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Posted by sandstorm03 on Jan-13-2005 03:12:

Re: Re: ASOT vs The Elites - Round II

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
What the fu*k?

Since when did not liking uncreative but popular pieces of Dutch epic tripe, a single subgenre out of dozens, mean I no longer like trance? Need I make this any clearer: I adore trance. That exactly why I am sometimes so vocal about the rising elements that I see suffocating its artistic progress.

(I'm on public computers for a few days, so expect -- and perhaps cherish -- my sporadic posts.)


stfu! asot 2005 is gonna kick butt


Posted by armandzadza on Jan-13-2005 03:26:

Re: ASOT vs The Elites - Round II

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
I'll spell it out for you. Its completely NATURAL for people to like different genres. Its completely NATURAL for people in one genre to not like another.


Can one genre not be artistically superior to another one?! Sure, you can like horror movies; however, do they have the same artistic value as art-house movies? I think not!

While artistic value is somewhat subjective (which is why critics sometimes disagree), there is a great degree of objectivity (which is why critics more often than not agree with each other). Ultimately, an experienced eye will separate the mediocre from the superior.

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
When you don't like a Genre you shut up about it.


Sure, because this surely cannot be a forum for discussion and constructive criticism. Instead, we should uniformally praise that with which the consensus is comfortable.

While we are at it, let us also engage in personal attacks. Why not? If we feel slighted by the good taste of a significant contributor to the board, why not just smear him? Trying to win a substantive argument takes too much effort!


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Jan-13-2005 05:12:

I like both sides and everyone needs to finally stfu about this.

Oh and inbefoda

Mods, please take note.


Posted by idoru on Jan-13-2005 06:07:

Re: Re: ASOT vs The Elites - Round II

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Since when did not liking uncreative but popular pieces of Dutch epic tripe, a single subgenre out of dozens, mean I no longer like trance? Need I make this any clearer: I adore trance. That exactly why I am sometimes so vocal about the rising elements that I see suffocating its artistic progress.


Very well-said.


Posted by E|ektrA on Jan-13-2005 07:45:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
but life always has the wannabes and that won't change. I have a g.f and a full time job, so I honestly don't give as much about music as I used to because life is full of other things.


we know you have a gf, you keep repeating it over and over and over again (a sure sign of insecurity)


Posted by Sid on Jan-13-2005 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by E|ektrA
we know you have a gf, you keep repeating it over and over and over again (a sure sign of insecurity)


classic


Posted by locutox on Jan-13-2005 10:19:

We're all a bunch of opionated assholes, now excuse me i'm going to watch B2K.


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 10:30:

Re: Re: ASOT vs The Elites - Round II

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
What the fu*k?

Since when did not liking uncreative but popular pieces of Dutch epic tripe, a single subgenre out of dozens, mean I no longer like trance? Need I make this any clearer: I adore trance. That exactly why I am sometimes so vocal about the rising elements that I see suffocating its artistic progress.

(I'm on public computers for a few days, so expect -- and perhaps cherish -- my sporadic posts.)


+1

I like trance. I dislike dutch anthem trance, I feel it is destroying the genre, so expect me to be damn loud about it.


Posted by RickyM on Jan-13-2005 11:06:

Re: Re: Re: ASOT vs The Elites - Round II

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
+1

I like trance. I dislike dutch anthem trance, I feel it is destroying the genre, so expect me to be damn loud about it.


Anthem Trance is class

I don't see how it is destroying the genre, just because it would be the most commercial sub genre of Trance.
Do explain how it is destroying the genre.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 11:32:

some of you guys are like a bunch of wanabe politicians arguing about world and life changing issues. why not spend your time doing something useful instead of trying to turn music into politics. their is a world outside of trance, and there is in fact more to life than internet forums and your musical preference, did you know that?


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-13-2005 11:38:

he has a point.

but it ain't gonna stop anything.

this is the intarwab, and geeks, nerds and n00bs will continue to use and abuse it.



(p.s. pics or stfu!)


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 11:43:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
he has a point.

but it ain't gonna stop anything.

this is the intarwab, and geeks, nerds and n00bs will continue to use and abuse it.



(p.s. pics or stfu!)


true but clearly peoples opinions on these boards are taken into account other wise there wouldnt be so much arguing in this place, so i thought i might as well post my feelings! =)


Posted by noikeee on Jan-13-2005 13:55:





Posted by MClarke on Jan-13-2005 14:37:

I think Subey has raised an important point. The fact that he�s taken the time to analyse & relate it to clarify the situation to people should be commended. The silly flame wars are lame and they are making extraneous divisions in the board.

Let this be the end of it.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jan-13-2005 15:15:


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT


yeah definately, you have a good point there, lets all learn from this


Posted by biznology on Jan-13-2005 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by MClarke
I think Subey has raised an important point. The fact that he�s taken the time to analyse & relate it to clarify the situation to people should be commended. The silly flame wars are lame and they are making extraneous divisions in the board.

Let this be the end of it.


he made a point that anyone with any common sense that has spent time on these boards could have seen. its a waste of time to continue posting about it. its just an over analytical reproduction of the crap that occurs over and over again. just ignore the shit and post construcively in constructive threads|


Posted by MClarke on Jan-13-2005 16:05:

i thought it was a problem, but i didnt realise so many people also thought it was. Im glad he brought it to light.


Posted by Az on Jan-13-2005 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
some of you guys are like a bunch of wanabe politicians arguing about world and life changing issues. why not spend your time doing something useful instead of trying to turn music into politics. their is a world outside of trance, and there is in fact more to life than internet forums and your musical preference, did you know that?

if constant ridicule stops even one person from supporting the shit that comes out, it's all been worth it


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
if constant ridicule stops even one person from supporting the shit that comes out, it's all been worth it


Yay. Someone understands me!


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
if constant ridicule stops even one person from supporting the shit that comes out, it's all been worth it


it doesnt tho, it just pisses people off and make them want to support it even more.

The thing thats most annoying, is that there are only like maybe 10 people who have attitudes as sour as yours.


Posted by Az on Jan-13-2005 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
it doesnt tho, it just pisses people off and make them want to support it even more

I've turned some of my best friends away from the shit they listened to, so it definately works


Posted by Ory on Jan-13-2005 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
I've turned some of my best friends away from the shit they listened to, so it definately works


Yeah, once they realise our music is more sophisticated, they'll want to switch.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Jan-13-2005 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
I've turned some of my best friends away from the shit they listened to, so it definately works


thats because they know you well enough know that if they dont like the same music as you you will spaz out and murder something.


Posted by nwopper on Jan-13-2005 17:53:

I like hardtrance
I like Dutch Epic Anthem Trance (that's currently destroying the scene. I know, the apocalypse is upon us, such disaster. Man, there isn't even Dutch Epic Anthem Trance around anymore!)

This is a good thread. Finally someone is getting it out what everybody (except the usual bunch with their heads so far up in their asses maybe) secretly thinks.


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