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Posted by Ironside on Nov-10-2004 05:26:

I've been getting pretty bored with trance recently. I used to love it soo much but now every stream I listen to on the net or any cd I get bores me very quickly. I've been trying to branch out into other genres but haven't found one I like just yet. I think I might get back into house.


Posted by Orange Project on Nov-10-2004 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Briden
your saying fuck that.. to me not being into tiesto and the latest anthems. sorry! i wasn't aware there was a published tranceaddict music appreciation guideline, can you point me to it?

is it in your ass? your head seems to be.


I say fuck being into the least-evolving dance music there is. Full of scruffy drugheads that love thinking they are "underground" because their parties are mainly in third world countries.


Posted by TheVrk on Nov-10-2004 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Orange Project
Trance could have a future If there was more experimentation with the core, not with the breakdown


totally agree....but eventually it will


Posted by Light The Fuse on Nov-10-2004 07:13:

prediction - it'll split into something more techy and something more proggy and then it'll almost disappear from clubs/events and then in about 4 years it'll all come back again.


Posted by Briden on Nov-10-2004 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Orange Project
I say fuck being into the least-evolving dance music there is. Full of scruffy drugheads that love thinking they are "underground" because their parties are mainly in third world countries.


right...


Posted by josh4 on Nov-10-2004 07:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Mugenlude99
Trance will only get better

i agree


Posted by basd on Nov-10-2004 08:02:

It'll probably not get better for a while yet. That's until people stop kissing the ass of the boring shit released nowadays, and buying / leeching every single shitty track there is. Then it'll take another while for producers to start realizing what they've done to the music, and to start off again with something refreshing and innovative.


Posted by FirstBorn on Nov-10-2004 09:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
prediction - it'll split into something more techy and something more proggy and then it'll almost disappear from clubs/events and then in about 4 years it'll all come back again.


I reckon this is pretty much bang on. Musical genres tend to wax and wane in popularity and the dance music scene is no exception. As far as trance is concerned, I can only comment on the records I see (and buy) in the shops but right now trance seems to be heading in a very techy direction. It'll probably remain that way for a while before the sound becomes tired and some other sort of influence takes over.

Longer-term, production standards will continue to rise so what is sounding fantastic now will probably sound so-so in four years time (a bit like a lot of 1999 trance sounds these days, IMHO). I think (hope!) we'll hear more and more tracks that are genuinely jaw-dropping and will probably a move away from the very generic feel that a lot of trance seems to have at the moment.

Predicting the future is always difficult but just my 2p worth, mind.


Posted by Ste on Nov-10-2004 10:58:

theres plenty of good decent and different trance out there (althugh not as muc has i would like). people are just too stuck on their prog and anthems to care about it.


Posted by Ste on Nov-10-2004 11:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Orange Project
I say fuck being into the least-evolving dance music there is. Full of scruffy drugheads that love thinking they are "underground" because their parties are mainly in third world countries.



not really. their is a big psy scene in the UK full of great parteis, it seems one of the last places where peopel arnt stuck o nthe plastic image of a super star DJ playing "big" tunes. u'll usually find theres a lot more than psy their too, plenty of other decent trance hybrids.


Posted by A.J. on Nov-10-2004 11:27:

quote:
Originally posted by MK-S


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Wicked Neo



Classic!!!


Posted by theEXODUZ on Nov-10-2004 12:13:

Thumbs up

interesting opinion, people

do you think there will be more trance with breakz?


Posted by Cloud on Nov-10-2004 14:13:

Tiesto's son


Posted by gizzymcg on Nov-10-2004 14:24:

Personally i think we are all way 2 critical of the current state of Trance. There are fantastic productions cumin out all the time. I luv the "it all sounds the same" crap. Eh doesnt Techno get a bit tedious after a while?

The new producers such as John O'Callaghan are showing the way forward for the melodic side. Guys like Marcel Woods are pushing the boundries with the harder techier stuff.

Yeh the likes of Judge Jules etc do spoil the scene sumwhat with their procession of playing terrible cheesy tunes. But they are only cheesy if u actually pay attention 2 it. I no nites in Glasgow that are goin back 2 basics and makin trance underground and edgy again. I went 2 the Tiesto Concert and i dont no what every1 else saw on the Saturday but i was luvin it.

Point is if i can still go in2 a club and hear quality music with a good crowd ill b luvin it in2 my 30's. Ive been "reaching for the lasers" for 6 years and im more crazy bout the scene than i ever have been


Posted by Fitzpatrick on Nov-10-2004 14:31:

quote:
Originally posted by gizzymcg
Personally i think we are all way 2 critical of the current state of Trance. There are fantastic productions cumin out all the time. I luv the "it all sounds the same" crap. Eh doesnt Techno get a bit tedious after a while?

The new producers such as John O'Callaghan are showing the way forward for the melodic side. Guys like Marcel Woods are pushing the boundries with the harder techier stuff.

Yeh the likes of Judge Jules etc do spoil the scene sumwhat with their procession of playing terrible cheesy tunes. But they are only cheesy if u actually pay attention 2 it. I no nites in Glasgow that are goin back 2 basics and makin trance underground and edgy again. I went 2 the Tiesto Concert and i dont no what every1 else saw on the Saturday but i was luvin it.

Point is if i can still go in2 a club and hear quality music with a good crowd ill b luvin it in2 my 30's. Ive been "reaching for the lasers" for 6 years and im more crazy bout the scene than i ever have been


Very good point.....


Posted by tu_face on Nov-10-2004 14:48:

i think trance needs to ditch some of its boundaries. it needs to work on the beats and include more interesting combinations. it needs to push the frontier on 'acceptable' synths (a lot of them DO sound the same as a synth used in about 876542 other trance tracks in the past). it needs to ditch the formulaic structure and use its imagination a bit more.

then, and only then will i find trance as interesting as i used to, but for the time being, there isn't much in the way of innovation going on....

unfortunatly, if trance did all those things i listed, it would be classified as psy, prog, or techno.

trance is fucked.


Posted by dj tek on Nov-10-2004 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
theres plenty of good decent and different trance out there (althugh not as muc has i would like). people are just too stuck on their prog and anthems to care about it.

this is true.. instead of bitching about whats 'wrong' take that time to explore, dig deeper...


Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Nov-10-2004 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Orange Project
I really much agree with you. Trance could have a future If there was more experimentation with the core, not with the breakdown


Kind of how it was pre '97-98 then, when the big breakdowns were the exceptions to the rule. Much more experimentation going on regarding the structure of the track. Even though it stagnated soundwise towards the end and then got to be replaced by the big euphoric uber-breakdowns that never went away.


Posted by Orange Project on Nov-10-2004 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
not really. their is a big psy scene in the UK full of great parteis, it seems one of the last places where peopel arnt stuck o nthe plastic image of a super star DJ playing "big" tunes. u'll usually find theres a lot more than psy their too, plenty of other decent trance hybrids.


Well if you see, the only big psy trance party in the uk is astrofenix @ SE1. The rest are free parties, or parties at small venues, etc. In places like Mexico and India there is a fuck load of money involved, the scene is huge and groups like infected mushroom are bigger than PVD or Tiesto are in Europe. Also the genere has not evolved in the past 10 years the sound is exactly the same.


Posted by Ste on Nov-10-2004 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Orange Project
Well if you see, the only big psy trance party in the uk is astrofenix @ SE1. The rest are free parties, or parties at small venues, etc. In places like Mexico and India there is a fuck load of money involved, the scene is huge and groups like infected mushroom are bigger than PVD or Tiesto are in Europe. Also the genere has not evolved in the past 10 years the sound is exactly the same.



yeh but theyre like festivals, like the antiworld parties etc. theres still plenty of decent sized nights with psy involvement...

edit: but id agree there isnt the money invovled in the uk. which is good in a way, coz it stays about the music and not making big bucks.


Posted by theEXODUZ on Nov-10-2004 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
.... it needs to push the frontier on 'acceptable' synths (a lot of them DO sound the same as a synth used in about 876542 other trance tracks in the past)...
trance is fucked.


this is what pisses me off the most when it comes to trance music


Posted by dj tek on Nov-10-2004 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by theEXODUZ
this is what pisses me off the most when it comes to trance music

but its true... same synth or not, producers need to work on their melody which is the main element of trance... alot of it coming out have mediocre to weak melodies..


Posted by tu_face on Nov-10-2004 17:56:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
but its true... same synth or not, producers need to work on their melody which is the main element of trance... alot of it coming out have mediocre to weak melodies..


true, the melody IS the main element of a trance track, but people forget about being creative with the synth too. both things are required IMO.


Posted by dj tek on Nov-10-2004 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
true, the melody IS the main element of a trance track, but people forget about being creative with the synth too. both things are required IMO.

oh yes. many many many synths sound the same.. i mean, arent the producers bored with 'that' sound themselves ? its amusing sometimes... kinda sad cuz the state we are in now is boring synth + medicore melodies.. 2 wrongs dont make a right...


Posted by theEXODUZ on Nov-10-2004 19:28:

i guess some producers think that drugs will help people to like their shity music..


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