Which is worse: Indie Rock explosion or Emo explosion

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Posted by Geoff on Nov-15-2004 04:49:

we need Nirvana back

Posted by Kooshtie on Nov-15-2004 05:01:

quote:
You realise, as a TA, it's your duty to convert her to trance??
laff,wow trancers are the most openminded people there are *barf* ...how about expose her to edm in general kthnx.

Posted by Kooshtie on Nov-15-2004 05:03:

What we need is Oasis to lay down a fat new album, the best rock group of our era hands down, and are already considered rock legends.

Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-15-2004 05:04:

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Originally posted by Remiks
What we need is Oasis to lay down a fat new album, the best rock group of our era hands down, and are already considered rock legends.

What we need is all emob ands to be lined up, and then shot with balls of their own shit.

Posted by enferno on Nov-15-2004 05:05:

RAZOR BLADES AND BAND-AIDES

nawimsayin?

fuck emo kids. why don't we just throw them all into a confied area, with no lights, only one box of klenex, and a shit load of razor blades and kill all of the ******.

Posted by idoru on Nov-15-2004 05:06:

Posted by Perfect_Cheezit on Nov-15-2004 05:15:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On

Here's the thing about emo threads: people only ever whine and complain and bitch and moan about how much they hate emo. Well why do these people hate emo, you might ask? Because emo is just somebody whining and complaining and bitching and moaning. See the correlation here?

This makes it immune to being ridiculed...how? I think like any other type of music it will get its share of criticism...from me

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I see neither as worse...especially considering the fact that 'Indie' music, within itself, by the very definition thereof, is completely immune to being part of an explosion. It's like saying 'mainstream-underground'. Well what the fuck? It contradicts itself!

Well I'm sure it would in fact be resistant to exploding onto the mainstream if it weren't so blatantly obvious that the music is featured on MTV as often as pop music, and is played on the radio more so now than any other time before that I've seen. Well what the fuck?! I don't see it as much of a contradiction as much as a purist of the sound would see it as a bastardization of it, like alot of punk bands.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
People are going to like what they are going to like - the reasons tend to be different though, and the only thing that should be looked down upon is liking a music merely because it makes you feel as though you 'fit-in' with some sort of crowd. You should appreciate the music for what it is, not just refer your opinions of the mindfucked "fans" onto your judgements of the music, itself. As with any true art form, there is worthwhile beauty perceivable only by those who want to see with eyes unclouded by a limited prejudice against the dangers of something new and foreign.

Plese focus your frustrations on the appropriate aspect. As with most things, this happens to be the people.

I agree with you for the most part, but my original statements and opinions still stand!! Good post though.

Posted by Geoff on Nov-15-2004 05:19:

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Originally posted by Nou
Oh, deathcab gets a little bump for being local, but having this sound "founded" in seattle pretty much drops the credit I give them.

see the "howto be emo movie": http://www.perpetualsomething.com/

lol that vid was pretty good

Posted by DaveSZ on Nov-15-2004 06:19:

This is effectively your question:

Which is worse - having your testicles slammed with a sledgehammer or having your testicles chewed on by a large rottweiler?

Posted by icyhandofcrap on Nov-15-2004 06:39:

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-15-2004 06:47:

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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit
This makes it immune to being ridiculed...how? I think like any other type of music it will get its share of criticism...from me

I didn't say it was immune to ridicule - in fact, it's obvious that emo is anything but immune to ridicule. I was just pointing out that people are so emo...when they bitch about emo.

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Well I'm sure it would in fact be resistant to exploding onto the mainstream if it weren't so blatantly obvious that the music is featured on MTV as often as pop music, and is played on the radio more so now than any other time before that I've seen. Well what the fuck?! I don't see it as much of a contradiction as much as a purist of the sound would see it as a bastardization of it, like alot of punk bands.

Maybe my definition of Indy Rock is a little misinformed...as is my definition of modern MTV.

Indy Rock = avant-garde style of decidedly non-mainstream rock music which can only develop onto mainstream rock if it decides to do so as with each rising indy-rcok band/artist. BUT when that band/artist decides to cross-over into the mainstream of things, people can only claim that the person no longer does "indy-Rock" but rather, "mainstream rock". There is a dicrepency within the definition there. correct me if I'm wrong, as I really don't listen to either genre.

MTV, if I remember correctly (5 minutes ago when I was watching it), does not play music or music videos. Occasionally they will showcase a video which happens to associate itself with a style of expression known as "rap" but once again, there is discrepancy in the definition, especially considering whether or not this 'rap' can truly be called music.

I keed, I keed, rap-fans!

please don't shoot me

Posted by the-un-named on Nov-15-2004 08:10:

EMO makes me want to vomit, or go on a killing spree (not sure which).

Indy doesn't bother me as much, the singers' voice's irritate me, but not to the homocidal point that EMO's do.

Posted by jdat on Nov-15-2004 14:48:

Emo is beautiful even if it's true the trendy factor is truly annoying.

Q. How many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. None, they just sit in the dark and cry

Q. How many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. 2 - one to change the lightbulb and the other to write a poem about it

Q. How many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. 2 - one to change the lightbulb and drop the old one, and the other to cut themselves with the shards of the broken lightbulb

Posted by Kooshtie on Nov-15-2004 17:25:

Dashboard Confessional.... i die.

Posted by Haak on Nov-15-2004 17:34:

what exactly is emo anyway? something like wanna be "punk" bands like good charlotte? if so, then i truly hate it hehe

Posted by Mebot on Nov-15-2004 17:54:

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Originally posted by Haak
what exactly is emo anyway? something like wanna be "punk" bands like good charlotte? if so, then i truly hate it hehe

nah, GC is more like pop-punk rather than emo...of course they do have the emo look (black long hair, painted fingernails, all black outfits etc..)

emo is, as i think its already been pointed out, is emotional punk.. there are several degrees of emo.. from the whiney emotional to the angst emotional hardcore.

most emo is about losing a girlfriend or how life sucks or something. but not always

Posted by DjSimonB on Nov-15-2004 18:15:

I don't know, both of them are annoying, we've a huge flood of all these crappy pop-punk/emo bands now just now (SP, GC, Yellowcard, etc etc etc) and also boring indie that's too annoyingly boring to even be good background music (Libertines, HOTS, etc)

I don't understand either. With most genres I dislike, I understand the reasons why other people do like them (e.g. I don't like RnB, but people like to dance/sing along to it) . But not these ones.

Posted by l�cid on Nov-15-2004 21:08:

i hate the trendy emo style. but i love emo. go figure.

i used to listen to loads of emo before i got into EDM, and i still go back and listen to a few of my favorite bands (who were my favorite bands before they got all "cool" on MTV). the main reason i took such a drastic jump from emo ---> trance, is because i was sick of listening to music that made me depressed.

i just want to post the lyrics to one of my favorite songs by an emo band, to show that not ALL emo music is about being depressed...

Dashboard Confessional - "Hands Down"

Breathe in for luck, breathe in so deep
This air is blessed, you share with me
This night is wild, so calm and dull
These hearts they race from self control
Your legs are smooth as they graze mine
We're doing fine, we're doing nothing at all

My hopes are so high that your kiss might kill me
So won't you kill me, so I die happy
My heart is yours to fill or burst, to break or bury
or wear as jewelery, which ever you prefer

The words are hushed let's not get busted
Just lay entwined here, undiscovered
Safe in here from all the stupid questions
"Hey did you get some?"... Man, that is so dumb
Stay quiet, stay near, stay close they can't hear
So we can get some

My hopes are so high that your kiss might kill me
So won't you kill me, so I die happy
My heart is yours to fill or burst, to break or bury
or wear as jewelery, which ever you prefer

Hands down this is the best day I can ever remember
Always remember the sound of the stereo,
the dim of the soft lights,
the scent of your hair that you twirled in your fingers
And the time on the clock when we realized it's so late
And this walk that we shared together

The streets were wet and the gate was locked
so I jumped it, and let you in
And you stood at your door with your hands on my waist
and you kissed me like you meant it
And I knew that you meant it
that you meant it, that you meant it
I knew that you meant it, that you meant it

anyway there's lots of good emo out there that is very deftly written. don't judge an entire genre based on what you see on MTV or the way kids in high school adapt to trends. we all know the stereotypes of electronic music, so let's not do the same to other genres of music, whether you appreciate them or not.

Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-16-2004 02:17:

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Originally posted by l�cid
anyway there's lots of good emo out there that is very deftly written. don't judge an entire genre based on what you see on MTV or the way kids in high school adapt to trends. we all know the stereotypes of electronic music, so let's not do the same to other genres of music, whether you appreciate them or not.

Very well-put.

Posted by mrmsn on Nov-16-2004 04:48:

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Originally posted by Nou
Ok, this is what gets me the most about emo, more than any other group of music lovers.

99.9% of all the people I know that like Emo/Indie Rock (I know a bunch!) will only listen to Emo/Indie Rock, and wont ever EVER even give a chance to another genre of music. They wont even listen to it to see what it sounds like. I know people that listen to rap that like trance, people who like rock that like rap, and people who like trance that love tons of other music (out side of EDM).

I will give other music a chance, but my emo friends, run scared.

Thats the thing that gets me the most.

Guess I am the .1% I cant say I am an EMO fan - but I give anything a chance. Plus I have a problem lumping EMO and Indie together.

One more thing, Modest Mouse is not EMO - they have numerous albums out and albeit some are whiny like EMO - but it's like saying a particular DJ only plays Deep House - when a set could have numerous EDM.

I think if you lump ANY genre of music as SUCKing you limit yourself. Listen, then make a choice, which I think a number of electronic music fans are open too. Just dont say all of one genre sucks - you may find yourself liking something around the corner.

Quit whining about EMO - the genre whines enough.

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