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Posted by Tegu on Jan-04-2005 00:03:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by dj darroch
Tu Face - return the mk5g's & get 1 of those 2300 mk2 pro's



Posted by dj darroch on Jan-04-2005 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu


Ah.........Another narrow minded person who seems to think that Technics are all end all just cos of their reliability!

Times are changing pal! Alll the top dj's are recommending the mk2 pro's because of its performance


Posted by Tegu on Jan-04-2005 01:10:

I'd rather have reliability and resale value over useless features


Posted by tu_face on Jan-04-2005 10:28:

i would rather have a deck that can deal with a feather duster

reliabilty? pffft.

besides, name the useless feature on the mk2 pro please?

j-arm - less skipping than s arm, low record wear
ultrapitch - take a listen to the set i did in my sig, this was impossible without it
reverse - good for little tricks
the joystick thing - good for alterations without touching the record

which one is useless (unless of course you don't have the balls to try something different every now and again)?


Posted by tu_face on Jan-04-2005 11:22:

just contacted my dealer, they told me to check the internal fuses lol, it was them. if that voids the warranty i will cry, but its certainly easier than sending the deck back to them, and very much cheaper.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-04-2005 11:29:

I will never understand why people always put down Vestax products. They make some really good stuff.

Ok, so Technics have made a very good deck and I personally wouldn't urinate on a Numark even if it was on fire (Personal preference), the Vestax deck is a lot better than people think. Arguably better than a Technics.
I still personally prefer Technics, but I would never feel bad if I had to play at a venue with Vestax.

Nem


Posted by Sunnyside on Jan-04-2005 12:03:

Isn't it under warranty, being only 5 months old?


Posted by tu_face on Jan-04-2005 14:08:

yes its under warranty, i was going to send it back but they assured me that i wouldn't be voiding the warranty if i replaced the fuse underneath the platter.

if i would have had to send it back, i would have swapped it for the mk2 pro, but its less faff to pop down to b&q and buy the fuse.

nem: i wholeheartedly agree. i think if someone can't mix well after 10 minutes on a pair of vestax, then they are a pants dj.


Posted by ClubHarder on Jan-04-2005 20:41:

The exact same thing has happened to me with my mk5's!! about 2 months ago the internal fuse blew on one of em, got it fixed for 20 quid at a local shop, now its fuckin happened again, well annoyin am gonna hav to get fixed again but cant be assed with it happenin again, well pissed off at technics, thought they were gonna be reliable


Posted by Zild on Jan-04-2005 20:43:

You can't replace the fuse yourself? I've never had to but I've worked on my decks before and I've seen the fuse its not very hard to get to.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-04-2005 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
I'd rather have reliability and resale value over useless features

Hm...two people in this thread have had problems with their techs.

There was a thread a couple days ago about problems with techs.

And now a new thread has been created about pitch problems with techs.

Now the first pdx 2000s had problems (tone arm, and some people had the platters go wobbly) But these new ones are solid.


Posted by Zild on Jan-04-2005 22:31:

I wouldn't call a blown fuse that much of a problem.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-04-2005 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Hm...two people in this thread have had problems with their techs.

There was a thread a couple days ago about problems with techs.

And now a new thread has been created about pitch problems with techs.

Now the first pdx 2000s had problems (tone arm, and some people had the platters go wobbly) But these new ones are solid.


But remember their are alot of techs around if their are more techs around then their are other decks you will probly see more problems with techs then with others. I hope thats understandable


Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-04-2005 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I wouldn't call a blown fuse that much of a problem.

I wouldnt call it a big problem, or an expensive problem, but it is a problem. And yes, I do realise that the fuses are there for a reason.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
But remember their are alot of techs around if their are more techs around then their are other decks you will probly see more problems with techs then with others. I hope thats understandable

For sure. I do realise that techs are built like a rock, and are very good quality. But they arent quite as industructable as some people like to beleive.

I have no problems with people loving their techs, I only have a problem when people are narrow minded and dismiss any turntable that attempts to make some progress away from the 1200s design, just because it hasnt been around for decades like the 1200.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-04-2005 23:19:

Also consider you may need power conditioners and surge filters etc. If the fuse is going constantly it could help


Posted by dj darroch on Jan-05-2005 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
I have no problems with people loving their techs, I only have a problem when people are narrow minded and dismiss any turntable that attempts to make some progress away from the 1200s design, just because it hasnt been around for decades like the 1200.


Exactly the point i made out!

I've already started saving for a pair of the pdx 2300 mk2 pro's & no person can change my mind with all their "Technics is the industry standard" shite cos even though it is, the top of the range vestaxs are thee best tt out there at the moment as said by plenty of top dj's


Posted by tu_face on Jan-05-2005 11:19:

quote:
Originally posted by ClubHarder
The exact same thing has happened to me with my mk5's!! about 2 months ago the internal fuse blew on one of em, got it fixed for 20 quid at a local shop, now its fuckin happened again, well annoyin am gonna hav to get fixed again but cant be assed with it happenin again, well pissed off at technics, thought they were gonna be reliable


sorry mate but i am going to call you a fool.

you fool! the 250mA fuse cost me 20p from b&q. and unscrewing the plastic shield doesn't even void the warranty. gutted

i have no doubt that the reason this happened is because i am not using surge protection on that deck, but everything else seems to have managed with said (what must have been miniscule) spike fine.

technics should totally watch their backs. if they are not careful, their own laziness will be their downfall.


Posted by cheesy on Jan-05-2005 11:47:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
I wouldnt call it a big problem, or an expensive problem, but it is a problem. And yes, I do realise that the fuses are there for a reason.


Also, you gotta wonder WHY the fuse is blowing. Sure it's not difficult to replace a fuse, but the fuse blowing could be a sign of a bigger problem (like when my stereo's fuse blew the amp started sparking and smoking...)


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-05-2005 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by cheesy
Also, you gotta wonder WHY the fuse is blowing. Sure it's not difficult to replace a fuse, but the fuse blowing could be a sign of a bigger problem (like when my stereo's fuse blew the amp started sparking and smoking...)


Hehe that reminds me of a time wen we used to have this real cheap 5.1 surround sound system in our lounge and one day it started making funny noises then we could see smoke comin out and their was fir inside the subwoofer/amp box, the picture of my brother running down the hall with a burning subwoofer box then throwing it out tha back door is still fresh in my mind


Posted by Zild on Jan-05-2005 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by cheesy
Also, you gotta wonder WHY the fuse is blowing. Sure it's not difficult to replace a fuse, but the fuse blowing could be a sign of a bigger problem (like when my stereo's fuse blew the amp started sparking and smoking...)


I have terrible wiring in my room. The ceiling fan spins at turbo speed and the lights dim and brighten randomly and my bulbs burn out quickly. If you turn the lights on or off my speakers pop. I use surge protectors on all of my electronic equipment for that reason, I don't trust the wiring not to fry my gear.


Posted by tu_face on Jan-05-2005 20:13:

i have great wiring in my house, which is why i never really bothered with surge protection. it is strange how it didn't bother anything else though...


Posted by ClubHarder on Jan-06-2005 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
sorry mate but i am going to call you a fool.

you fool! the 250mA fuse cost me 20p from b&q. and unscrewing the plastic shield doesn't even void the warranty. gutted

i have no doubt that the reason this happened is because i am not using surge protection on that deck, but everything else seems to have managed with said (what must have been miniscule) spike fine.

technics should totally watch their backs. if they are not careful, their own laziness will be their downfall.


LOSER Lets have a look at what I could of won.......

How exactly do u replace the fuse then?? i presume u have to remove the platter from the deck, how do i go about doin this?? weres the screws to do so?? n then what?? Basically what do i need to do to replace the internal fuse?


Posted by Spin Doctor on Jan-06-2005 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
this isn't just any feather duster, its an ostrich feather duster. BMW use these things because they remove a shit load of dust.. but even if it built up static, a) it wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) be enough to fuck anything up, b) the thing is grounded, it doesn't matter, c) i am pretty sure that the technics guys know that people clean their decks. i have always cleaned my decks this way, if a fucking numark tt1650 and a vestax pdx2000 can deal with it why the fuck can't the 'best' deck on the market?


Without knowing if your decks are grounded, and the rating of the fuse, I still think my suggestion was legitimate. The micro static of the duster could have tipped the balance on an already present static buildup (caused by light reflecting from venus and ground tremmors of a specific frequency...or something).

In any case, get a surge protector you fool! I�ve had my decks on one since day one, and never had any blown fuses etc.

As a side note, I checked the instructions, and nowhere could I find anything along the lines �opening the bonnet will void warranty�. Could just be me not seeing it though!


Posted by tu_face on Jan-07-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ClubHarder
LOSER Lets have a look at what I could of won.......

How exactly do u replace the fuse then?? i presume u have to remove the platter from the deck, how do i go about doin this?? weres the screws to do so?? n then what?? Basically what do i need to do to replace the internal fuse?


the top platter just pulls off. do it very carefully, with fingers through the holes and pushing your thumb on the spindle, making sure not to damage the magnets that hold it in place as these are delicate bastards.

the plastic one underneath is held down by about 4 screws, so unscrew them to reveal the guts. inside you will see a clear plastic shield, there are 2 fuses underneath this. the plastic shield is kind of held on by flaps, if you give it a careful twist it should pop open. now just get a pen or screwdriver, and very carefully wedge the fuses out and replace.. 250 mA 250v


Posted by ClubHarder on Jan-07-2005 19:11:

nice one mate, will do that then


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