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Posted by Member of X on Nov-10-2004 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by mb2004
Avalon doesn't seem to be highly looked upon. I'm visting NY nov. 18th to 21st and plan on hit Crobar 19th for glaude/doc night and saturday 20th looks like avalon for carola and smith. Now drugged up scummy people don't bother me much (got plenty of them in Chicago, but I'm trying to figure out if that's all that wrong with the place. All I care about is good music (carola and smith should provide), sound quality not being crap, a place to put my ass every now and then, not to much of a hassle for "indulgence", and slightly liberal dress code. Drugged up morons are everywhere. Good music is harder to find.


Once I've seen a DJ 3-4 times, the crowd gets a little more important. It only matters when those drugged out scummy people are bumping into you again and again all wigging out. Or just being complete A holes. For a really good DJ, the setup is wack. It gets so packed it gets unbearably hot and then you got these wacked out people to deal with instead of enjoying the music.

It really does depend upon the DJ though. DJ's like Ferry Corsten bring a little more people who enjoy EDM and behave themselves somewhat rationally. Party hard..... just don't get up in my business too.


Posted by glittergirl on Nov-10-2004 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
when was avalon in nyc ever a good club? am i missing something???


when it was limelight.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Nov-10-2004 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by glittergirl
when it was limelight.


i heard it wasnt great back then either...


Posted by mb2004 on Nov-10-2004 23:01:

Crowd doesn't matter much to me. As long as there is one and it's not wall to wall packed. I'm fine.

On to Crobar. Best I can get from my friend there is that I should plan on pretty much either dancing or standing. If I want to sit. I'm gonna pay to do it. I've seen Glaude plenty of times and doc Marten was kinda boring last I heard (which is way back), but only other choice for friday is back to Avalon for Marco V. Which scummy and techno go well together. Scummy and trance don't.


Posted by glittergirl on Nov-10-2004 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
i heard it wasnt great back then either...


personally limelight used to be one of my absolute favorite clubs.
avalon is now the one i probably hate the most. its amazing how much can change with a name....


Posted by Fitzpatrick on Nov-11-2004 01:15:

dang i don't know what you guys are talking about, its not a party unless you smoke some crack and take a couple bumps of meth... then pop a couple E's.... come on, its a good time!









errrrrrrrrrrrrrr..........just kidding............


Posted by mb2004 on Nov-11-2004 02:20:

Shame / Disagreement

don't do it in that order though


Posted by Fitzpatrick on Nov-11-2004 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by mb2004
don't do it in that order though


no?... aww come on.. why not?.... i mean last time it was ok... the medics got to me in plenty of time.... j/k


Posted by mb2004 on Nov-11-2004 02:51:

Rasta

pills first (gonna take some time to hit)
Meth second (gonna need some energy and it'll last long)
Crack third (actually cracks great anytime, but you need a third spot filled)


Posted by Fitzpatrick on Nov-11-2004 02:54:

so what do i need to take the next day to feel ok so I can teach the blind, deaf, foreign kids how to speak english...



Posted by EliPsE on Nov-11-2004 04:10:

Its the damn fobs young/old dont matter, and then the muscle dudes, in that order!! Although for ferry i didn't really see much shirtless muscle guys, Thats what makes that club horrible, being packed with that.


Posted by glittergirl on Nov-11-2004 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Fitzpatrick
so what do i need to take the next day to feel ok so I can teach the blind, deaf, foreign kids how to speak english...




funny you should ask! while we were over in amsterdam, i saw this stuff they were selling in one of the magic mushroom shops... they were pills, some kind of cracked-out cure for almost any drug you can think of. i thought that was kind of interesting.


Posted by trunks1022 on Nov-11-2004 04:21:

why the hate on the east asians? =P


Posted by trancintaiwan on Nov-11-2004 07:13:

i don't care too much about the crowd.... people are trying to just have fun. i think some people just get too serious when they're in a club. i've been to many different places and never really bump into any assholes.


Posted by euphoria on Nov-11-2004 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by glittergirl
funny you should ask! while we were over in amsterdam, i saw this stuff they were selling in one of the magic mushroom shops... they were pills, some kind of cracked-out cure for almost any drug you can think of. i thought that was kind of interesting.


I have never heard of that, the only thing I know of that is available like that is a injection used by medics when someone is overdosing to take them out of it.

Its probably some vitamins and supplements.


Posted by Member of X on Nov-11-2004 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
why the hate on the east asians? =P


I love hot east Asian girls. No hate there on my part. Partying in Hong Kong, Tokyo, Shanghai is wicked!

Me being a interested party in hot Asian girls would like to see them get a little better looking at Avalon (sorry I'm shallow). As I said earlier, there's a large contingent around 50 years old and they sure aren't Milf's. Plus, you get some of the older guys that come over and grope the girls.

Anyway..... I'm still gonna go see Marco V there. I'll deal with it...

There's this one girl who I see everytime I go out and her eyes are so bulging her nickname has become "Bug Eyes." Memo: take 4 less E... 2 looks like enough for ya.


Posted by Member of X on Nov-11-2004 14:22:

Obviously, I'm also an age discriminist.

I guess they have the right to party too....


Posted by stevebutabi on Nov-11-2004 14:26:

Re: Avalon is a mess!

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Have you been to Avalon lately?

I would actually like to see Christopher Lawrence and Marco V coming up but I've been having second thoughts because lately the crowd has really put a damper on my festivities. I've gone to clubs hundreds of times and was one of the only white guys and I'm comfortable with that, but couldn't the crowd be a little more on the younger side? Couldn't they take 2 less E? Couldn't they bogart a little less of the space so I can move?

Most of all my girlfriends have been Asian and I lived in Asia, but 55 year old Asian Fob's who are completely banged up on 3X and Ketamine isn't that cool!

The setup is so packed with those huge blocks in the middle of the dance floor and that empty stage on the side...it's simply ruining my vibe.

Sorry, I've only lived in New York for 6 months so I'm not used to this as much. Can't the crowd just be a little younger and slightly more toned down? Take examples from Zouk in Singapore or some clubs in Hong Kong, Tokyo, etc. that add a little more class, still have some side entertainment, and still have wild (but still in control) trance nights.

It's New York...the standard should be higher.

I know you native New Yorkers out there know more of what's going on than me.... so why has all this mess happened just recently?




simple solution to this:

don't go to avalon EVER, you're 100X better off at Crobar.


Posted by Member of X on Nov-11-2004 14:47:

Re: Re: Avalon is a mess!

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
simple solution to this:

don't go to avalon EVER, you're 100X better off at Crobar.


Yeah, but the DJ's at Avalon sometimes overcome the mess that exists.

I just like to see my trance DJ's sometimes too....


Posted by Fitzpatrick on Nov-11-2004 15:04:

yeah that kind of stuff does make it suck


Posted by jurel on Nov-12-2004 00:32:

bring back sexy at the roxy!


Posted by verndogs on Nov-12-2004 01:46:

Re: Re: Avalon is a mess!

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
simple solution to this:

don't go to avalon EVER, you're 100X better off at Crobar.


My rule for avalon is pretty much to go there only for Ferry


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