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Mother's Pride - Learning to Fly

I love the rest of the track, but it has the most annoying vocals ever. I have yet to find a remix of this track without the vocals.

Oh, the vocal version of Agnelli & Nelson - Everyday really sucks too. I'm glad there IS a version without vocals for this one.

Sal

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Originally posted by boy_luke_y2k Rank 1 - Such Is Life All Ayumi Hamasaki songs

your crazy! rank1 vocals are good.

Oh I just thought of the worst vocal trax ever made !!!! Anyone heard Mario Piu - Love Game ??? The guy (murice) has the most annoying voice in the world !!! The track is not bad but the vocals are downright garbage.

Re: Bullet in the gun

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Originally posted by LoginZ As PvD said :"Vocals are just for 'crasher kids..."

When did he say that before he made Tell me Why & We are Alive?

Bullet in the gun is cheese.

I agree w/Paul Wilson. A cheesy sounding vocalist produces cheesy vocals. Any track w/ vocals by Jan Johnston, Sarah Mclachlan, Tori Amos are golden. BT has a gift for making incredible vocals.

Re: Re: Bullet in the gun

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Originally posted by Twilogoddess BT has a gift for making incredible vocals.

Yah, BT has an incredible voice......



-ABT-

Fatboy Slim - Star 69
hehehe... leave up to you to decide whether the vocals suit that or not :P
anyway i think a lot of tracks which vocals increase, first that springs to mind is Tenth Planet - Ghosts... that track rocks in all ways.
most jan johnston tracks suit the vocals, and delerium tracks like silence, innocente, underwater etc

and about Ayumi Hamasaki, you have to realise that she's a jpop (japanese pop) artist, not a trance producer so unless you all know japanese theres a strong chance the 'vocals suck'

Dj Tiesto - Close To You is a beautiful vocal track too

ill agree with twilo. i think the vocals in jan johnston - flesh (dj tiesto mix) are good. but the # of songs vocals ruin outweigh the ones they dont by far. if they only made dub mixes for a lot of their songs! they got smart and made one with dumonde vs lange - memory, but personally i like the vocals in memory. they fit in the track.

Satoshi Tomiie - 'Love in Traffic' - that song sucks ass!

And agree with everyone else about Ayumi Hamasaki. Maybe all Japanese trance songs should have the vocals surgically removed from their mixes before they are allowed to be released on the western market

I think the vocals of Ayumi Hamasaki - Trauma (dumonde remix) are kinda cool as long as the bass just play one note. When the bass note changes I think the vocals gets cheesy. The track gets a kind of Eurodance feeling which I don't like.

By the way, I think the vocals in that song sounds a bit like reversed swedish

I noticed a lot of people didn't like the "Sound of goodbye" singer's voice. I think she has got a very special voice and I like it! The lyrics are bad though, "the sound of goodbye is louder than any drumbeat"?? What the hell does that mean?

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Originally posted by Kia Kaha Satoshi Tomiie - 'Love in Traffic' - that song sucks ass! And agree with everyone else about Ayumi Hamasaki. Maybe all Japanese trance songs should have the vocals surgically removed from their mixes before they are allowed to be released on the western market

Are u kidding me !!!! Love in Traffic is one of the best porgressive house tunes this year !!! How can u say that it sucks ?!!!

ok, to give a bit more to my earlier post:

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Vocals + Trance = BAD!!!! There isn't one trance song where vocals add to the experience in a good way (IMO). Any trance song you can name would be much better without vocals.

I personally do not like ANY vocals in trance music. There have been a FEW songs that are tolerable with vocals in it ie: Delerium - Silence (I just love Sarah's voice). I absolutely love 'samples' in trance songs ie: Age of Love - Age of Love = no vocals, only samples = (1 of the best tunes of all time!!!).

If I wanted to listen to 'vocals' then I'd go out and buy a Sarah McLaughlin or Tori Amos or Jann Arden et al cd. It's obvious trance does different things for different people. Trance puts me in a different mood, it takes me 'away' from the real world. Adding a vocalist to a beautiful melody ruins that mood for me.

I'll bet that of the 300+ trance cd's I have, I couldn't find 5 songs with vocals in it that I like. I'll even bet that all you TA's with all your 100000's of trance songs couldn't find 5 tracks with vocals in it that I'd like. BTW, alot of the songs I see posted as your favorites, or top-tunes I wouldn't even consider trance...but more 'club' type.

A perfect example of what I consider trance is by 'Jungle High - Samurai'.

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Originally posted by TwoHardCore ok, to give a bit more to my earlier post: I personally do not like ANY vocals in trance music. There have been a FEW songs that are tolerable with vocals in it ie: Delerium - Silence (I just love Sarah's voice). I absolutely love 'samples' in trance songs ie: Age of Love - Age of Love = no vocals, only samples = (1 of the best tunes of all time!!!). If I wanted to listen to 'vocals' then I'd go out and buy a Sarah McLaughlin or Tori Amos or Jann Arden et al cd. It's obvious trance does different things for different people. Trance puts me in a different mood, it takes me 'away' from the real world. Adding a vocalist to a beautiful melody ruins that mood for me. I'll bet that of the 300+ trance cd's I have, I couldn't find 5 songs with vocals in it that I like. I'll even bet that all you TA's with all your 100000's of trance songs couldn't find 5 tracks with vocals in it that I'd like. BTW, alot of the songs I see posted as your favorites, or top-tunes I wouldn't even consider trance...but more 'club' type. A perfect example of what I consider trance is by 'Jungle High - Samurai'.

Well, too bad bro, but you might have a different music taste than others... everyone is different, and not everyone likes vocals in trance. I love great vocals (like Sarah McLachlan, Leigh Nash,etc) in great songs, while terrible vocals will ruin even the best trance song out there...

And the good vocals in great songs can only contribute to the overall mood of trance music (for me at least)... get you flying, be one with music... Myself, for example, I can't stand those boring repeating progressive beats or cheezy repeating trance melodies that take you nowhere,... But hey, we are all entitled to our own opinion!

And just a note, I just downloaded the song Swamper posted on the singles MP3 page of tranceaddict.com called "BBE vs Emmanuel Top - Orion (BBE Mix)" and it sounds all right with these vocals... give it a try.

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Originally posted by biznology Actually I can't say I would agree with you, it IS kinda cheesy but too sentimental, plus that song prolly wouldnt have been all that popular without commanding you to find your goddess energy...late/

Sooo agree with you. That cd is great, but when that woman starts singing it drives me nuts Too bad, ruined a great song.

I would LOVE to see BT, PVD, or Chicane work with ENYA or Charlotte Church. I despise house vocals!


Tenth Planet- Ghosts & Guardians of The Earth- 1 Moon Circling SICK VOCALS!

i think satoshi tomiie - love in traffic is an amazing track!! vocals kick ass... some i thought that were ruined by vocals, riva ft. danni - stringer, ewww, and then gouryella - wallhala (vocal mix) just reeks...

Re: Re: Re: Bullet in the gun

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Originally posted by ABTsportsline Yah, BT has an incredible voice...... -ABT-

Actually his song Satellite isnt bad, and he sings on it. It def aint trance tho! late/

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Originally posted by TranceGeek ...and then gouryella - wallhala (vocal mix) just reeks...

No joke! What in the hell were they thinking?

I do have to say that Tenth Planet - Ghosts (John Doe Mix) is one of the best vocal trance songs of the year. Rarely do all the elements come together for such an incredible track.

Bad vocals? SYLVER! Sorry, but I just can't stand it! They're not intelligent or even consistent, they're hardly even poetic! It sounds kinda like they took an English dictionary and matched up rhyming words.

Sorry but I totally disagree with that. I think vocals often make the songs better. Ayumi Hamasaki's original songs are great. A lot of you only know the remixed versions, that's why you would prefer them without vocals. But when you know and like the original ones, the remixes -with the vocals- are really marvelous for you!
Another example is the En-Motion 'Broken Wings', which would probably not be so good if the vocals were off...

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Originally posted by sektile Fatboy Slim - Star 69 hehehe... leave up to you to decide whether the vocals suit that or not :P

hell yeah, I hate how it just starts echoing "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck", it just seems he put profanity in it to get more attention or something. Somehow it seems out of place . But there would be something missing without it. The voice isnt so bad, just change the stupid words.

I don�t like Ayumi Hamasaki tunes, �cause I hate that japanese vocals man ! It makes me nervous ! LOOOL!

Cheers,
Dj With No Name

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Originally posted by Dj With No Name I don�t like Ayumi Hamasaki tunes, �cause I hate that japanese vocals man ! It makes me nervous ! LOOOL! Cheers, Dj With No Name

Yeah i was gonna say that . I have those tunes and i dont understand japanese i think that's partially the problem, although i dont have a problem with japanese vocal. They are good trance tracks though, but I think there should be a fine line when too much japanese vocals becomes too poppy danncy

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 hell yeah, I hate how it just starts echoing "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck", it just seems he put profanity in it to get more attention or something. Somehow it seems out of place . But there would be something missing without it. The voice isnt so bad, just change the stupid words.

i think theres a censored version on Clubbers Guide to Ibiza 2001. It song just silences the word.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox i think theres a censored version on Clubbers Guide to Ibiza 2001. It song just silences the word.

thats so wack. what purpose does that serve. the only purpose of that song is just to be as offensive as possible really...theres a reason that he chose to put the lyrics in there, its not like it was an accident or not under his control. if a DJ want to play the song it should be the real thing or at least a reasonable remix...censorship is not an art form. wow, now THAT line sounds cheesy, but its true! late/

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Originally posted by indianamike Bad vocals? SYLVER! Sorry, but I just can't stand it! They're not intelligent or even consistent, they're hardly even poetic! It sounds kinda like they took an English dictionary and matched up rhyming words.

You're soooo right.. they suck and all there songs are just the same.. I just can't stand them!! But talking about kucked up Vocals, check out: Minimalistix - The forest .. i like the melody but the vocals in this track just SUCK big time, it just ruines the track completly!!

Re: Re: Bullet in the gun

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Originally posted by Twilogoddess When did he say that before he made Tell me Why & We are Alive? Bullet in the gun is cheese. I agree w/Paul Wilson. A cheesy sounding vocalist produces cheesy vocals. Any track w/ vocals by Jan Johnston, Sarah Mclachlan, Tori Amos are golden. BT has a gift for making incredible vocals.

MUZIK Magazine presents: Paul van Dyk - 60 Minute Mix (DJ Mix)

CD: 11/1999 UK (MUZIK Magazine, MUZIK SI99/5) ^

03:43 Starecase: First Floor Deadlock
03:56 X-Track: Plan 94 (The Voyager)
04:37 Des Mitchell: Welcome To The Dance
05:14 Nylon: If You Love Me (Vocals by Maroni & The Shadow)
05:24 Mauro Picotto: Iguana
06:29 Jose Amnesia: The Eternal (Life On Mars Remix)
07:39 Paul Van Dyk: Avenue
05:35 Victoria Newton: Martha's Harbour (Floor Play Remix)
07:11 The Thrillseekers: Synaesthesia
04:16 Ernst & Ben: Outpost
08:37 Planet Perfecto: Bullet In The Gun (Edit)

When he said that it was only concerning Bullet in the gun and it was a deal to get this very rare vocals cut off version of Bullet in the gun, straight with perfecto label.

So, before tell me why, for sure, and he said in his interview in Muzik December 99, that the 'crasher kids would kept listening to vocals but him prefered to hear without the vocal, he found it by far more powerfull...

a+

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Originally posted by Dmatrox i think theres a censored version on Clubbers Guide to Ibiza 2001. It song just silences the word.

I have that one too, its still a stupid song that just used profanity to get some attention.

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