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Originally posted by Mugenlude99 So what do you have against armin?

i think hes shite

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Originally posted by Laushinameee i think hes shite

*shit

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Originally posted by Mugenlude99 *shit

no, shite.

No offence but you're american, dont correct my spelling.

One of the best comps out there... some classics for sure!

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Originally posted by nrjizer Art of Trance - Kaleidoscope

I checked this track out based on a previous recommendation by you... and I thought it sucked hardcore, sounded like something I could've knocked out on fruityloops in a day back when I first started using it. I'm not much of a fan of ASOT/Anjuna trance at all but would take it over that I'm afraid.

Not saying all old trance sucks, but that tune... horrid example

I'll check out those other recs sometime

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no, shite. No offence but you're american, dont correct my spelling.

You tell em!

shite shite shite

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no, shite. No offence but you're american, dont correct my spelling.

My mother is british, i was raised in Mitchem, Surrey. thank God i got out that hell hole though

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Originally posted by isoterra You tell em! shite shite shite

Oh you crazy little brits, soo cute

The thing about tranceport is, it's nothing more than a collection of the biggest tracks of the day. Everyone hails it, and Oakenfold, like it was the pinnacle of EDM. In reality, it's just a compilation CD that was loosely mixed in ProTools. It's no different than one of those "Clubbers Guide to Ibiza 200x" or Ministry of Sound CDs that come out every year, helping to remind us all of the big tunes we were blasting the previous summer.

That doesn't mean that some of the songs on there aren't good. As a compilation CD, it's not that bad. As a mix CD, it's terrible. The songs carry themselves - each track feels separated from the next. There's no flow at all In a good mix CD, the songs will fit together as if they were made to do so. The whole mix will sound like one giant song - and that's exactly what Tranceport does not do, or even comes close to doing.

My first introduction to EDM was tranceport, when I borrowed a burned CD from a friend with some programs on it, that also happened to have Tranceport. I had heard him playing EDM before and thought it was cool, so I decided to check it (tranceport) out. The first track I put on was Words, and it blew me away. I had no idea that music like that existed. Other tracks I thought were cool, and others I found boring, but that's not the point here.

I was a complete electronica noob. I had no idea how it was made, or performed. I had no idea that DJs were anything more than voices on the radio or guys who did scratching. And I thought Tranceport was an artist album, with individual tracks. It took me a week or two of listening to it before I realized that the beginning and ends of the tracks sounded sorta similar, and managed to figure out the order. Even then, all I did was keep playing Rendenvous, Purple and Words. I'd listen to the individual tracks then be on my way.

Shortly after that, I began to raid my friends FTP for all the electronica he had. One of the first things I got was the Best of Platipus 2x mix CD. I'm listening to it now as I type this. It was the first time I was ever able to just sit back and listen, and get lost in the music. It sounded to me like one giant song, which is pretty much what it was. And remember, I was a compete noob back then, but I still saw the difference instantly.

This is how a mix CD is supposed to sound. This how trance is supposed to sound. It's supposed to be entrancing. A few of the tracks on Tranceport were entrancing, but most weren't. And thats why it's overrated.

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Originally posted by isoterra I checked this track out based on a previous recommendation by you... and I thought it sucked hardcore, sounded like something I could've knocked out on fruityloops in a day back when I first started using it. I'm not much of a fan of ASOT/Anjuna trance at all but would take it over that I'm afraid. Not saying all old trance sucks, but that tune... horrid example I'll check out those other recs sometime

If it could be knocked out in a day in fruityloops, then how come it still sounds so much better than 99% of trance music that is produced today? And how come copycat tracks aren't a dime a dozen?

And why is simplicity to be looked down upon? Is there some sort of elitist snob thing going on, where a complicated song full of effects and washes and other tricks is immediately more interesting than one without them? They didn't have fancy software packages and other shit back when Kaleidoscope was made. This is pure and simple music. And it still sounds way, way, way more interesting than stuff produced today.

If you want a better example, get Red Herring. It's made by the same guy (with a partner under that moniker). Listen to how complex it sounds, then compare it with one of the dime a dozen trance tracks coming out today. Red Herring is TEN years old.

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Originally posted by nrjizer This is how a mix CD is supposed to sound. This how trance is supposed to sound. It's supposed to be entrancing.

hahaha...this coming from someone who lives in Georgia. Isn't Georgia supposed to be full of hicks.

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Originally posted by hooj1 hahaha...this coming from someone who lives in Georgia. Isn't Georgia supposed to be full of hicks.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no, shite. No offence but you're american, dont correct my spelling.

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Originally posted by hooj1 hahaha...this coming from someone who lives in Georgia. Isn't Georgia supposed to be full of hicks.

He can make no logical argument against mine, so he resorts to attacking a stereotype. Hilarious.

You rock, nrjizer. The tracks these days may have clever effects by the dozen, but they have no soul. Give me Two Full Moons and a Trout any day.

Whatever.....

Whether you compare Tranceport to Oakey's first GU's or to MWNNN, or whether you compare it to complete gay crap like the Backstreet Boys, it still is a great CD. Great tracks, great track selection, blah blah blah blah. And for whoever said that the tracks carrying themselves is a negative - get your head outta your pompous ass! A good CD is a good CD. I don't give a shit about who made it or how it was made. If it sounds good then it sounds good - that's all I care about. I don't care whether he just used a fade in/out button, or whether he had to completely re-engineer the tracks to make them sound the way they are - the CD sounds great the way it is. If you or any professional DJ out there think that ya'll can make it sound better, go right ahead! I would LOVE to give it a listen. Till then, just get off the Oakey-bashing bandwagon and give it a rest, at least for this one, awright? You think Tranceport sucked because you can name ONE Platipus record which sounded better?!? C'mon!! This CD sounded great in '98, it sounded great in '99......and it sounds great even now. But if you're too 'cool' to say this was a good CD just because it went 'mainstream' (for that time), then it's not the CD that has problems with it, but you.

Ok, now you can go ahead and flame.

^^^ word (to TwoPlow)

Btw, make sure you get the right version of Kaleidoscope. On the Platipus website, the original mix (has a sample) is labeled as the Sunday Club mix on my best of Platipus album, and the mp3 of Kaleidoscope I have is shown on the website as the Sunday Club mix.

I dont know if its the CD or the website that's messed up, but either way, go to www.platipus.com, go to Singles > 1997, and listen to the sample of the Sunday Club mix of Kaleidoscope, that's the one I love so much.

Oh yeah, Trout rocks, I forgot about that one (man I forgot about a lot of these, all this arguing is bringing back memories). Oh yeah and don't forget Cactus.

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Originally posted by Buddhistics Whether you compare Tranceport to Oakey's first GU's or to MWNNN, or whether you compare it to complete gay crap like the Backstreet Boys, it still is a great CD. Great tracks, great track selection, blah blah blah blah. And for whoever said that the tracks carrying themselves is a negative - get your head outta your pompous ass! A good CD is a good CD. I don't give a shit about who made it or how it was made. If it sounds good then it sounds good - that's all I care about. I don't care whether he just used a fade in/out button, or whether he had to completely re-engineer the tracks to make them sound the way they are - the CD sounds great the way it is. If you or any professional DJ out there think that ya'll can make it sound better, go right ahead! I would LOVE to give it a listen. Till then, just get off the Oakey-bashing bandwagon and give it a rest, at least for this one, awright? You think Tranceport sucked because you can name ONE Platipus record which sounded better?!? C'mon!! This CD sounded great in '98, it sounded great in '99......and it sounds great even now. But if you're too 'cool' to say this was a good CD just because it went 'mainstream' (for that time), then it's not the CD that has problems with it, but you. Ok, now you can go ahead and flame.

Read what I said. As a CD, Tranceport ain't bad. Rendenvous, Words and Purple (and that first track, whatever its name was) will always have a special place in my heart. The rest of the tracks I don't really care for, but that's just my honest personal opinion. But as a DJ mix it sucks. The reason Tranceport gets on my nerves is because Oakenfold keeps getting all sorts of praise and credit for it when he hardly did anything at all. It's his name on the cover, it's his name in the ID3 tags (I used to think Oakenfold made each of those tracks, because I didn't know better, and so did a lot of people), it's him getting all the praise. He is a DJ getting praise for a compilation album. There's no flow at all. I can't just put this on, sit back and get lost in it, because all the tracks sound separate. Not that it's a big deal, I listen to artist CDs all the time, but it just annoys me that it's always Oakie getting all the praise for this CD.

I know I cite Platipus alot, but thats because I grew up listening to their stuff, and I honestly don't know many other places to find good, classic trance. But the examples still stand. And there's a lot of tunes on that label that rock any track on Tranceport, even the ones I like.

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Originally posted by nrjizer and I honestly don't know many other places to find good, classic trance. .

Harthouse
Eye-Q
MFS

thx

hell, all of these threads today about classic trance and techno gave me some excellent recomendations, much apreciated people

First CD I ever bought and is still one of my top 5 choices of all time.

Travelling is better.

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Originally posted by TwoPlow You rock, nrjizer. The tracks these days may have clever effects by the dozen, but they have no soul. Give me Two Full Moons and a Trout any day.

Casper Pound baby

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