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Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Siang
Its not a bad OS at all, very very efficient. Its not as user-friendly as windows, but then again it doesnt apply to the same audience as windows. Its not for the average user, its for people who want to use a computer for editing, be it video/photo/audio whatever. Thats what they are built for, and thats the audience they are aimed for. If you want want an efficient OS, use linux then.[quote]

Its actually faaaaar easier to learn than windows. Noobs can learn OS X in a day (yes, a DAY) where as windows with all that redundant shit thrown at you, makes it remarkably confusing to a new user.


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Glad to see you read the rest of my post. And no I dont remember the G4 cube, forgive me I must have misplaced my mac newsletter.


oh, i read it, it just wasnt relevent.


Posted by getfoul on Jan-12-2005 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
No its not, dont you remember the G4 cube? This is basically the same shit.
G4 cube was a great idea, just executed poorly. We have one and it is running great still. Underpowered but hey, what do you expect from old technology.


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 07:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I have used OSX tons of times, and everytime I use it, it boggles my mind why they would design certian things the way they did... the filesystem is shitty, the filebrowswers are crap.... the fact that it has to load an emulator to run OS9 or below apps...


You sure about that?


Posted by _-MIl0 on Jan-12-2005 07:14:

I have a ibook g4 and a ipod and both kick ass in my opinion. The ipod does everything its suposed to do and has alot more space then most other mp3 players, also it has my agenda on it and notes that i keep. It also one of the few mp3 players that is both mac and pc complatable. As for my ibook and it running osx, i feel that osx is a very secure os, its very stable annd though it may not be as easy to use for those that dont know how to use computers it makes up for it in its detail in other areas. Its like the difference between frutty loops and logic, Sure they both make music and fruitty loops will be alot easier to learn but logic in the long run has so much more you can do with it. Macs were designed for visual/audio artists and thus they are geared towards this area. As for there new stuff i beleive its shit, they are trying to become too mainstream and loseing what they are about; makeing quality equipment for the market the uses it. Anyways please dont bash macs for not being able to do what pcs can, there 2 differnt type of tools. If your looking for a good home computer thats easy to use get a pc, If your looking for something to make music/video projects with then get a mac, its simple as that.


Posted by Psiweaver on Jan-12-2005 07:19:

Macs are for professionals most PCs are for the general computer illiterate mainstream person. Dell for example.


Posted by kamil on Jan-12-2005 07:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
yea... im sure... unless there is a new version of OSX that runs os "classic" apps?


You dont need to emulate OS 9 in order to run OS 9 apps (just run OS 9 itself)

More importantly:

who the fuck uses OS 9 apps?!


Posted by DJ JEM on Jan-12-2005 08:21:

Rock The vote!


Posted by getfoul on Jan-12-2005 08:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Ummm I know waaaaay more people that are computer illiterate that use macs... why do you think they bought mac's for our whole school district, thank god all my classes had PC's for the students... although they were shitty hewlett packards.

Apple has always sold the Mac for the people that find windows, or PC's to confusing, look at the fuckin iMac, the whole promotional theme was how simple it was to get it going.
the iMac was made as a cheap way to get on the internet. note the i in iMac. It was not made for people who dont like PCs it was made for getting online. If you want the powerful line you have to look at the Power line, the Powerbook and the Power mac G5. And then you have the iBook for the laptop to do the basic things. Then you have the eMac *inteded initailly for basic educational use but sold publicly*


Posted by getfoul on Jan-12-2005 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
yea... im sure... unless there is a new version of OSX that runs os "classic" apps?
It doesn't load an emulater, it just starts up that system. That's what has to load. Kind of like on windows you can operate windows on one partition and on another linux, but linux isn't immediatly available it has to log in or start up first.


Posted by fr0st on Jan-12-2005 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
There's no way you'd be able to run Logic (effectively) on this thing. Though, it'd be interesting...

I'm sure there's a reason why G5 are selling well in a musician market.


you obviosly have never used logic on a mac platform. Also you failed to notice me saying this gives them a chance to test the platform its self of course they cant run 100 waves plugins. But it is a fine machine to run logic on. Until recently i was doing all my production on a 800mhz powerbook with 1gb of ram... Do not make asumptions when you have no fucking clue what your talking about....


Posted by nchs09 on Jan-12-2005 15:32:

did anyone notice on the main page of that product the fine print? it says do not eat


Posted by fr0st on Jan-12-2005 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
Whiff... whiff... what is it that I smell???? Ah, oh yes, a class-action lawsuit in the making. Sheet... if I was an MP3 player manufacturer, I'd be filing my anti-trust lawsuit paperwork just about now, citing "unfair trade practices", "market cornering", etc. Why???

From a consumer standpoint: I don't want to buy a fecking iPod to make it work with my car controls. I want my iRiver to work - unless they provide that option, that leaves me with the only choice - iPod.

From manufacturer standpoint: Why would consumers shopping for mp3 player for their car purchase our product when we cannot be as seamlesly integrated into the car stereo system as iPod?


Apple just painted a huge "bulls eye" marker on their back. And that's why I think the shares are down. Expect lawsuits by Creative, Samsung, iRiver, and others to start pouring in.

again, apple blows.


Again you your making statements with out having any clue on what your talking about. I am not a huge mac fanatic. I also use a pc and enjoy both platforms.. Mac stock 3 years ago was 15 per share now it is 65^. I dont know why you hate the company sooo much. Least you could do is make a proper argument against it. Not false accusations .


Posted by Plastick on Jan-12-2005 16:56:

ipod shuffle, what a crap.


Posted by biznology on Jan-12-2005 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
Mine runs for ever without needing a restart, there are macs from 2 years ago that havent been turned off. WINDOWS IS INNEFICIENT. Its crappy multi-hardware integration makes it fucken unstable. Theres a reason wht professionals use macs for design, film, music production, etc.



Youd be surprised.



Yah, ill agree here, apple seems to think humans are only born with one finger.


then again, Windows and even Linux can be repaired by an average user. Mac progs and hardware have to be sent in to corporate to fix. BAD BUSINESS|


Posted by Massive84 on Jan-12-2005 18:02:

i don't get it.

is it a mp3 player? or a pc :S


Posted by spiralhelix on Jan-13-2005 00:38:

quote:

is it a mp3 player? or a pc :S


it's two seperate things - one is an mp3 player, the other is a portable computer (BYO monitor, keyboard and mouse tho).


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-13-2005 06:03:

quote:
Originally posted by getfoul
point me to i river users who have never had any problems at all in a year and i will let your arguement stand.


2 years since I bought mine iHD 120 - no problems (knock on wood so far).

TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK!

P.S. Apple blowz. you're a consumer puppet. end of story.


Posted by Siang on Jan-13-2005 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
2 years since I bought mine iHD 120 - no problems (knock on wood so far).

TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK!

P.S. Apple blowz. you're a consumer puppet. end of story.


Wow, that arguement on how much apple blows is AMAZING! I see you did you research Mr.Non-Consumer. Please teach me in the ways of jumping on the band wagon like you.


Posted by fr0st on Jan-13-2005 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
2 years since I bought mine iHD 120 - no problems (knock on wood so far).

TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK!

P.S. Apple blowz. you're a consumer puppet. end of story.



i don't get it? Because i enjoy a operating system that makes me a muppet? What does that make you with your blind hate? In any case you are a follower of the same sort you have no reason to dislike the product other than to not be a "consumer puppet".


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-13-2005 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
you obviosly have never used logic on a mac platform. Also you failed to notice me saying this gives them a chance to test the platform its self of course they cant run 100 waves plugins. But it is a fine machine to run logic on. Until recently i was doing all my production on a 800mhz powerbook with 1gb of ram... Do not make asumptions when you have no fucking clue what your talking about....


Well... thanks, I guess... so much hostility and I don't believe I needed to resort to personal insults to make my point (or get under your skin).

P.S. OH, and there goes your chance to buy that Jupe 6 from me, f-n tosser.

EDIT: P.S.S. ...and to think I actually had some respect for you before...

P.S.S.S. When will this jew-on-jew violence end???


Posted by fr0st on Jan-13-2005 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
Well... thanks, I guess... so much hostility and I don't believe I needed to resort to personal insults to make my point (or get under your skin).

P.S. OH, and there goes your chance to buy that Jupe 6 from me, f-n tosser.

EDIT: P.S.S. ...and to think I actually had some respect for you before...


Well I did not mean it in a hostal way and for that I am sorry. But blin iggnorance does bother me. As for the jupiter 6 that is fine with me its your decision there are about 20,000 others that in all fairness could very well be in the same condition as yours or better. So it is not my loss but rather yours because I would have enjoyed making a transaction with a fellow TA and also in hearing a A/B comparison of a jupiter 6/8. But as you have shown the true colour of your personality id rather not do any bussiness with you and i will happily take my $1000 elsewhere.


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-13-2005 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Siang
Wow, that arguement on how much apple blows is AMAZING! I see you did you research Mr.Non-Consumer. Please teach me in the ways of jumping on the band wagon like you.


Well.. let's see.. I started programming pascal on Apple IIe, prior to that I used Mac in camp entire summer (since I was 14, we're talking 1991). My highschool was all macs and I spent about 50% of my free time fixing them and working with them (Apple Classic series). I then moved to 386-equivalent line of Macs, then supported PowerPC, etc. etc. etc...

Need I go on?

Look, your apple wouldn't exist if Mr. Bill Gates didn't inject close to $500 mill when Mac was on its death bed. And what did loyal Mac users say??? No, it wasn't "thank you" - it was more Bill-bashing.

Whatever.


Posted by CynepMeH on Jan-13-2005 06:23:

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
Well I did not mean it in a hostal way and for that I am sorry. But blin iggnorance does bother me. As for the jupiter 6 that is fine with me its your decision there are about 20,000 others that in all fairness could very well be in the same condition as yours or better. So it is not my loss but rather yours because I would have enjoyed making a transaction with a fellow TA and also in hearing a A/B comparison of a jupiter 6/8. But as you have shown the true colour of your personality id rather not do any bussiness with you and i will happily take my $1000 elsewhere.


Boo whoooo and now I'll go and cry myself to sleep... That's if I'll be able to get any.


Posted by fr0st on Jan-13-2005 06:25:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
Well.. let's see.. I started programming pascal on Apple IIe, prior to that I used Mac in camp entire summer (since I was 14, we're talking 1991). My highschool was all macs and I spent about 50% of my free time fixing them and working with them (Apple Classic series). I then moved to 386-equivalent line of Macs, then supported PowerPC, etc. etc. etc...

Need I go on?

Look, your apple wouldn't exist if Mr. Bill Gates didn't inject close to $500 mill when Mac was on its death bed. And what did loyal Mac users say??? No, it wasn't "thank you" - it was more Bill-bashing.

Whatever.


dont forget the windows operating system was heavly influenced by the mac OS. Notice the start menu and the apple share some similarities. I dont think either company could be where its at without the other..


Posted by getfoul on Jan-13-2005 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by CynepMeH
Well.. let's see.. I started programming pascal on Apple IIe, prior to that I used Mac in camp entire summer (since I was 14, we're talking 1991). My highschool was all macs and I spent about 50% of my free time fixing them and working with them (Apple Classic series). I then moved to 386-equivalent line of Macs, then supported PowerPC, etc. etc. etc...

Need I go on?

Look, your apple wouldn't exist if Mr. Bill Gates didn't inject close to $500 mill when Mac was on its death bed. And what did loyal Mac users say??? No, it wasn't "thank you" - it was more Bill-bashing.

Whatever.
Bill gates wouldnt exist if it werent for apple, and he only put 150 mil in non voting shares of stock.


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