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Originally posted by nach I loved the originals. Rock the west side is AWSOme and so was the original of crush. Mind you the pvd mixes were better but the same can be said for many tracks that have gotten the pvd treatment.

OMFG
were can i hear Rock the Westside??

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Originally posted by BrownTA4Life OMFG were can i hear Rock the Westside??

g-i-m-p

rock the west side isn't that great

but to some people it is


oh and BTW

back down is the CLUB MIX version

we have yet to hear the original

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 All paul ever did to empire was straiten the "fx/melody" after the break.

you must be deaf then he did a full remix, kick drum / bassline all the same as the TPOD club attack remix. The original of empire was only ever heard once (GCSSS 01 essential mix) and it sounds really really bad there, proper weak & really poor structure.

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Originally posted by nach I loved the originals.

This isnt what i asked.

I said can you honestly say crush/ empire/ rock the west side etc etc are well produced ?? The answer has to be no. Even PvD himself thinks so, he says that second sun's production is 'very much in the bedroom style' but their ideas are sometimes good.

HOLD UP! PEOPLE!!!

First of all as a label owner allow me to say a couple of things in reguards to Second Sun. Laushinameee you have no Idea what you are talking about AT ALL so you input is pointless. Second Sun obviously has talent, along side tight production or PVD wouldn't have even listened past the 30 secound point of the original. And might I add if you think you can drop a Bomb like Empire, Crush, or the Spell, on the Trance music scene and sell even one tenth the amount of copies they sold, then i will sign you to Terratraxx myself. here is my email and here is your chance to put all of you knowledge of good trance to the test. Until then no-one gives a shit about how much you obviously hate trance altogether. Find another board to post on like mine at www.terratraxx.com. hope to here from you.

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Originally posted by aterratraxx HOLD UP! PEOPLE!!! First of all as a label owner allow me to say a couple of things in reguards to Second Sun. Laushinameee you have no Idea what you are talking about AT ALL so you input is pointless. Second Sun obviously has talent, along side tight production or PVD wouldn't have even listened past the 30 secound point of the original.

you cluless div.

PvD says and this is a quote - I got this demo (of Empire) and the production was very much in the bedroom style.

You cant argue with that, thats a fact and its straight from PvD himself. So please dont go running your mouth off mr big label owner unless you actually know anything about the situation. Which you clearly dont.

thanks

do you produce?

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Originally posted by aterratraxx do you produce?

why do you want to know?

I would like to hear your stuff!

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Originally posted by aterratraxx I would like to hear your stuff!

Well unfortunately for you there is nothing to hear at the moment. I'll be sure to drop anything off with terratraxx though should the situation arise.

Well, when your ready to step up with your production, I want to be the first to hear it. For sure. Thanks for the advice about posting public forums. Just so you know MARCO V has dubbed the HP mix one of his top three tunes. But let me guess he is a shitty dj too. right?

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Originally posted by aterratraxx Well, when your ready to step up with your production, I want to be the first to hear it. For sure. Thanks for the advice about posting public forums. Just so you know MARCO V has dubbed the HP mix one of his top three tunes. But let me guess he is a shitty dj too. right?

I am not a fan of Marco V that is correct.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee you cluless div. PvD says and this is a quote - I got this demo (of Empire) and the production was very much in the bedroom style. You cant argue with that, thats a fact and its straight from PvD himself. So please dont go running your mouth off mr big label owner unless you actually know anything about the situation. Which you clearly dont. thanks

hi, sorry to all who hate archive bump ups, but I've grown to be a huge fan of second sun

anyways, the reason why it was considered "bedroom" style was that second sun was barely starting out in the edm scene. Their equipment was completely aged and limited. And so, from what I have read, pvd sent Second Sun some new equipment to help them out in future productions. It's not that second sun didn't have the talent or knowledge to produce a quality track, it's just that it was impossible for them to do so with their technology.

so yeah, i guess your own words backfired on you. Do some more digging before taking on the discussion.

and also, the kick drum was replaced in the tpod mix

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Originally posted by Laushinameee you cluless div. PvD says and this is a quote - I got this demo (of Empire) and the production was very much in the bedroom style. You cant argue with that, thats a fact and its straight from PvD himself. So please dont go running your mouth off mr big label owner unless you actually know anything about the situation. Which you clearly dont. thanks

It's clear that Laushinamee is the one who's confused here and very arrogant, read the old posts and you'll see what I mean. There will always be a couple of real assholes like this person on TA forums who claim to be the only one right and the rest of the other TA members are wrong. Secon Sun is talented without a doubt and this person is criticising them based on a statement PVD made, OMG how lame is that. Second Sun and Nu Nrg have dropped many great tunes and have contributed a lot to EDM. Who the hell do you think you are, your just another critic trying to give a bad name to well known talented producers. What original production have you made that world famous dj's played on their sets, let me answer that for you....NONE. If your still an active TA member please do yourself a favor and lower your Ego and think before you post. It's idiot like you that ruin TA forums.

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Originally posted by Dj Havoc It's idiot like you that ruin TA forums.

I digress ... it's clueless fuckwits like yourself that jump onto arguements almost a year later to flame people that really make TA the shit-tip that it is.

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Originally posted by thesuperfunk I digress ... it's clueless fuckwits like yourself that jump onto arguements almost a year later to flame people that really make TA the shit-tip that it is.

Wow, slow down whats with the hostility. I was simply adding my comment and notice in the thread I posted "If you are still an active member", I was saying that because Nu Nrg can still tear up a dancefloor and have dropped so many bombs during their career and to call them shit based on one statement Paul Van Dyke made didn't make much sense to me [PVD hasn't been impressing me lately regardless]. If PVD told you not to like a certain producer that you were a supporter of, Would you listen? I'm not the one who searched and brought back this old thread and why are you labeling me a clueless Fu**wit. Are you having a bad day or something, take it out on some one elese. Continue this, and I promise you will be BANNED. Don't do it to yourself.

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Originally posted by Dj Havoc Continue this, and I promise you will be BANNED. Don't do it to yourself.

Shut up you irrelevant prick. You're posts have all been shit since you got here.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Shut up you irrelevant prick. You're posts have all been shit since you got here.

I'm not going to say anything or going to lower myself to a childish level. If you want to keep insulting me because I'm a new TA member go ahead, I hope it makes you feel special.

Meh.

You UK boys need to take a chill pill.

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