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Posted by Sevas Stra on Jan-13-2005 01:51:

this is more of an incentive to attack iran now muahahha


Posted by zig on Jan-13-2005 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Sevas Stra
this is more of an incentive to attack iran now muahahha


enlist immeaditaly..your country needs assholes


Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-13-2005 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Sevas Stra
this is more of an incentive to attack iran now muahahha


brilliant idea


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-13-2005 04:09:

Jester

lol fuckin bush supporters,this is a good kick in the face for them.
the whole world is laughing at them right now.

So whats next?they gonna go and say wmd are in Syria and the people there want democracy and we gonna go invade them?


I wonder what all those redneck scumbags who supported this war are thinking now?


Posted by St_Andrew on Jan-13-2005 04:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Wasn't this announced months ago? Oh, well, doesn't matter, it's nice to be reminded once again of being right.

Hmm, where are all my favorite right wingers on this forum now? Come, come, just give me one little "ok, we were wrong"...pleeeease?? Heh..heh...ha..haha...hahahaahahaaahahahahaahahaha!!!!!


lol i would like to see that too


Posted by Cyrus King on Jan-13-2005 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
lol fuckin bush supporters,this is a good kick in the face for them.
the whole world is laughing at them right now.

So whats next?they gonna go and say wmd are in Syria and the people there want democracy and we gonna go invade them?


I wonder what all those redneck scumbags who supported this war are thinking now?


the same vile idiots that have no functioning brain cells will probably beleive the 992347827497238942389 new lies this piece of shit admin will spew out and most likely support the war.. even though more than a thousand troops are dead and the coutnry is in chaos!!!!


GOOD JOB BUSH LOVERS!!!

P.S Izzy, Yoepus, Tiesto14, sppedgayracer where are those weapons that the us left wingers have constantly been telling you fromt he begining didnt exist?

AHAAHAHHAHAHAHHHHAHAHHAHH!!!


Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-13-2005 04:28:

Re: US gives up on WMD search

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
You stupid American idiots who were for this war becuase of these supposed "WMD" should go suck a dick.

P.S Smokekunt and Tiesto14.. stick it up your ass!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4169107.stm




How do you find time to post when you are always looking for black helicopters and microphones?

Anyway...i will respond to you...just for kicks...

I supported the war THEN and i support the war NOW...if you dig up my old posts about the war you will see that i ALSO backed the war because Hussein was a danger to his own people....i thought this in 1991 and i think it today. I will not say America is perfect, we have are share of wrong doings.

Hussein needed to be removed from power, along with his followers. He was an evil man who DID use WMD on the Kurns and Iran and lets not get into what he did to his OWN people.

WMD or not the man needed to go...i said it over 10 years ago...and i say it today...

And since i am SURE u wanted John Kerry in office over Bush...lets jsut take a fast look at what he had to say about Hussein...for the record of course.


"If You Don�t Believe Saddam Hussein Is A Threat With Nuclear Weapons, Then You Shouldn�t Vote For Me." (Ronald Brownstein, "On Iraq, Kerry Appears Either Torn Or Shrewd," Los Angeles Times, 1/31/03)

"[W]e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. He miscalculated an eight-year war with Iran. He miscalculated the invasion of Kuwait. He miscalculated America�s response to that act of naked aggression. He miscalculated the result of setting oil rigs on fire. He miscalculated the impact of sending scuds into Israel and trying to assassinate an American President. He miscalculated his own military strength. He miscalculated the Arab world�s response to his misconduct. And now he is miscalculating America�s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Georgetown University, Washington, DC, 1/23/03)

"It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that, left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world." (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171)

Do you need more? It sucks we didnt find any WMD...makes Bush look bad...but at least the Middle East is on its way to more peaceful countries...maybe not right now...but soon...

And before you go on about all the lifes lost...well thats what happens in war when u are trying to establish a free society...and to quote the US Navy Seals motto "The Needs of The Many - Far Outweigh The Needs of The Few".


Posted by Trancer-X on Jan-13-2005 04:28:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer


I wonder what all those redneck scumbags who supported this war are thinking now?


They're saying, "Dang, Cletus, we bin done lied to. Thems poleeticians are lowe'r den a snakes belly in a wagon rut!"



I tried, but I guess they probably wouldn't punctuate as well, though.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-13-2005 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
They're saying, "Dang, Cletus, we bin done lied to. Thems poleeticians are lowe'r den a snakes belly in a wagon rut!"



I tried, but I guess they probably wouldn't punctuate as well, though.



hahahahahah nice try still we need JM and smokeshit to talk like a true redneck now.


Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-13-2005 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
They're saying, "Dang, Cletus, we bin done lied to. Thems poleeticians are lowe'r den a snakes belly in a wagon rut!"



I tried, but I guess they probably wouldn't punctuate as well, though.



The funny thing about your ignorance is that the majority of Bush supporters are the top 1% of America...people that graduated Yale, Harvard, MIT, USC, UCLA etc etc...most of the CEOs, CFOs and board room members of the worlds biggest corporations, people that attend country clubs, and wine and dine in places you will never be able to valet park a car...yet you go on and on about how they can not speak right or are uneducated...tsk tsk..jealousy of the upper class just makes you look foolish and a tad bitter.


Posted by Cyrus King on Jan-13-2005 04:38:

Re: Re: US gives up on WMD search

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
How do you find time to post when you are always looking for black helicopters and microphones?

Anyway...i will respond to you...just for kicks...

I supported the war THEN and i support the war NOW...if you dig up my old posts about the war you will see that i ALSO backed the war because Hussein was a danger to his own people....i thought this in 1991 and i think it today. I will not say America is perfect, we have are share of wrong doings.

Hussein needed to be removed from power, along with his followers. He was an evil man who DID use WMD on the Kurns and Iran and lets not get into what he did to his OWN people.

WMD or not the man needed to go...i said it over 10 years ago...and i say it today...

And since i am SURE u wanted John Kerry in office over Bush...lets jsut take a fast look at what he had to say about Hussein...for the record of course.


"If You Don�t Believe Saddam Hussein Is A Threat With Nuclear Weapons, Then You Shouldn�t Vote For Me." (Ronald Brownstein, "On Iraq, Kerry Appears Either Torn Or Shrewd," Los Angeles Times, 1/31/03)

"[W]e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. He miscalculated an eight-year war with Iran. He miscalculated the invasion of Kuwait. He miscalculated America�s response to that act of naked aggression. He miscalculated the result of setting oil rigs on fire. He miscalculated the impact of sending scuds into Israel and trying to assassinate an American President. He miscalculated his own military strength. He miscalculated the Arab world�s response to his misconduct. And now he is miscalculating America�s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Georgetown University, Washington, DC, 1/23/03)

"It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that, left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world." (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02, p. S10171)

Do you need more? It sucks we didnt find any WMD...makes Bush look bad...but at least the Middle East is on its way to more peaceful countries...maybe not right now...but soon...

And before you go on about all the lifes lost...well thats what happens in war when u are trying to establish a free society...and to quote the US Navy Seals motto "The Needs of The Many - Far Outweigh The Needs of The Few".


OHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOW its about Saddam !!! Well guess what.. The Mullahs are gaining power in iraq now. The nation bush infamously added to the "axis of evil". Not only have you caused more shit in that reagion... but now you face even greater danger in that region. The whole population is at risk. Nothing positive has been accomplished. Removing saddam has and will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Its funny how a year ago when the American news networks thought they found some weapons storage you were jumping up and downin your posts and calling everyone names. Look whose laughing now bitch!

More troops will die becuase of MORONS like you!


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-13-2005 04:39:

Re: Re: US gives up on WMD search

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
but at least the Middle East is on its way to more peaceful countries...maybe not right now...but soon...


keep on dreaming.They will be more peaceful once America gets the fuck out.

in the mean time the American death toll will rise.


Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-13-2005 04:42:

Re: Re: Re: US gives up on WMD search

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
OHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOW its about Saddam !!! Well guess what.. The Mullahs are gaining power in iraq now. The nation bush infamously added to the "axis of evil". Not only have you caused more shit in that reagion... but now you face even greater danger in that region. The whole population is at risk. Nothing positive has been accomplished. Removing saddam has and will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Its funny how a year ago when the American news networks thought they found some weapons storage you were jumping up and downin your posts and calling everyone names. Look whose laughing now bitch!

More troops will die becuase of MORONS like you!



anyway....

As i am sure you have noticed this past year...i dont bother posting anymore.....you wont change my point of view...and i clearly will never change yours...

i know you cant...but i can agree to disagree..and thats all i have to say...you can claim defeat....i know it makes you look better...so go right ahead...

cya pal!


Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-13-2005 04:44:

Re: Re: Re: US gives up on WMD search

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
keep on dreaming.They will be more peaceful once America gets the fuck out.



Like when we left Cambodia? Haiti? etc


quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
in the mean time the American death toll will rise.


They are soldiers...we are at war...it sucks to say...but that is their job...if i dont want to be burned, i wont become a chef.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-13-2005 04:55:





Posted by Cal on Jan-13-2005 06:20:

hahaha speedgayracer

its funny cuz hes got an std


Posted by Trancer-X on Jan-13-2005 10:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
The funny thing about your ignorance is that the majority of Bush supporters are the top 1% of America...people that graduated Yale, Harvard, MIT, USC, UCLA etc etc...most of the CEOs, CFOs and board room members of the worlds biggest corporations, people that attend country clubs, and wine and dine in places you will never be able to valet park a car...yet you go on and on about how they can not speak right or are uneducated...tsk tsk..jealousy of the upper class just makes you look foolish and a tad bitter.


The majority of Bush supporters could never be 1% of anything, that's just a contradiction in itself. Certainly he was supported by a good majority of Corporate America, which is partially comprised of that uber-elite 1% (whom he in fact called "his base"), but that's not the majority of his supporters. What he calls "his base" are the media moguls, the oil company execs, the bankers, military armament company execs from Lockheed, Boeing, etc. - the big dogs that pull those heavy capitalistic strings. Most of them are Republican to begin with.


Anyway, I live in a wealthy Democratic state and have been to those country clubs. So much for your assumptions.


Please get your facts straight before you post, son.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-13-2005 12:48:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Best $120+ billion and 1300+ American lives we've ever spent. Let's take a breather for a year and then for shits and giggles go spelunking across the Iranian border.

/cue the "I looked everywhere, but I just couldn't find those WMD under my couch" jokes



Posted by erdega on Jan-13-2005 15:03:

was Bush & Co arrogant in that he just wanted to capture Saddam and seize the oilfields and he didn't care for a reason or excuse or was he just ignorant of the weapons inspectors and even sattelite images that couldn't find those bombs , not to mention complete air supremacy that Us had and he went anyway because "god" told him or something. Both posibilities are not good for his image or American foreign policy.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Jan-13-2005 18:05:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
The funny thing about your ignorance is that the majority of Bush supporters are the top 1% of America...people that graduated Yale, Harvard, MIT, USC, UCLA etc etc...most of the CEOs, CFOs and board room members of the worlds biggest corporations, people that attend country clubs, and wine and dine in places you will never be able to valet park a car...yet you go on and on about how they can not speak right or are uneducated...tsk tsk..jealousy of the upper class just makes you look foolish and a tad bitter.


Hmm, if majority of his supporters were the top 1% of America, then he must have pulled a damn good election fraud considering that less than 2% of people voted for him. Hell in reality he even may have lost to Nader!

Anyways, yes, the corporate big guys did vote for him, however they did not do that because they support his international policies, but they did it because he made huge tax cuts for the rich people and large corporations. They'd vote for anyone who'd do such a thing.

Now, as far as your comments about the war, I really don't see how American intervention helped out the people in Iraq considering that we see about 20 or so civilians killed every day in suicide attacks. I do agree that it would be pointless to pull out now since the new regime has not yet been installed, but the intervention certainly resulted in bringing about more harm than good. The US forces will have to stay in there for 10 years at least if they want the nation to regain its stability once again.

As for gassing of the Kurds and attacking Iran, well, guess who sold Iraq their chemical weapons, and guess who gave Iraq false data on Iranian military capabilities that portrayed their army to be easily beatable by that of Iraq? Why, the US! And guess who was in charge of those operations at the time? Why it was Rumsfeld!


Posted by ResonantDrag on Jan-13-2005 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
The funny thing about your ignorance is that the majority of Bush supporters are the top 1% of America...people that graduated Yale, Harvard, MIT, USC, UCLA etc etc...most of the CEOs, CFOs and board room members of the worlds biggest corporations, people that attend country clubs, and wine and dine in places you will never be able to valet park a car...yet you go on and on about how they can not speak right or are uneducated...tsk tsk..jealousy of the upper class just makes you look foolish and a tad bitter.


you forgot the mathematicians... of wait, maybe they didn't support bush.

and i thought the democrats were the elitists that lost this election.


Posted by Cal on Jan-13-2005 19:27:

Hah the majority of people that voted for dubya are rednecks from jesusland, tiesto. You must have seen this before.



So how does it feel to have the same political stance as someone like this guy?


Or this guy?

You know what, maybe you three can get together for an educated conversation about US foreign policy and after the moonshine runs out you can bust out the banjoes and have a hoedown about how the south will rise again.


Posted by zig on Jan-13-2005 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
Hah the majority of people that voted for dubya are rednecks from jesusland, tiesto. You must have seen this before.



So how does it feel to have the same political stance as someone like this guy?


Or this guy?

You know what, maybe you three can get together for an educated conversation about US foreign policy and after the moonshine runs out you can bust out the banjoes and have a hoedown about how the south will rise again.


LOL..Reminds me of that movie Deliverence..great movie nice soundtrack as well..lots of bangos..and plenty of rednecks..


Posted by tiesto14 on Jan-13-2005 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
Hah the majority of people that voted for dubya are rednecks from jesusland, tiesto. You must have seen this before.



So how does it feel to have the same political stance as someone like this guy?


Or this guy?

You know what, maybe you three can get together for an educated conversation about US foreign policy and after the moonshine runs out you can bust out the banjoes and have a hoedown about how the south will rise again.



Patently absurd....To say everyone who voted for Bush is what you depict above...

I voted for Bush and yet i am not a follower of Jesus, Christianity or any other religion, your stereotypes are what perpetuate hate, racism, bigotry and ignorance.


Posted by Shakka on Jan-13-2005 19:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal
So how does it feel to have the same political stance as someone like this guy?



Probably about the same as it feels for you to have to identify yourself with Jesse Jackson and Ted Kennedy.


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