high fidelity surround sound and you are in ecstacy...

I have always wondered how listening to trance in surround sound would be? Imagine all the crystal clear sound effects coming in from different directions coupled with spectacular light and laser show in a night club.

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Originally posted by P:T:X I have always wondered how listening to trance in surround sound would be? Imagine all the crystal clear sound effects coming in from different directions coupled with spectacular light and laser show in a night club.

Wow would be trippin

dvd a/sacd etc still doesnt sound as good as vinyl... Argue all you like- thats a technical fact.

You mention surround sound:
99.9% of club systems are run in mono........ so that kind of pisses on that idea

yeah provided the vinyl is clean and you are using a good pickup + stylus.

no not at all

Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform.
It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range.
Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.

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Originally posted by Freak no not at all Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform. It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range. Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.

Yea, but don't forget.... most edm is created through digital sources of samples. these have already undergone sample rate changes and so forth. in essence, an electronic vinyl is probably at the same rate as any digital media because it is the exact same thing. It comes from a computer.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. Yea, but don't forget.... most edm is created through digital sources of samples. these have already undergone sample rate changes and so forth. in essence, an electronic vinyl is probably at the same rate as any digital media because it is the exact same thing. It comes from a computer.

Well said.. now if vinyl were playing back say, classical music using a varied range of musical instruments, then that wider range would make quite the difference.

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Originally posted by Freak no not at all Even with the most basic/cheapest stylus, music from a vinyl source is being produced via a pure unbroken waveform. It is also not restricted by sample or bit rate- it is not partitioned at all, and has an infinitely wide frequency and transient range. Neither of these are affected by the stylus or how clean the record is.

even though the record may have a pure unbroken waveform a cheap stylus wont follow it exactly, digital music can easily follow the waveform more accurately than a cheap stylus. Generally records are restricted by sample and bitrates because nowdays almost all music is recorded digitally anyway (i cant remember what the studio standard is off the top of my head, can anyone else?), and records dont have an infinitely wide frequency range, physics just dosent allow this

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Originally posted by Nic i cant remember what the studio standard is off the top of my head, can anyone else?

44.1kHz, or 48kHz
(yes i have a degree in this gubbins- i know what im on about)

havent they started recording new stuff at something like 96khz

i'm still working on my degree

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Originally posted by Freak 44.1kHz, or 48kHz (yes i have a degree in this gubbins- i know what im on about)

It's been 48 for a few years now. A lot of the mixers like Mackie's d8b only went up to 48 but now with the new mixing boards, at 96 and even 192, that number will soon change.

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Originally posted by Freak You mention surround sound: 99.9% of club systems are run in mono........ so that kind of pisses on that idea

I guess the club who designs a surround sound system would get a lot of business.

is it still 24 bit? or has that number gone up too?

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Originally posted by Scottaculous I guess the club who designs a surround sound system would get a lot of business.

The main reason most clubs are mono... you want the same sound experience regardless of where you are. Say you're at one corner of the club where you'll hear most of the right channel, but the left channel is hardly hearable or very muffled due to the distance or sound acoustics. Now have a song thats got a vocal moving from left to right channel, and back constantly, and the result for those people in that corner won't be good.

It's very hard or near impossible to get similar sound acoustics in every area of the dancefloor, so that's why it's mainly mono.

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Originally posted by Nic is it still 24 bit? or has that number gone up too?

Still 24 as far as I know is still the standard. 32 bit is out but only the most decked out studios find practical application for it.

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