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Posted by starsearcher on Nov-15-2004 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
so long uncle tom we'll miss you


I'm sure he'll be back in one way or another


Posted by Fir3start3r on Nov-15-2004 23:33:

Not surprising considering noone usually lasts over 3 years for that post anyways...


Posted by smokeape on Nov-16-2004 03:15:

If you think that's shocking, here's the rest of the story!

quote:
Bush Chooses Rice to Replace Powell
(AP) - President Bush has selected Condoleezza Rice, his national security adviser and trusted confidant, to replace Colin Powell as secretary of state, officials said Monday, in a major shakeup of the president's national security team. Three other Cabinet secretaries also resigned. Powell, a retired four-star general who often clashed on Iraq and other foreign policy issues with more hawkish members of Bush's administration, said he was returning to private life once his successor was in place



[[[smoke]]]

Holy Smokes!
Hope we got some other candidates lined up for National Security Advisor...


Posted by Fir3start3r on Nov-16-2004 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
If you think that's shocking, here's the rest of the story!


I don't get it...what's so shocking about resigning and wanting to get out of politics ?


Posted by starsearcher on Nov-16-2004 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I don't get it...what's so shocking about resigning and wanting to get out of politics ?


I highly doubt he's getting out of politics...he's a young guy still he'll hang around for a while


Posted by JM on Nov-16-2004 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
I highly doubt he's getting out of politics...he's a young guy still he'll hang around for a while


prolly run for president somewhere down the road.

>JM<


Posted by Spacey Orange on Nov-16-2004 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
prolly run for president somewhere down the road.

>JM<


i doubt it. he's in his prime now, and besides, the republican party is not the same anymore. he's centre right on social issues and i liken him more to sen. spectre. i just don't see the religious constiuency like ralph reed and the neo-cons supporting him, even though he would get enourmous support from the progs and the left. mccain on the other hand is a different story.


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-16-2004 08:06:

Re: Powell resigns...

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
Colin Powell resigns
Further Cabinet resignations expected

Monday, November 15, 2004 Posted: 10:46 AM EST (1546 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has submitted his resignation to President Bush, the White House said on Monday.

Powell is the most prominent of four Cabinet officials whose resignations will be announced Monday, sources told CNN.

The others will be Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman, Education Secretary Rod Paige and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, the sources said.

Powell told his senior staff that he planned to stay on until a replacement was confirmed, State Department officials said.

State Department officials told CNN that Bush and Powell decided mutually that it was time for him to go.

The officials said that Powell plans to keep working on a number of key issues, including North Korean nuclear talks, the Iraqi elections scheduled for January and Middle East peace process.

Powell was scheduled to travel to Egypt next week for a conference on Iraq.

A senior official said Monday that the State Department was trying to arrange a meeting between Powell and the new Palestinian leadership, but added the details have not been worked out. A date and place have not been set, the official said.

The official made the comment after Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath told reporters in Gaza City that Powell was expected to meet with the leadership next week in the West Bank.

Rumors have swirled about Powell's role in a second Bush administration, but neither the president nor the secretary had spoken publicly about his future.

Last week, when asked if he wanted Powell to stay on to oversee the Mideast peace process Bush told reporters: "I'm proud of my secretary of state. He's done a heck of a good job."

Powell told reporters that he had had several conversations with the president, but would not comment on what they said.

LINK

talk...


Guilt?


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-16-2004 11:51:

Re: Re: Powell resigns...

She's the new one to get into the House:


quote:
Originally posted by Harry Belafonte:
There's an old saying, In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him.
Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.


Posted by LiquidX on Nov-16-2004 13:41:

RICE taking Powell's Place?!?!.. Give me a freaking BRAKE!!!!!..


Posted by Zild on Nov-16-2004 14:05:

That pisses me off, guess he finally had it with the ole King George.


Posted by MisterOpus1 on Nov-16-2004 20:12:

Powell's resignation is part of a broader desire of Bush to �clean house�, or as some critics would say � get rid of all who disagree with Bush. From Knight Ridder:

quote:
�They're going to purge the State Department," said one of the senior [Administration] officials, adding that he'd heard White House officials say:
�The State Department doesn't get it. They're not on the president's message.�
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/10190336.htm


And that was just the tip of the iceberg. Those folks in the CIA, you know those reality-based folks who felt that the Iraqi intelligence dispelled from Bush to the public was just a wee bit off, well, so long folks:

quote:
The White House has ordered the new CIA director, Porter Goss, to purge the agency of officers believed to have been disloyal to President George W. Bush or of leaking damaging information to the media about the conduct of the Iraq war and the hunt for Osama bin Laden, according to knowledgeable sources.

"The agency is being purged on instructions from the White House," said a former senior CIA official who maintains close ties to both the agency and to the White House. "Goss was given instructions ... to get rid of those soft leakers and liberal Democrats. The CIA is looked on by the White House as a hotbed of liberals and people who have been obstructing the president's agenda."
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...y-top-headlines


And to think these were the same folks who thought it might be kinda prudent to have a post-war plan. From an article back in July 2003:

quote:
WASHINGTON - The small circle of senior civilians in the Defense Department who dominated planning for postwar Iraq failed to prepare for the setbacks that have erupted over the past two months.
The officials didn't develop any real postwar plans because they believed that Iraqis would welcome U.S. troops with open arms and Washington could install a favored Iraqi exile leader as the country's leader. The Pentagon civilians ignored CIA and State Department experts who disputed them, resisted White House pressure to back off from their favored exile leader and when their scenario collapsed amid increasing violence and disorder, they had no backup plan.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/6285256.htm


This is all about politicizing the federal agencies, and Bush will continue to gut anyone who doesn�t agree with his politics, even when they lead us down the long winding path to hell�..


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