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Posted by tathi on Jan-12-2005 08:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
This pattern is true only within an evolutionary cycle.

Look at it this way.
Paganism is to preteen
as
Monotheism is to teen.
as
X is to adult.

I'm getting restless. It's time to move out.


Paganism is to preteen
Monotheism is to teen
X is to adult yokel
Atheism / Secular Humanism is to highly educated adult


Posted by zig on Jan-12-2005 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
This pattern is true only within an evolutionary cycle.

But each cycle starts the process over again. At the end of the Pagan era there was incredible diversity in the number of Gods. They were then swallowed up in Monotheism.

At the end of the Monotheistic era there is incredible diversity in the number of sects. Will they too not be swallowed up in whatever comes next?

***

Look at it this way.
Paganism is to preteen
as
Monotheism is to teen.
as
X is to adult.

I'm getting restless. It's time to move out.



I know people are pissed with you or something..reading through this thread and others i have participated in...im not really doubting your conviction..but basically i dont understand your answers.

I try to make my answers as simple as possible and rarely need analogies to make a point.

Analogies are basically the process of making arguements from your accepted known and trying to make another similarity between my accepted known.

But if you maybe just answered the questions or counter points of view with a direct answer as best you can without analogies that might help for a start,and then possibly we can all have a proper discussion..without everyone getting cheesed off with your answers.

But im not cheesed of yet..k


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-12-2005 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
Yes, the Atheist.. another problem entirely. Let's see.

You live in Canada.
The dominant symbol in Canada is... a RED LEAF
This has been Canada's symbol for 80+ years (please check 1920s Olympic Hockey Jerseys)

Now the first European to set foot in Canada was...

LEIF son of Eric the RED

Now a rational mind like yours must find that to be a bit of coincidence no? Think of all the people who could have stepped on Canada's soil first? And it just happens to be a guy whose name matches up EXACTLY with your national symbol...

You can certainly remain in your tower, behind your locked door and whisper through the key hole "my world view demands that I interpret that as a coincidence and nothing more..."

By your logic, then, the original pre-history Natives who crossed the Bering Land Bridge and settled into Canada 9,000 years earlier should have names that bare more of a striking resemblence to our national flag than Eric "The Red" Thorvaldson and Leif "The Lucky" Erikson, which would be an amazing coincidence considering the Native American language bears virtually no resemblence to the Normandy language.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-13-2005 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
I liked the islamic fundamentalists' explanation:

the tsunami was caused by underwater nuclear testing by US, UK or Israel.



9.0 earthquake = 32,000 megaton yield

Most powerful tested nuclear device in human history = 50 megaton yield


Posted by Subey on Jan-13-2005 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by zig


GU Rat... while it was fun watching the multitude of ways in which you lace your posts with poison I must devote my time mining richer veins.


Posted by Subey on Jan-13-2005 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
By your logic, then, the original pre-history Natives who crossed the Bering Land Bridge and settled into Canada 9,000 years earlier should have names that bare more of a striking resemblence to our national flag than Eric "The Red" Thorvaldson and Leif "The Lucky" Erikson, which would be an amazing coincidence considering the Native American language bears virtually no resemblence to the Normandy language.


By your logic, then, you are able to take an aboriginal language in existence today and determine what the root language sounded like 9000 years ago?


Posted by Dervish on Jan-13-2005 23:55:

I have an analogy there was a pidgon which though it was an eagle flying above everyone else and enjoyed looking down on everything/everybody from its high and mighty position but if it stoped looking down and enjoying the view it might have noticed the other birds, and also noticed it was wayyyyy off topic, sorry course.

...and maybe it might have lernt something from them.


Posted by Subey on Jan-14-2005 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Dervish
I have an analogy there was a pidgon which though it was an eagle flying above everyone else and enjoyed looking down on everything/everybody from its high and mighty position but if it stoped looking down and enjoying the view it might have noticed the other birds, and also noticed it was wayyyyy off topic, sorry course.

...and maybe it might have lernt something from them.


Alright. Its somewhat artificial but...

In this thread you questioned the logic of one of my posts. I replied saying

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
This pattern is true only within an evolutionary cycle.

But each cycle starts the process over again.
...etc...etc...


You now know my answer to your point. Reword my answer in such a way that you will not interpret it as being disdainful.

I can't see what part bothered you? Was it the "teen" and "preteen" comment? Perhaps you misinterpreted that. Those terms refered to the development of civilisation with respect to god. Meaning that we live in God's house, and we've been growing up and its just about time to move out.


Posted by smokeape on Jan-14-2005 04:36:

I didn't see the God which said "Good Riddance". The poor and ignorant need to be wiped out in large numbers every now and then. Haven't heard yet a reason why the people lost in the tsunami in these third world backwaters will be missed in the advancement of world society. It's like they didn't even count to begin with...
We didn't seem to count the thousands upon thousands we slaughtered by genocide which paled casualties in the tsunami either...


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-14-2005 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
By your logic, then, you are able to take an aboriginal language in existence today and determine what the root language sounded like 9000 years ago?

Of course not.

However, since you seem to think it's more than a coincidence that the Viking explorer and his father who first set foot on the land that would later be known as Canada would one day have a flag that would contain elements similar to their namesakes, then I have to assume you also believe that since whomever first landed on Japan had a son, that island nation could have no choice but to eventually create a flag that had a sun. Same logic here, my friend.

I ain't buyin' it.


Posted by Subey on Jan-15-2005 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
then I have to assume you also believe that


Why do you have to assume that? I've made no statements about carbon copying that link with any other nations.

You can certainly tell me how you don't see that rule apply in other situations but I've never said it was a rule.

Likewise if I throw a single "coincidence" on the table is it really fair to assume I expect you to "buy" anything or establish a "rule"?


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