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Posted by Scottaculous on Dec-02-2004 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
i think that only goes for yakoozas...


That yakuzas cut off fingers starting with the pinky. Sometimes it's as a display of loyalty. Most of time because that guy fucked up bad. The reason why they start with the pinky is because in the old times, everyone carried a sword. And in japanese sword fighting, the pinky and ring finger are the most important. So have the finger cut off means you have to be more reliant on your master for protection.


Japanese are not as caught up on death has the western world. You have to remember that up until recently, the main religions of Japan was Shinto and Buddhism. Shinto practitioners believed once they die, they become a divine being. And in Buddhism they believe they will be reincarnated. So a fear of death has a lower priority than one's sense of duty and honor. That's why samurais were so fearless.


Posted by Pete K on Dec-02-2004 19:00:

Class is in session.



Posted by dj tek on Dec-02-2004 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
That yakuzas cut off fingers starting with the pinky. Sometimes it's as a display of loyalty. Most of time because that guy fucked up bad. The reason why they start with the pinky is because in the old times, everyone carried a sword. And in japanese sword fighting, the pinky and ring finger are the most important. So have the finger cut off means you have to be more reliant on your master for protection.

tru tru.. ive gotten it mixed up with the samurais.. they kill themselves with a blade if theyve sinned.


Posted by Cildainie on Dec-02-2004 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Lac
I heard japanese are not afraid to hurt themselves. They are willing to cut their stomach with a knife right across.



What a stupid comment. What you're referring to is an antiquated form of suicide that was used by Samurai to restore their honor when they were defeated in battle or when they were shamed in front of their rulers. Self-harm is not a common practice in modern Japan. On the contrary, Japanese have better-than-average respect for themselves: strict personal hygeine, great work ethic...

This 'girlfriend' of yours is probably afraid of you and doesn't want you gawking at her friends.

I'm not Japanese, by the way, but my spouse speaks it and we both respect the culture and go there often.


Posted by tu_face on Dec-02-2004 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Gholy Host
Leave it to us Americans to decide that wearing whatever you want is the norm. Still; when's the last time someone in the UK killed themselves over failing a test in school? They do that in Japan. (No, really ).


well there are a lot of cases of students getting mega stressed over exams and stuff, it probably happens in america too, even if they don't wear uniforms

quote:
And as I recall, Kanji has something like 2000 commonly used characters, and there are tons more that are not commonly used? I assume you mean she just got through the commonly used ones.


yeah just the basics, kanji is massive. its a 'teach yourself kanji' book, its brilliant actually!


Posted by daydreamer on Dec-02-2004 20:32:

KarateKid

nihon jin comming through.

<---- look i even have a wittle flag

needless to say there were some tentacles involved.
j/k

she is acting kind of strange over a vid, tradicion mi culo!!!


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-02-2004 21:07:

they're probly having a massive orgy on the tape so it's for the participants eyes only

i dont know much about the culture but i know many an oriental female loves sex lol


Posted by DJ Lac on Dec-02-2004 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Cildainie
What a stupid comment. What you're referring to is an antiquated form of suicide that was used by Samurai to restore their honor when they were defeated in battle or when they were shamed in front of their rulers. Self-harm is not a common practice in modern Japan. On the contrary, Japanese have better-than-average respect for themselves: strict personal hygeine, great work ethic...

This 'girlfriend' of yours is probably afraid of you and doesn't want you gawking at her friends.

I'm not Japanese, by the way, but my spouse speaks it and we both respect the culture and go there often.


Not really a stupid comment I was just saying they can do that if they wanted to. My girl even said it herself that there are many japanese woman who do that. I know all about the strict hygiene and great work ethics etc.. and of course I know about the samuari form of suicide just saying japanese are willing to do that. Question is.. would you?

You should watch the documentary on Rising Sun or I think thats what its called about the yearly suicides the community has to take care of. Especially having yearly search parties in a certain forest to hopefully obtain any bodies left. It's practically a traditional thing to them.

plus my girl is native japanese she is not visiting there she stays there.


Posted by Paragon on Dec-03-2004 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Gholy Host
It's because the culture is so damned repressive. The kids still wear uniforms to school, heavy emphasis on schooling, and a successful career. There's supposed to be 100% respect for everyone, etc.


It might help to get a little first hand experience before making such judgements.


Posted by EriK_V on Dec-03-2004 01:57:

no offense to the author, but give all the japanese, asian culture threads a rest.


Posted by DJ Lac on Dec-03-2004 04:04:

what now I can't be curious? lol.. am just asking for advice. There is a difference between american culture and japanese culture. After all this thread is a general discussion so anything goes

I'm asian too ya know.

Maybe I should say the same for american culture.. but that would piss you guys off if I said something.


Posted by kron on Dec-03-2004 04:44:

all i can say is.. japan is famous for
1) their kick ass food
2) their crazy ass porn and those crazy ass boobs lol
3) good anime/managa
4) technology shit.


Posted by Derosas on Dec-03-2004 06:48:

アメリカじんばかだね、はい、ちょとにほんごはなす
(amerikajin baka dane. hai. choto nihongo hanasu)


Posted by fitom tiel on Dec-03-2004 06:56:

skattoro, man


Posted by ali92 on Dec-03-2004 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I dont think you understand how important testing and ranking is in Japan. I mean you basically test into everything after elementry school, aka, you test into middle school, you test into highschool, you test into college. Tests are EVERYTHING!

It still doesn't warrent suicide. I understand how much of a heirarchy Japanese society is, and the fact that they still are a bit closed off to the outside world. However, I don't believe that someone should commit suicide just because they don't fit a certain social image (or pass a test, for the purposes of this thread). I always say if you don't make it in one place, maybe the place isn't right for your needs. Try elsewhere (another country). We have a diverse world. There are no excuses for suicide (particularly the kind that we're speaking about here: succeeding in the social and corporate environment?) in this day and age.


Posted by Cal on Dec-03-2004 16:52:

The japanese are crazy

quote:
According to BBC news, "Japanese police have found the bodies of nine people who apparently committed suicide after meeting via special suicide sites on the internet... Japan has recently seen a wave of internet-linked suicides, as people seek companions to die with. More than 34,000 Japanese took their own lives in 2003, according to the National Police Agency - an increase of more than 7% from the previous year. A small but growing number of suicide attempts are being made by people brought together through the internet... Our correspondent says suicide has become a widely discussed topic on many websites, and there is even a guidebook to the best places to kill yourself. The authorities have talked about closing down or regulating the websites. But organisers argue that they offer a compassionate service to those who have given up all hope of the future."


LINK


Posted by Orbax on Dec-03-2004 19:50:

There was this one fucked up Samurai dude who was guarding a point in Japan. He looked out to see a navy descending on him. He knew he could not defend his land so he went to the highest point in the land and cut himself not once, not twice, but THREE fucking times across the stomach and then 1 vertical one to show the attackers that he died for honor, not because he was afraid of pain.

THAT, is fucking badass.


Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-03-2004 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by kron
all i can say is.. japan is famous for
1) their kick ass food
2) their crazy ass porn and those crazy ass boobs lol
3) good anime/managa
4) technology shit.


+1


Posted by Scottaculous on Dec-03-2004 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
There was this one fucked up Samurai dude who was guarding a point in Japan. He looked out to see a navy descending on him. He knew he could not defend his land so he went to the highest point in the land and cut himself not once, not twice, but THREE fucking times across the stomach and then 1 vertical one to show the attackers that he died for honor, not because he was afraid of pain.

THAT, is fucking badass.


There is a documented story of this Japanese fighter pilot from WWII who fought an aerial battle before flying back to the carrier. He walked up to his commander, gave his report and then collapsed. When they examined him, they found he was shot through the heart and that his body was already cold. His sense of duty was that strong.


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