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Posted by smallSHEEP on Dec-26-2004 22:10:

I think I'm gonna start the probspot "Go on, give that other baseline a try" alliance


Posted by Cloud on Dec-26-2004 22:21:

U can still rename this thread into 'M.I.K.E. is overrated and shit'

System J..... .....always flames...How many threads closed because of u?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-26-2004 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by GtR
U can still rename this thread into 'M.I.K.E. is overrated and shit'

System J..... .....always flames...How many threads closed because of u?


I can't remember one, actually. Where exactly have I flamed? I made a point, got personally attacked, and backed my opinion up. You just don't like what I have to say.


Posted by Cloud on Dec-26-2004 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You just don't like what I have to say.


I don't want to make my beautiful rainy night horrible...I stop here...G00d night m8


Posted by Reactic on Dec-26-2004 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
But, if we're talking trance, Ferry Corsten has changed his style from epic/anthem trance to electro-tinged trance, Tiesto has gone from uplifting to tech-trance, Mauro Picotto has covered almost every style of trance before going to full-time techno.


Hm.. I don't think you have to change your style completely like tiesto did, but you have to be a bit "flexible" and open to something new to get the people listen to your sound over a longer period of time, otherwise you will get maybe some "one hit wonders" with your unique sound which people haven't heard before and then fall on the face..

And probspot isn't the person I have expected to be mentioned in this thread, I think this guy is very talented and maybe his tracks sound a bit similar, but he is still very young and his style may certainly develop in the future..


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-26-2004 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
Probspot
Envio
Sonicvibe
Ronald Van Gelderen


i agree with all but envio... but only because ive heard some of his recent unsigned stuff, its becoming alot more housey and funky.. i think hes starting to progress and develop his sound


Posted by Ian on Dec-26-2004 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
i agree with all but envio... but only because ive heard some of his recent unsigned stuff, its becoming alot more housey and funky.. i think hes starting to progress and develop his sound


but under a different alias i think ? As the 'envio' one, afaik it's all very samey


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-26-2004 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
but under a different alias i think ? As the 'envio' one, afaik it's all very samey


ahh yeah fair point.. i think hes using the ashkan whatever his name is for the new stuff. but still, the same producer is varying his sound, i just hope it doesnt end here, and hes not producing funky house all his life. i expect his sound will keep varying.


Posted by Ian on Dec-26-2004 23:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
ahh yeah fair point.. i think hes using the ashkan whatever his name is for the new stuff. but still, the same producer is varying his sound, i just hope it doesnt end here, and hes not producing funky house all his life. i expect his sound will keep varying.


best example of it working imo is Espen, half of Recluse which do sexy trance numbers, and produces housier/proggier stuff with elusive & many others and on his own, true talent there.


Posted by gatecrasher on Dec-26-2004 23:17:

I think u guys are talkin bullshit MIKE is one of the best producers there is, his tracks are very varied. I suppose u think Strange World is the same as The Search for Freedom or the Leaden Day Remix the same as his Remix of Daze.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-26-2004 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
best example of it working imo is Espen, half of Recluse which do sexy trance numbers, and produces housier/proggier stuff with elusive & many others and on his own, true talent there.


i think most of the best producers are the ones who can vary their sound... thats the way we need to go if we wana keep edm alive and kicking!


Posted by elletek on Dec-26-2004 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yeah, look at the difference between Leftism and Rhythm & Stealth. The KLF went from producing trance to chill-out to stadium house in 5 years. The Prodigy haven't produced two tracks that sound the same, and FSOL have gone from old-skool rave, through ambient, into some techno and are now doing weird psychedelic chill-out stuff. I think I can safely say none of those artists can ever be accused of producing records that sound the same.


what is stadium house?


Posted by Eis on Dec-26-2004 23:28:

Steve Murano Same Thing over and ooooverrr and over again


Posted by DickieThijssen on Dec-26-2004 23:35:

M.I.K.E. is the best producer trance ever had, and thats not imho


Posted by Ory on Dec-26-2004 23:44:

Hm, Benny Benassi hasn't been mentioned yet...

Satisfaction was a breath of fresh air for the more commercial dance scene, but everything since has been the same sound over and over...


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-26-2004 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Hm, Benny Benassi hasn't been mentioned yet...

Satisfaction was a breath of fresh air for the more commercial dance scene, but everything since has been the same sound over and over...


first time ive agreed with you so far :P

satisfaction was original as fuck, a total ground breaker, but then once it sold 1000000000000000000000000000000 copies the sound was duplicated 100000000000000000000000 times... imagine the posibilities, if one producer can break ground with one unique track then why even bother sticking to one sound for all your life? im a big fan of experimenting and trying new ideas. and as i get more confident as a producer, i find it much easier to do this.


Posted by memusa on Dec-26-2004 23:53:

If this thread would have been posted about a year ago, I would have said Gabriel and Dresden, but 2004 has seen a bit of an evolution in their sound. This year my pick for repetitive production sound has to be Probspot.


Posted by Ory on Dec-26-2004 23:54:

I had that track on loop for months last year...


Posted by Billabong on Dec-26-2004 23:55:

Mr schulz is surely a criminal in this thread as is mr avb. Most refreshing sound, prolly junkie xl.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-26-2004 23:55:

i like it even now, after however many fucking times ive heard it, its sharp and i dont care how many people hate me for it, its a fucking good track.


Posted by Durrrtysouth on Dec-27-2004 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Billabong
Mr schulz is surely a criminal in this thread as is mr avb. Most refreshing sound, prolly junkie xl.


Your kidding right?

Tranqulity sounds nothing like Talk like a stranger, I think Schulz has evolved.

For Armin, look at his remix of As The Rush Comes, it sounds nothing like Communicate 3.

Everyone producer has his signature. Just like every rock band has their signature. U2 is more guilty than any current producer because they still use the same formula after 20 years. But nobody complains about them.


Posted by Jasperovitsj on Dec-27-2004 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle


satisfaction was original as fuck, a total ground breaker, but then once it sold 1000000000000000000000000000000 copies the sound was duplicated 100000000000000000000000 times... imagine the posibilities, if one producer can break ground with one unique track then why even bother sticking to one sound for all your life?

Damn, I really hope you were being sarcastic...

If not: check out Robbie Rivera - Funk-a-tron, released about 2 years or even more before Satisfaction. You'll hear where Benny got his idea and sounds.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Dec-27-2004 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Damn, I really hope you were being sarcastic...

If not: check out Robbie Rivera - Funk-a-tron, released about 2 years or even more before Satisfaction. You'll hear where Benny got his idea and sounds.



lol i havnt heard that, do i duno, to my ears it was new


Posted by Ory on Dec-27-2004 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Jasperovitsj
Damn, I really hope you were being sarcastic...

If not: check out Robbie Rivera - Funk-a-tron, released about 2 years or even more before Satisfaction. You'll hear where Benny got his idea and sounds.


Was that track played out as much as Satisfaction? Look, there's a whole bunch of electro house tracks out there, way older than these tracks. I don't see your point.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-27-2004 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
i have to disagree on push, imo he is one of the few persons who chooses to replace his sounds every time. The thing that remains is his style, but styles never change. The only style that changes is Tiesto's style, but that has got more to do with the person he chooses to create his next track for him.


dumbest thing ever said on TA


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