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Posted by nec on Jan-16-2005 14:54:

I use 3xosc, Albino, Pro-53, Discovery, V-Station mostly.


Posted by Derivative on Jan-16-2005 15:46:

i just tried out adventus. holy shit. and this thing is synthedit?! the gui is a bit scrappy although vanguard set the standard for guis (^_____^)

i found the rotaries and sliders a bit fiddly. i couldnt turn them very smoothly with the mouse and it just made it fiddly to automate. the envelopes are nice but again the sliders are too small - a little change produces a very noticeable and dramatic effect.

the sound is pretty forward. right at the front actually. it overpowered zeta in some places. CPU load is on par with zeta. i.e. pretty big CPU hit with just 1 instance. very suitable for hard crunchy, detuned leads (this is amazing for hard trance and hard house) and also evolving type pads, leads and analogue FX.


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-16-2005 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
i just tried out adventus. holy shit. and this thing is synthedit?! the gui is a bit scrappy although vanguard set the standard for guis (^_____^)

i found the rotaries and sliders a bit fiddly. i couldnt turn them very smoothly with the mouse and it just made it fiddly to automate. the envelopes are nice but again the sliders are too small - a little change produces a very noticeable and dramatic effect.

the sound is pretty forward. right at the front actually. it overpowered zeta in some places. CPU load is on par with zeta. i.e. pretty big CPU hit with just 1 instance. very suitable for hard crunchy, detuned leads (this is amazing for hard trance and hard house) and also evolving type pads, leads and analogue FX.

Yeah this thing can make the best pads ive ever heard, imo better pads than zeta and vanguard... Besides that it pretty good, but not as good as zeta and vanguard.


Posted by Derivative on Jan-16-2005 17:51:

i reckon, with an update or 2 and a shiny new gui, a little bit more polish allround, adventus is definitely in competition with the big league virtual analogue VSTis. i made some hard house hoovers just now + glide. they are *HUGE*


Posted by Bruchpilot on Jan-16-2005 18:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
Yeah this thing can make the best pads ive ever heard, imo better pads than zeta and vanguard... Besides that it pretty good, but not as good as zeta and vanguard.


is there a link for this?


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-16-2005 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonicstyle
is there a link for this?

www.softplug.com


Posted by Koris on Jan-16-2005 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
ive used it for leads and bass many a time and to great effect


so ?


Posted by josh on Jan-17-2005 03:49:

My personal liking will be..

Albino 2
V station
Korg Legacy
FM 7
Triangle II
Pro 53
Z3ta (Seldomly use but its still as good as I heard)


Posted by DRM on Jan-17-2005 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Koris
so ?


wot do u mean so? u cheeky bastard. u said it wasnt good for leads and bass, i corrected you.


Posted by Koris on Jan-17-2005 12:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
wot do u mean so? u cheeky bastard. u said it wasnt good for leads and bass, i corrected you.


nice demonstration of maturity and respect cheers to that!


if you read my post i said : maybe not for lead or bass...


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-17-2005 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Koris
nice demonstration of maturity and respect cheers to that!


if you read my post i said : maybe not for lead or bass...




it's good for leads and especially good for basses, it's all in the programming, no need to dismiss somebody else's view because they have been able to use it


Posted by DRM on Jan-17-2005 12:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Koris
nice demonstration of maturity and respect cheers to that!


if you read my post i said : maybe not for lead or bass...


You said that u didnt think albino was much use for leads and bass. I have used albino extensively and have recieved a fair bit of praise for the things ive created with it, so i said that and you replied "so?"

all i was doing was pointing out the facts and you were the one to reply in a rather rude manner, which only provoked me.


Posted by Koris on Jan-17-2005 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
You said that u didnt think albino was much use for leads and bass. I have used albino extensively and have recieved a fair bit of praise for the things ive created with it, so i said that and you replied "so?"

all i was doing was pointing out the facts and you were the one to reply in a rather rude manner, which only provoked me.


My answer wasn't mean to provok you at all

anyway back to the post, could you post some sample of something fat you did with albino 2 ? i'm really eager to learn, for me albino is a good synth, especially the arp! Now if you think of bass and lead, i think there's better synth at the moment "TRANCE WISE"

when i said that albino is not good for bass or leads, that meaned FOR ME, for my tastes.


Posted by DRM on Jan-17-2005 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Koris
My answer wasn't mean to provok you at all

anyway back to the post, could you post some sample of something fat you did with albino 2 ? i'm really eager to learn, for me albino is a good synth, especially the arp! Now if you think of bass and lead, i think there's better synth at the moment "TRANCE WISE"

when i said that albino is not good for bass or leads, that meaned FOR ME, for my tastes.


Link

check that remix i made out, almost everything in that was made in albino, including the lead, bass and pads


Posted by Koris on Jan-17-2005 15:55:

yeah it sounds good

bass could be fatter tho ( just my taste ). Pluck lead sounds really cool, i really like that sound!

pad are ok but maybe needs more layering ( once again MY TASTE )


Posted by nec on Jan-17-2005 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DRM
wot do u mean so? u cheeky bastard. u said it wasnt good for leads and bass, i corrected you.


lol


Posted by deltaforce on Jan-17-2005 23:06:

fm7 has a very elastic sound that much people do not know for my is best synth to create leads for the trance music.


Posted by alanzo on Jan-18-2005 00:28:

none, they all suck

except sample based ones


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-18-2005 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
none, they all suck

except sample based ones

????????


Posted by alanzo on Jan-18-2005 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
????????


Question: What VST SoftSynths do you use?

My Answer: None because they all sound like crap.

The common sound of "VST Trance" these days sickens me. It is so very obvious when a track is done with all software. If I did just about any other genre, the idea of using all software would appeal much more.

But I can't think of another genre that is more synth heavy than trance. The leads, pads, basses, and percussion are all synthesized. The hardest of the 4 to do on software are leads. Not only will they sound bad, but will eat a chunk out of your CPU.

The software studio is still in its teen stages of development. With the advent of dual-core CPUs, I think we can expect the quality of the FX and Instruments to more than double by 2008. But until then, hardware will rain supreme in terms of quality, usability, and CPU efficiency.

Why do you think it costs so much more than software?


Posted by DRM on Jan-18-2005 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo


The common sound of "VST Trance" these days sickens me. It is so very obvious when a track is done with all software. If I did just about any other genre, the idea of using all software would appeal much more.



What you're referring to there is actually that the producers coming through now are producing generally unoriginal material and not in fact that all soft synths are shite.


Posted by TranceMasterUk on Jan-18-2005 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo


Why do you think it costs so much more than software?


because hardware costs more to build.


anyway no point in having ANOTHER soft vs hard debate
its all at the end of the day down to personal preference.

you cant say hardware is better just because you think its better.
just like i cant say software is better because i think so.
all personal preference, people should just stick with what they like best.


Posted by staticblue on Jan-18-2005 22:46:

hardware and software both suxx.



midi GM channels is the way to go


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