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Posted by trancaholic on Jan-31-2001 15:26:

Oh, is Sven V�th dutch?!? At least one dutch DJ who's not afraid of experimenting then

Posted by Positiva on Jan-31-2001 15:56:

AHH i cant believe some of you guys dont think that Ferry Corsten is a dj & a producer, a great example for his Dj work would be Trance Nation 1,Trance Nation 2, Trance Nation 3 and 4 from Ministry of Sound's releases. Ferry is amazing, he also produces all of my favorite music. His other Aliases are Gouryella (with Tiesto), System F and a bunch of others! Hes also hella good at making RE-Mixes.

Posted by -DoomBringer- on Jan-31-2001 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Oh, is Sven V�th dutch?!? At least one dutch DJ who's not afraid of experimenting then

Hehe , I agree with you

Posted by djelloun on Jan-31-2001 18:38:

Re: dutch djs

quote:
Originally posted by ambrus07
Here's the most popular dutchmen:

dj tiesto
ferry corsten
armin van buuren
sven maes
sven vath
timo maas
johan gielen (sort of)
marc van linden (I think so, im not sure)

BUT look who's NOT dutch: paul van dyk, paul oakenfold, judge jules, sasha, digweed, oliver lieb, picotto, piu, dj quicksilver, sash!, lost witness, art of trance, resistance d, basement jaxx, mario de bellis, nicholas bennison... the list goes on.

Dutch dj's are great, but only in their own specific 'epic trance' genre.. i think the rest of the world more than balances out the dutch juggernaut.
DaNNy

come on Man, Sven V�th is German and Timo Maas also...is this a joke or Reality ?? Hehe....)

Posted by Koud_Pils on Jan-31-2001 18:39:

respons

Hello again.

Ok about the Tiesto stuff, I made a mistake, Rank 1 is no Tiesto stuff, Kamaya Painters is the name of the combination Tiesto / Benno de Goeij.

Well the one who said that some of the dj's I called where Gabber/hardcore DJ's before, I was in the hardcore scene for a while ( big mistake!!! :-) ) and didn't saw any names of thoss dj's printed on the flyers.
Their are dj's like Dano and more who get into the trance feeling to but how far I know none of this dj's played in the Hardcore scene.

Well the guy with the English, German and Italian DJ's
Have to agree, those dj's rock to.
I think every country have their own style of trance music.
Still like the dutch more.

Their is one thing to say, a DJ isn't only the guy that play the good 'tracks', you have to fix them........

Sven vath isn't Dutch..........and that suck, cause he was the best at Innercity 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soon in de Klaveet MARCO V.!!!!!!!!! I'll be their, cause I work in that club:-) see yooo!

Posted by Gekhous on Jan-31-2001 19:49:

& where may de klaveet be??

best at IC was Speedy J or PvD, Vath is to repeating for me...

Posted by MenTall on Jan-31-2001 20:12:

What's all this about Epic trance?? We Dutchies might produce a lot of it, but guys like Armin, Tiesto and Marco V do NOT spin Epic trance!! That is, if you mean cheesy trance when mentioning epic.

Tiesto mainly plays progressive (nice music, but oooooh so boring on a party; if you ask me the neck shot for trance); Armin everything from groovy to progressive (but (almost) no epic); Marco V some sort of techy progressive trance or sth (kinda hard to pinpoint).

Just hope that I'm wrong about progressive, and that trance will keep sweeping party ppl of their feet........

Posted by cyberia on Jan-31-2001 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Oh, is Sven V�th dutch?!? At least one dutch DJ who's not afraid of experimenting then

Sven v�th is German!And don't start that he lives in Holland too!

Posted by trancaholic on Feb-01-2001 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by cyberia
quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Oh, is Sven V�th dutch?!? At least one dutch DJ who's not afraid of experimenting then

Sven v�th is German!And don't start that he lives in Holland too!

...and another theory goes down in flames...

Posted by ambrus07 on Feb-01-2001 16:38:

Sorry you all i thought Sven Vath was dutch.. it seems i was wrong but anyway.. just to reply to what somebody said, that Armin doesnt spin "epic" trance..

Epic trance in most ppl's definition is a type of popular, uplifting trance. Songs that exemplify this genre, (I think) would be Gouryella, and Communication. They are epic because they are uplifting and commandingly powerful. Epic trance isnt bad trance, its just stereotypical, formulaic trance. And dutch dj's cant seem to get away from that, mostly because of popular demand. marco v's "luvstruck" is no exception, neither is anything by armin or tiesto.. or ferry for that matter.
DaNNy

Posted by Koud_Pils on Feb-01-2001 22:01:

NOway, Tiesto is no Progressive dj, hey play prograssive.
He was on the Progressive-stand at innercity but his set was no prograssive.
Their is one thing, DJ's aint play one kind of house-style.
I saw him a view times, 2 times at Innercity and one time in Starlight (Holland , de Klaveet is also in Holland)
The first time at Innercity (main stage 1999) it was 100% Trance.
After that he played a set in Dance Palace Starlight, and that was little tech-house, still got the fine brakes, faster than progressive.......
Last Innercity he was booked in the Progressive hall, and his set was............TRANCE 100% TRANCE :-)

DJ's l has to look to the croud which is dancin' en clubbin', they see what the people want to hear.
That's why sometimes I don't like DJ's with a playlist, the DJ has to feel the enmvoirenment in the club so he can change his speed or kind of style if it's nessecery.

Greetzzz

Koud Pils.

Posted by MenTall on Feb-02-2001 10:36:

In case you don't know, Koud_Pils, progressive is a trance variant, but totally different from epic trance. Second, you can't classify a DJ by what he played two years ago, DJs evolve...

About Epic trance producing... Ferry Corsten doesn't all the time. His System F productions might be a little, but traxx like his remix for Marc et Claude (I need your lovin for example) is nowhere near Epic. Just to point out that it's not only Epic trance Dutch DJs produce... same goes for Tiesto and Armin btw

Peace

Posted by trancaholic on Feb-02-2001 12:04:

quote:
Originally posted by ambrus07
Sorry you all i thought Sven Vath was dutch.. it seems i was wrong but anyway.. just to reply to what somebody said, that Armin doesnt spin "epic" trance..

Epic trance in most ppl's definition is a type of popular, uplifting trance. Songs that exemplify this genre, (I think) would be Gouryella, and Communication. They are epic because they are uplifting and commandingly powerful. Epic trance isnt bad trance, its just stereotypical, formulaic trance. And dutch dj's cant seem to get away from that, mostly because of popular demand. marco v's "luvstruck" is no exception, neither is anything by armin or tiesto.. or ferry for that matter.
DaNNy

Well put, ambrus07! I agree fully on the thing about the epic-trance (which isn't bad) being a kind of trap for trance-producers from Holland. It's such a shame, cause think what these, obviously talented, producers could do if they broadened their horizon.

Posted by Koud_Pils on Feb-02-2001 18:00:

MenTall

Well, I didn't say that I saw Tiesto only 2 years ago, the last time was 2 months ago, I fallow DJ's many years now so I see what's changes.

Every style is a part of the 'House' or some called 'Dance'
scene, and many styles are based on eachother, you can't say their is one Trance or one techno.
But Progressive is started to become his own style.

Posted by Dwingo on Feb-02-2001 19:00:

I just wanted to add a few names to your list of Dutch dj's.

The first two are known for their 'in trance we trust' mixes:
-Misjah Helsloot (or Dj Misjah)
-Cor Fijnenberg
-Michel de Heij (although not my favourite)
-Marc van Dale
-Joost van Bellen (although 2step, not trance)

And somebody mentioned that Dutch dj's where affraid of experimenting. I do agree, but of course there are exceptions to this rule. Marco V and Sander Kleinenberg are the names I'm thinkin' about...

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