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Posted by dEsidEL on Nov-21-2004 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
http://60hud.com/videos/fight1.wmv

http://60hud.com/videos/detroit.wmv

http://60hud.com/videos/fight.avi







haha




thanks !


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Nov-21-2004 15:59:

I'm sick of hearing how players shouldn't be charging the stands.
The real rule should be fans shouldn't throw shit at players. Maybe now asshole fans will think twice about doing shit like that again.


Posted by Omegasox on Nov-21-2004 16:51:

Artest should be kicked out of the NBA, he's a punk. It's not right to go into the stands, but I must admit I'm on the players side when the fans get unruly and out of line. I'm glad Artest was in the middle of it so hopefully he'll leave the NBA and go pursue his rapping career.


Posted by chesco on Nov-21-2004 17:43:

I find this whole thing hilarious.

Made a shite sport watchable for 15 minutes.


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Nov-21-2004 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Omegasox
Artest should be kicked out of the NBA, he's a punk. It's not right to go into the stands, but I must admit I'm on the players side when the fans get unruly and out of line. I'm glad Artest was in the middle of it so hopefully he'll leave the NBA and go pursue his rapping career.


but here's the thing .. we said the same thing about rasheed wallace and his dumba*s technical fouls years ago when he was with portland. but the BIG difference between artest and wallace is that artest is actually leading the team in points in some games, while o'neal leads in other games..

wallace never set himself as the primary man in portland.. as much as we hate artest (i hate the guy too) .. just let him play .. but whatever wallace did to be who he is right now, i hope artest gets the same psychological treatment .. because all of a sudden, rasheed is a good angel boy who is not getting into any trouble...

now what if rasheed wallace was still his "bad" boy stuff right now ? .. he could have whooped artest on the court i say .. hahahaha .. i was shocked that rasheed did not do anything.. the way he explodes..


Posted by Michael19 on Nov-21-2004 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by BshidoHEAT
Maybe now asshole fans will think twice about doing shit like that again.



not really. Now that fans see the fella is a bit hot-tempered. Chances are from now on fans will throw more shit at him to see if he over-reacts again.


Posted by Viber on Nov-21-2004 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ.MD
If a fans comes on the court they are fair game. Fat dude got everything he deserved.


Again,you must realize that this is the NBA and not a whore house league in Europe,The player should have gotten awey to the locker room and then the Detroit police should have handeled it,i think that players who get at least 5 million per year can take this hit on their ego.

and if this thing would have happened in an Israeli football court for example the police and the SWAT would kick anyone's asses until they will go home and STFU.


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Nov-21-2004 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
not really. Now that fans see the fella is a bit hot-tempered. Chances are from now on fans will throw more shit at him to see if he over-reacts again.


Then I really hope that fan has some bad, high seats, or they're really fucking strong. 6'8 is a lot of man to fight. And not to mention the cameras everywhere capturing the time someone throws the beer, until the time Artest and his tall, strong friends come running up the stands looking to rip someone's head off. If someone throws objects at the players, I think they deserve a beat down.

Yea I believe players have no place in the stands (that wasn't the problem), but no one can justify a fan tossing a beer at Artest.


Posted by verndogs on Nov-21-2004 22:15:

according to fox sports radio

artest is suspended 30 games
jermaine o'neal 20 games
stephen jackson 20 games
ben wallace 5 games


Posted by Sly006 on Nov-21-2004 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ.MD
Greatest game ever. I got the Game taped cuz they replayed it on the Detroit station the comes here. I'm happy. I could watch fat dude get paid over and over. O'neal lays him out!!!

Artest should get 10 games. And Ben should get 5 at least, cuz he threw something at Artest after they were separated. And fat dudes and dude in white hat should be spending the weekend in jail. Who goes on to the courts and after a Ron Artest. Are you stupid?(OH wait your from Detroit, yes you are).

Best game ever and I got it on tape!!!!

Ron Artest is the man, he should get an award, cuz stupid fans never ever get what they deserve. Now they did. Great stuff!!!!!


I saw that game live as well. But hey, I'd love to have a copy of the whole game on tape.


Posted by Sly006 on Nov-21-2004 23:17:

It's amazing that it happened at the final minute of the game! Can anyone believe that!?! One more minute and they coulda gone gome.


Posted by torontotrance on Nov-21-2004 23:36:

the NBA is the one kicking ass and taking names

Artest done for the 2004-05 season
Jackson = 30 games
O'Neil = 25 games
Wallace 6 games

+ fines

What I don't get is why the Detroit org was not fined for the fracas, same with the Pacers

I think Artest got what he deserved and then him and his two swinging buddies will be criminally charged and sued. It shows what happens, when tempers flare and how the NBA does not take crap. There goes the Pacers' hopes in 2004-05


Posted by Omegasox on Nov-22-2004 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
but here's the thing .. we said the same thing about rasheed wallace and his dumba*s technical fouls years ago when he was with portland. but the BIG difference between artest and wallace is that artest is actually leading the team in points in some games, while o'neal leads in other games..

wallace never set himself as the primary man in portland.. as much as we hate artest (i hate the guy too) .. just let him play .. but whatever wallace did to be who he is right now, i hope artest gets the same psychological treatment .. because all of a sudden, rasheed is a good angel boy who is not getting into any trouble...

now what if rasheed wallace was still his "bad" boy stuff right now ? .. he could have whooped artest on the court i say .. hahahaha .. i was shocked that rasheed did not do anything.. the way he explodes..


Wallace can't even compare to Artest. Artest is simply a ticking time bomb, period. And who cares how good they are? If Michael Jordan did the same thing, I'd want the same consequences for him, it's just assinine to jump into the stands. I agree with the help that Wallace received should be given to Artest, because Wallace has done a complete 180. I honestly hope Artest never plays again and just pursues his "rap career" because he's a joke and has proven his agenda rests outside the game.


Posted by verndogs on Nov-22-2004 00:37:

artest out for the season
stephen jackson out 30 games
jermaine o'neal out 25 games
wallace out 6 games

lessoned learned here:

don't ever trust any news from anything owned/operated by fox


Posted by Shamez214 on Nov-22-2004 00:44:

i wish the baseball players union didnt protect it's players as much as they do. frankie rodriguez should've gotten banned for the entire 2005 season for throwing a chair at a fan... what did he get again? 10 games? i hate stuff like that in baseball...


Posted by verndogs on Nov-22-2004 01:01:

don't worry pacers fans...

union will file a grievance and the suspensions will most likely come down..the NBA had to send a message to all their players


Posted by ShadoWolf on Nov-22-2004 04:48:

6 games for Wallace is pure bullshit... he should have gotten a whole hell of a lot more.

In fact, I think all 4 players should have been given the same suspension. Artest got hosed.


Posted by deibero on Nov-22-2004 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
6 games for Wallace is pure bullshit... he should have gotten a whole hell of a lot more.


wallace started a regular nba fight which generally gets around that amount of games of suspension...
what took the situation out of control was artest, jackson and o'neal jumping into the stands...wallace had nothing to do with the second part of the brawl therefore i think he got what he deserved...
i do think the other ones were over punished...


Posted by ShadoWolf on Nov-22-2004 05:25:

quote:
Originally posted by deibero
wallace started a regular nba fight which generally gets around that amount of games of suspension...
what took the situation out of control was artest, jackson and o'neal jumping into the stands...wallace had nothing to do with the second part of the brawl therefore i think he got what he deserved...
i do think the other ones were over punished...


Watch the video... Wallace threw a towel or shirt at Artest, and that's what preciptated the fan's throwing of the cup.


Posted by deibero on Nov-22-2004 06:13:

i see your point, but he wasnt in the stands fighting...
its better to throw a towel than to throw another punch!


Posted by PhloTron on Nov-22-2004 07:35:

Funny shit...totally uncalled for and the players must restrain themselves from entering the stands...no matter how retarded the fans are. It is funny to note how wussy the fans got after they threw their beverages then ran away like the little sissies they are.

Alas...I think the suspensions are just...though like in most cases there may be an adjustment made on the numbers after the unions grieve it...but it will still = a lot of games and $$$.

The city should punish not only the players but EVERY fan that they can identify from video that had involvement (outside of restraining) in the situation...i.e. threw their beer or punches.

I also belive that the NBA should have "fined" the Pistons organization by not allowing any fans for the next 5 or so home games (similar to that european soccer team that had to play 3 games in an empty stadium)...or at minimum....closing the first 20 rows of seats of the arena for that period of time....just to say "hey, we don't put up with dipshit fans"

anyway...funny stuff...as stern put it "the actions of the players/fans is a mirror of our current society"

Brilliant!


Posted by Viber on Nov-22-2004 14:37:

Jackson and Artest should have gotten the same suspension time.
BTW:did anyone notice that Rasheed Wallace was not involved?...weird...


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Nov-22-2004 17:37:

a just punishment for all the players .. yeah ben wallace had 6 games, but it was just for "the shove + the towel throw" .. that's worth six games ..

artest's punishment, although some may seem unfair, is just to me.. the extent of his outrage to the fan matches the same outrage spreewell had on p.j. carlisimo almost ten years ago .. who remembers that ?? the choking incident ..

but instead of comparisons of artest to rasheed wallace, let's turn the page a little further behind, and compare artest to dennis rodman .. that man is a complete joke.. the only thing he knew how to do was rebound, which in my case was one of the best all-time ... he knew where to box-out the player .. where to stand .. when to jump .. he timed everything perfectly .. his number of suspensions and outrages matches the same as artest's suspensions and outrages ..

however, has dennis rodman ever been suspended for a full season with his antics?? how long did he get when he kicked the cameraman in the groin? he was psychotic and a bully, and his basketball career should have ended sooner than it should have .. at least artest has some talent to back himself up ..


Posted by DJ.MD on Nov-22-2004 18:02:

David Stern just proved again that he is the worst commisioner in the world.

Big Ben the pole shiner, should have gotten at least 20 games. He started the whole thing. He threw shit at Artest and incensed the fans after he threw stuff, he was waving his arms up and down. And I saw an interview where he claims he did nothing wrong. Next time I go to a game, I'm gonna go up all nice, and throw my full beer right in his grill. See how he feels. I even think Detroit is better off without him, because he is the worst player in the NBA.

Jermaine should not have gotten 25 games. Fat dudes were on the court, the are fair game. The Union is gonna have a field day with this one.

Indiana will still go further than the Pistons in the playoffs. Indiana will make the playoffs with their full complement of players and they are way deeper than Detroit and any other team in the east.

Fuck David Stern, I have said it for 10 years, he is what is wrong with the NBA. No wonder nobody goes to games anymore. He ruined it with expansion, notice that when he took over the scores became 80-60....ooo exciting. I will throw a party the day he quits.


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Nov-23-2004 16:52:

Im pretty sure you guys know this by now but since nobodys mentioned it here yet ......
their saying now that the fan Artest first went after wasnt the person who threw something at Artest, just some innocent guy,notice how he was smiling at Artest right before he got pummled lol.

Heat vs Blazers 2night, go Heat


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