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who doesnt like big riffs, and cheezey vocals?

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Originally posted by integlspwr who doesnt like big riffs, and cheezey vocals?

That's the spirit. Don't lie to yourself.

Trance is dying because....

-"Normies" call anything that bleep bleeps and doof doofs Trance or Techno
-Elitism which is found throughout this board, people trying to be more unique

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Trance is dying because.... -"Normies" call anything that bleep bleeps and doof doofs Trance or Techno -Elitism which is found throughout this board, people trying to be more unique

Yep, and here in america everyone assoiates Darudes sandstorm with being what all "Techno" sounds like. People are just dumb! Its kinda good america is just rap or rock.

I think most people here hate it because the more you listen to trance, the more you realize how bad it is. Trance was great when I was first listening to it in 99-00, even 01. But I don't know if it's caus the music has gone to shit, or if my tastes have just evolved to think it's shit, but either way I can't stomache the large majority of trance anymore. There are a few songs that I still love, but for the most part every new song that comes out is just not something I have any intention of wanting to hear it again.

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Originally posted by sym I think most people here hate it because the more you listen to trance, the more you realize how bad it is. Trance was great when I was first listening to it in 99-00, even 01. But I don't know if it's caus the music has gone to shit, or if my tastes have just evolved to think it's shit, but either way I can't stomache the large majority of trance anymore. There are a few songs that I still love, but for the most part every new song that comes out is just not something I have any intention of wanting to hear it again.

That's much more a problem with the kind of trance being produced today -- mostly epic Dutch Armin-styled garbage -- than with trance itself. It's an important difference.

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Originally posted by Cobalt That's much more a problem with the kind of trance being produced today -- mostly epic Dutch Armin-styled garbage -- than with trance itself. It's an important difference.

That is true. But, I find myself even rarely listening to my old trance tracks. Every now and than I might throw down a set of old tracks, and I enjoy it, but I just don't find myself really enjoying that sound anymore.

I definitely agree that most people overgeneralize trance into "techno." half the people don't realize that EDM has a ton of subgenres.
I disagree however that Trance is the easiest music to make. I think that just about any moron can write a simple Punk rock song such as just about anything from Nirvana, Green Day, or the Ramones.. but it takes talent to make a good sounding synth.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue I think that just about any moron can write a simple Punk rock song such as just about anything from Nirvana, Green Day, or the Ramones.. but it takes talent to make a good sounding synth.

Oh god.

People who think Sandstorm is what all electronic music sounds like, are more right than you are to make that statement, or even compare those bands to eachother.

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Originally posted by Subey Music is like a train... it stops off at a different location every year or so and then moves on. There will always be people who prefered the previous stop (stops) and those who are keen on the next stop. That is the nature of music. That is the nature of preference.

Thankyou uncle Buddha...

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue I definitely agree that most people overgeneralize trance into "techno." half the people don't realize that EDM has a ton of subgenres. I disagree however that Trance is the easiest music to make. I think that just about any moron can write a simple Punk rock song such as just about anything from Nirvana, Green Day, or the Ramones.. but it takes talent to make a good sounding synth.

You out of your fucking tree? I'd hazard a guess that it takes talent to make a song in a punk rock style.

damn alot of us here on tranceddict dont like trance, well unfortunatly i have grown into trance only recently. so i follow all the new stuff, and discover the old, a very refreshing feeling the old and new.

I still like trance, but I like progressive more these days. I think that it's a natural progression for many people. Especially as people mature and develop their scope of EDM. The fact that fewer, quality trance tracks are being produced now also effects the situation.

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Originally posted by NoobzorTA Yep, and here in america everyone assoiates Darudes sandstorm with being what all "Techno" sounds like. People are just dumb! Its kinda good america is just rap or rock.

But America IS just rap or rock! Maybe a little bit of country, for those who live below the Mason-Dixon line.

I agree with a lot of statements in this thread. Personally, I feel the newer stuff has no soul (like someone else mentioned).

I got hooked on a lot of the 98-01 productions and have followed releases from '02 to this present day very closely. Over the last 2 years i've noticed that the freshness of the genre has gone considerable down hill. Just about everything that comes out now is very well produced but the overall quality of tracks is lacking. There are still a lot of great fresh and exciting tracks being produced, but not really enough to keep my attention. This is why I have ventured into prog house and prog trance. After a few years i'm sure i'll venture into something else but at this moment, i'm addicted to the prog.

Overall, I personally feel that as the popularity of trance has grown(especially over the internet) there is just to much trance being pushed upon us. How many online soucres do we have to hear trance now compared to 2001? It's rediculous and it seems like every DJ can get a show on a station now a days. This increases the amount of tracks that are heard, therefore, creating more labels and producers. With all the tracks being heard now there are sure a lot more bad tracks being played by DJ's trying to be different. My tracklists get laughed at by some because they're aren't new. To me it seems lots of people just want to hear a new tunes so they can over hype them and play them out before they're actaully released, thinking they're cool since they first heard the track 4 months ago.

For 2005, i'd really like to hear trance go alot more darker and deeper. The dreamy, melodic sound is beautiful but it was been drained of all it's life. Hopefully there will be a few big tracks to come out at the begining of this year with this dark and deep sound which will spawn producers to create more tunes like this. And once that has been beaten to death, they can venture onto something new.

Trance has been stuck in stall for a couple of years now and needs to move forward before everyone gets fed up with the genre and moves on.

I personally still enjoy trance...but I also agree with most of the replies on this thread about trance having fewer and fewer quality tracks out there. But I can only say that that's normal. It happens with every genre once it gets popular. Every genre gets to a point where it can no longer progress, and like someone stated here before, it has to go back to the drawing board and dream it all up again.

That's the reason why some bands are one hit wonders while others go to the hall of fame. Do you think U2 would have survived if they hadn't reinvented themselves with the sound of Achting Baby in 1991?

Trance is now in a phase that will last for another year or two before we see it re-emerge with some kickass tunes again. For now, you should listen to electro and funky house which is where the quality tunes are. But trance will be back and when it is back, it will sound fresher than ever before. We just have to be a bit patient.

This is so true.
Most people who hate trance suffer from a serious lack of EDM knowledge and cannot distinguish between cheese,techno,trance and progressive.
Ignorance is bliss I say.

Pretty poor thread topic...Mislead me
Why a lot of people do not listen to trance anymore
It's more like 'Why a lot of people do not listen to trance' to me.
If u mean why a lot of trance listeners dont listen to trance anymore, I think it has gotta do with the music 'evolution' thing. There will be ups&downs.

If ure asking why a lot of people dont listen to trance, then I'll say 1 of the main cause in my country is the lame edm cd compilations commercial ads. Comp titles like 'techno, trance, go', 'party 2004/05', 'techno party' and so many more I've seen, containing all eurocheese. People who don't dig trance will most likely condemn edm(this is aka 'techno' to them). Seen a huge no. of local strangers in friendster having 'no techno shit','no crappy shit like techno/trance' & etc written on their fav. music column.

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Originally posted by NiteMer I still like trance, but I like progressive more these days. I think that it's a natural progression for many people. Especially as people mature and develop their scope of EDM. The fact that fewer, quality trance tracks are being produced now also effects the situation.

Same thing is happening to me.

every year I hear people saying "trance will die this year" "we had the last from the trance genre". this has been going on for the past 4-5 years and trance is still around (yeah we are still posting here on tranceaddict if I recall well). new productions come out some are good and others are bad. trance from 99 was good for the older generation (me included) but have we ever asked ourselves why I think its so good? its not because the music was more clever or original, 2004's trance productions could beat some of 99's most popular releases at any day if you've had listened to them side by side for the first time. as time passes we associate the music we listen to to the events which occured while listening to it which gives us thats nostalgic feeling. in 3-4 years you might catch a track you now despise on the radio and think back, I am sure you will be saying "those were the good times and nowdays all the music produced is shit and boring".

now the other issue is that we have the false impression that 4-5 years ago only good trance got produced. thats not true, there was as much junk being released then as its being released now - it just hasn't survived.

trance died yesterday, but didnt it die yesterday?

some people need to make there minds up. just because its died in country a doesnt mean its dead in country b. trance wont ever become better if all people do is slate it, look ahead to the future.

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Originally posted by LeiWM06 But America IS just rap or rock! Maybe a little bit of country, for those who live below the Mason-Dixon line.

I also agree on this. I live in the U.S also. Ever since I started listening to trance I really never got tired of it. I can see why some people push it off or switch to another EDM genre though. I myself don't really see me as getting tired of it, but for some reason, after I do ecstasy, I tend to not want to listen to Trance for like a couple of days, lol I dont know why, I guess since I listen to Trance while rolling, then when I come off, its like listening to it, brings back feelings of your roll, and in this case your coming down and you dont want those flashbacks(as I would say)of when you were rolling. Its hard to explain but it just is.

I was at one point looking for something frew,new, so I was going to try and listen to some House tracks, and maybe progress into House music, but I put it off, also House music is the style and the vocals, its just like crappy disco music. I do though like only like 2 or 3 house songs that I heard, but I will most likely(99.9%)will never get into it.

Well to some, TRUE trance addicts, trance will never get old or boring. Im always going to stick to trance as my no.1 genre of music, also cause every other mainstream genre sucks, besides Rock which is ok.

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Originally posted by Radagast A lot of people don't like trance anymore because it was overrun with grandiloquent chorus melodies. What they liked about trance before has either been removed or made secondary to the new hooks and easily memorable aspects of the genre.

for once, i'm gonna have to agree with the man.

i love all electronica (except hardstyle/hard house), but now i'm really into minimal, electro, tech house, and acid. why? the tracks that are coming out in these genres seem more interesting to me than what i hear in trance. trance tracks that come out that i do like are very rare, but still present.

ie. Inivisible Inc. - Stars, made me remember why it is i once liked trance.

James Holden, while being eclectic and dropping all kinds of shit when i saw him, also hinted at that trance feeling.

a lot of us STILL like it, we just don't like any of the tracks that are being put out.

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Originally posted by Inertia for once, i'm gonna have to agree with the man.

What? I don't even know you...what have you DISAGREED with me on. I wasn't talking about you there anyway man....

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Originally posted by RickyM You out of your fucking tree? I'd hazard a guess that it takes talent to make a song in a punk rock style.

Well Nirvana is grunge... Punk rock is actually pretty simple, constructed mainly of two riffs and a vocal tune (there are exceptions, of course). Grunge is arguably more complex, although Nirvana's music is not especially complex. There are definitely some trance records that are more complex than punk tracks, but also some which are a lot simpler.

I agree. "Punk" (I put that in quotes cause the shit coming out today is not really punk)rock today is pure shit. Most of the songs I've heard use the same two or three power cords through the entire song. The only hard part is staying in time. I used to be in a punk band and got out of it cause I realized how lame it has gotten.

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