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Originally posted by Passiva That is so true! I know this myself, because I've switched from Reason to Cubase last week..

Tell me about it, did that switch a year ago or even more

Why would anyone be that lazy to use cubases's eq. It has to be one of the worst eqs i ever tried. There are so many better eqs out there, like equim, the voxengo glisseq, sonalksis, psp masterq, etc.. that completly destroy that shitty eq in cubase. You want good built in effects, cubase isnt the way, try sampltitude, logic or sonar, the built in effects are actually useable.

Oh yeah and Reason sucks , I'm with Alanzo on that one.

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Why would anyone be that lazy to use cubases's eq. It has to be one of the worst eqs i ever tried. There are so many better eqs out there, like equim, the voxengo glisseq, sonalksis, psp masterq, etc.. that completly destroy that shitty eq in cubase. You want good built in effects, cubase isnt the way, try sampltitude, logic or sonar, the built in effects are actually useable. Oh yeah and Reason sucks , I'm with Alanzo on that one.

That is just a matter of taste, don't you think?

ill post a sample of the j and c track later today.

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Originally posted by MatthewAdams no offence but those screenshots just proove that you, as a reason user, need more FX Units than Fruity/Cowbase producers to get half-decent sound

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Why would anyone be that lazy to use cubases's eq. It has to be one of the worst eqs i ever tried. There are so many better eqs out there, like equim, the voxengo glisseq, sonalksis, psp masterq, etc.. that completly destroy that shitty eq in cubase. You want good built in effects, cubase isnt the way, try sampltitude, logic or sonar, the built in effects are actually useable. Oh yeah and Reason sucks , I'm with Alanzo on that one.

all the eq's you mentioned are for mastering you wouldnt use them on every channel..... cept equim......

fost i use my hardware to i was just rush with time to get this track done so i used reason because i can achive the same amount of sound.

anyways i use "cowbase" to :P

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Originally posted by fr0st all the eq's you mentioned are for mastering you wouldnt use them on every channel..... cept equim......

Nothing forbids you to use them on channels. There's no right and wrong here, especially with EQ.

gimme a second.. got to putt 40 subtractors, 120 random fx modules, 4 mixers, 9 rex's, 18 matrix's and 8 redrums in a rack and make a screenshot..

i'll putt the screenshot online in a minute..

hahah

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Originally posted by fr0st all the eq's you mentioned are for mastering you wouldnt use them on every channel..... cept equim......

wurd..I'm proud to say: YES, I USE CUBASE SX INTEGRATED EQUALIZERS
what about them? its not for finetuning a single Hz, like a barber is cutting a single hair off your head

fools

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Originally posted by MatthewAdams wurd..I'm proud to say: YES, I USE CUBASE SX INTEGRATED EQUALIZERS what about them? its not for finetuning a single Hz, like a barber is cutting a single hair off your head fools

LOL! I'm also a proud user of the inbuild EQs!! Way to go Matthew

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all the eq's you mentioned are for mastering you wouldnt use them on every channel..... cept equim......

Are you serious???? I must of missed the "only for mastering warning on the back of the eq gui"


Some eqs work better than others on single channels. You can use any of the ones mentioned, though some may add some coloring like the sonalksis but in a good way. Transparent eqs are recommended for surgical eqing but there is no rule that says you have to use them. I actually like what psp master q does to my highs and glisseq for low end boosts is magic. If it sounds good, it's good.

The latency and cpu load those eq's introduce is silly to use on a individual channel... You obviously are new to production and just downloaded the most expensive things you could get your grubby little hands on. Sure they sound phenomenal but you do not want to add such charecter to each and every channel you proccess. For the most part you want a transparent EQ to boost subtle frequencies. Then when it comes time to master you mix you want to give it a warm analog EQ effect....The cubase built in EQ, the logic channel eq, and the ren EQ from waves are the work horse EQ's while the majority of the ones you mentioned are more or less effects.... Back on topic.. I agree alot its about what you make not what you use to make it. And if he can use reason to achieve everything more power to him. I have heard some amazing stuff come from reason I just find the ableton live + logic is my platform of choice...

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Are you serious???? I must of missed the "only for mastering warning on the back of the eq gui" Some eqs work better than others on single channels. You can use any of the ones mentioned, though some may add some coloring like the sonalksis but in a good way. Transparent eqs are recommended for surgical eqing but there is no rule that says you have to use them. I actually like what psp master q does to my highs and glisseq for low end boosts is magic. If it sounds good, it's good.

you are contradicting your self... If it sounds good it sounds good... You are the one who slated someone for using the cubase eq not me... Im just saying its more practical...

kk here u go the sample of eclipse like i promised
Johnson and corbett - Eclipse

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Originally posted by DJ-Igloo kk here u go the sample of eclipse like i promised Johnson and corbett - Eclipse

meh... all those layers dont seem to be doing more than 1/4 of them could..

plus it's hard to distinguish between them with all the distortion this track has..

just showing my project file at the moment thats all

Wish i had a good pc so i could work with cubase as well.

Ya know what this actually is a good idea to post screen shots of what we are working on soo other people can get a concept of what the screen generally should look like....

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Originally posted by MatthewAdams no offence but those screenshots just proove that you, as a reason user, need more FX Units than Fruity/Cowbase producers to get half-decent sound

lol exactly y i dont use reason. Too much layering
Im pleased with Cubase and my VirusC

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The latency and cpu load those eq's introduce is silly to use on a individual channel... You obviously are new to production and just downloaded the most expensive things you could get your grubby little hands on. Sure they sound phenomenal but you do not want to add such charecter to each and every channel you proccess. For the most part you want a transparent EQ to boost subtle frequencies. Then when it comes time to master you mix you want to give it a warm analog EQ effect....The cubase built in EQ, the logic channel eq, and the ren EQ from waves are the work horse EQ's while the majority of the ones you mentioned are more or less effects.... Back on topic.. I agree alot its about what you make not what you use to make it. And if he can use reason to achieve everything more power to him. I have heard some amazing stuff come from reason I just find the ableton live + logic is my platform of choice...

Silly? No not silly, smarty. I have a Athlon 3200+ with a uad and powercore pci card, and emu1212m onboard dsp effects (all in all it equals to around 6ghz of power), this system doesnt even budge if i add 10 sonalksis eqs. You obviously don't know anything about equalization. Sonalksis , psp master Q for example upsample and this in turn reduces aliasing artifacts, and also allow you do do more in terms of radical boosting or cutting. I know for a fact many engineers who use the eqs i mentioned on single tracks, guys who remix big name hip hop artists, rock bands, etc... The pultec eq on my uad is the best freakin eq ever, but it does add some color to the sound in a good way. You know how many artists put them on individual tracks to boosts lows and add high end presence. Alot! I'm no amateur and I know what i'm talking about. Sure you can get results with cubases eq, you can get results with reason as corbitt just proved to us. But why suffer using shitty eqs when there are better ones out there that will make your mixes sound more professional and not like a c64.

The Track has some good melodies and the arrangment is there, but it suffers from terrible distortion, lousy effects (especially the reverb which makes it soound like i'm listening to the track in the bathroom at a rave) and the kick seems to fluctuate, probably due to over compression. You have a wicked studio, do yourself a favor, toss reason and use a dedicated host , reason was fun 2 years ago, now it's just overstayed its visit. recycle bin time

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Originally posted by DJ-Igloo kk here u go the sample of eclipse like i promised Johnson and corbett - Eclipse

not another cheese factory

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Silly? No not silly, smarty. I have a Athlon 3200+ with a uad and powercore pci card, and emu1212m onboard dsp effects (all in all it equals to around 6ghz of power), this system doesnt even budge if i add 10 sonalksis eqs. You obviously don't know anything about equalization. Sonalksis , psp master Q for example upsample and this in turn reduces aliasing artifacts, and also allow you do do more in terms of radical boosting or cutting. I know for a fact many engineers who use the eqs i mentioned on single tracks, guys who remix big name hip hop artists, rock bands, etc... The pultec eq on my uad is the best freakin eq ever, but it does add some color to the sound in a good way. You know how many artists put them on individual tracks to boosts lows and add high end presence. Alot! I'm no amateur and I know what i'm talking about. Sure you can get results with cubases eq, you can get results with reason as corbitt just proved to us. But why suffer using shitty eqs when there are better ones out there that will make your mixes sound more professional and not like a c64.

you mentioned native plugins not dsp plugins as far as the UAD goes I prefer the cambridge eq it all comes down to preference if you can get good sounds out of one thing why switch....

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