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i cant compare kosmas and lieb, diff. styles...
at least, the kosmas songs i ve heard...
and i think its hard somebody > lieb...

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 further proof that edm is dead, or atleast some of their fans should be.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 actually ive only heard the world doesnt know about 5-10 times, so i dont think its over played, i just dont think its good. twelve is a much better production. did i say the top 20 doesnt count? The problem with people is that imo(i wish there were numbers to this) more people listen to music at home, and not in clubs. Because its to expensive, to loud, to many snotty people, lazyness, underage(wich is probably a good majority). Musical taste is obviousely going to differ. If you want to take it a step further people that don't purchase tracks shouldn't even be allowed to post on ta. That would solve a lot of problems. The only top 20's i will really agknowledge are the people that i know spin vinyl, or have been listning to edm music for an extended period of time. Music is different when you actually have to listen and pay attention to every beat and note in a track. When you are spinning sometimes it can take 5 seconds to know a track is produced like crap. do you spin?

i see what you mean...i do spin and have been listening to edm for more than 5 years already...
producers make music for the fans obviously, to make people feel good about their music (besides $$$$)...unfortunately, they produce for everybody, not only people who spin vinyls...therefore, everybodys opinion works for a top 20...
everything is popularity, if you ask me tiesto shouldnt be no. 1 and not even top 10, but if something is popular what can you do about it, its gonna get ranked high...maybe you dont like it, it doesnt mean it isnt good...

didnt santa come visit you this year?

Re: Kosmas Epsilon - reminiscent of a young Lieb?

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse Discuss

the 4 words that come to mind in this are

over my dead body


Lieb is a god, kosmas is a nobody who's only made a couple of tracks that have been overhyped. Come back to us in 10 years and you won't even remember who he is, whereas you will with Lieb

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Originally posted by Radagast No, if Kosmas Epsilon worked on music for the rest of his life he wouldn't be on par with Lieb.

how do you know? not like Lieb is god...

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Originally posted by Haak not like Lieb is god...

he is

Thanks for the laugh.

wtf are you talking about? are you on drugs? kosmas isnt a nobody hes just new in the buisness. he might end up being great or being a nobody and you cant compare 2 producers like that... most of you havent even heard his tracks. you can only compare kosmas with liebs early worksif you want to be fair.
anyways hes not producing my style but i like it.

oh... and if i were you id ask santa to get me a life for xmas

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kosmas is a nobody

please Ian....



Can't compare them..Kosmas is a new producer

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Originally posted by Haak how do you know? not like Lieb is god...

Most of his best works were products of their times. Times that will never come again. Plus Oliver hasn't quit yet either. Certain of these works FEW have come near before or after he made them.

There are already producers who I think match and/or better Lieb...but definitely not (Insert "McProg" artist #23463223)

Re: Re: Kosmas Epsilon - reminiscent of a young Lieb?

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Originally posted by Ian^ Lieb is a god, kosmas is a nobody who's only made a couple of tracks that have been overhyped. Come back to us in 10 years and you won't even remember who he is, whereas you will with Lieb

Will they fuck. If this scene even lasts that long, nobody will talk about Oliver Lieb.

If you think Kosmas Epsilon belongs to the �mcprog� group then you're just blinded by being part of the super-cool-bad-boys-gay-combo who marks everything they don't like as �mcprog� and have no fucking clue of what actual progressive is.

Oliver is good, one of my favorite producers no matter how irrelevant that could be these days, but he also recycles sounds and even melodies like most of the big producers out there. He has produced an amazing shitload of works but quality was generally intermittent. Is well known that Lieb has amazing skills when producing, but not only because he's been producing for more than 20 years then should he be considered a god.

I can see why Kosmas was compared to Lieb specially when young Kosmas just released, in a period shorter than 6 months, several tracks that CAN be compared to most of Lieb`s masterpieces (i.e. Innocent Thoughts & A Dream) due to their amazing melodic complexity and original sounds.

So far nobody said Kosmas was better than Lieb neither, the thread starter simply asked if he was a young reminiscence, but the fisrt two idiotic replies sent this thread to hell.

The only fact than can be said for sure is this: this year at least, Kosmas was far better than Oliver.

I doubt Oliver Lieb gives a rat's ass what people think of him. Lieb does'nt give you the same formulaic tripe as others often do. I think for anyone to come close to Lieb, you have to achieve something special and no producer these days comes close to what he did.

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Originally posted by torontotrance I doubt Oliver Lieb gives a rat's ass what people think of him. Lieb does'nt give you the same formulaic tripe as others often do. I think for anyone to come close to Lieb, you have to achieve something special and no producer these days comes close to what he did.

I absolutely agree, but this thread is specifically about Kosmas and Oliver, are you saying that Kosmas is formulaic and/or unoriginal by any chance?

My personal opinion about Kosmas does'nt matter. I don't see Kosmas making tracks like the early Oliver Lieb did. Oliver Lieb's early days were special, he showed he had that something extra special about him. I'm not saying Oliver Lieb is the greatest thing since sliced bread but his history speaks for itself. People can argue about Kosmas and Lieb till the cows come home, I honestly don't care but Lieb has done so many styles, so well that he deserves massive props either way.

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Originally posted by torontotrance ...I don't see Kosmas making tracks like the early Oliver Lieb did...

Just for curiosity, please give me a couple of Oliver's tunes you thought about when making that statement.

I don't know about torontotrance, but personally for me it would be Spicelab - Planet Spice. If you have a short attention span the perhaps Taucher - Happiness (Spicelab Remix).

Re: Re: Re: Kosmas Epsilon - reminiscent of a young Lieb?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Will they fuck. If this scene even lasts that long, nobody will talk about Oliver Lieb.

as i've related in the other thread...you're a weak nigga.

what's happening here?????

btw, have a happy New Year

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Originally posted by kosmasepsilon what's happening here????? btw, have a happy New Year

well said kosma...vristous ligaki giati phran fora kai se xleyazoun...

etsi kosma xwsou giati lene ta dika tous xristougeniatika.


you ppl have to stop flaming eatchother for these things. everyone has their own opinon and you can say it without being offencive.

if you post here cuz u love the music, then love it and stop bitching in every thread.

for a moment i thought i accidently came to greece local discussions forums here

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Originally posted by n0bben for a moment i thought i accidently came to greece local discussions forums here

then you realised that they haven't got one

well...i didn't read this thread because i'm sure most of the people in it have nothing really to offer...

but i just wanted to say that in order to be the new lieb...you have to be super versitle...you have to produce techno, trance, prog, house, psy stuff etc etc...and in that regard...i don't think Kosmas would fit the criteria...

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