Do the bad guys ever win in movies?

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Posted by RobbyG. on Jan-14-2005 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
You mean Anakin becomes a bad guy?!?!?! OMG no way! You ruined the ending

Damn I hope I didn't ruin it for people who haven't seen the other Star Wars

Posted by jdjd on Jan-14-2005 17:38:

Seven
Last Samurai

Posted by maxpain on Jan-14-2005 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
The Usual Suspects.

The Usual Suspects was an amazing movie which slipped my mind and apparently there will be a sequel entitled "Where Is Seizer Kozae" or something to that nature. I like how he told off the cops as he was leaving the station and when he was getting away I was cheering hardcore because he fooled them all and a pure bad guy finally won That movie goes to show you that the real strong act weak to catch you by suprise and have you underestimate them and the weak act strong because they really aren't and have something to prove because they are trying to convince themselves. There is a difference between knowing you are good and thinking that you are good.

I believe that the bad guys won in Natural Born Killers as well

Posted by maxpain on Jan-14-2005 20:06:

Sometimes when they have the bad guy winning they try to show you some good or noble part of the bad guy character so they even make the bad guy look good in a way sometimes which is bullshit and I want to see some more pure evil characters win sometimes instead of the same predictable good guy winning crap

We need more movies like Hannibal,The Silence Of The Lambs and The Usual Suspects

Posted by EvilDust on Jan-14-2005 20:44:

How bout Michael Corleone in Godfather 1 and 2?
Come to think of it, everyone in those movies were bad guys...

Posted by maxpain on Jan-14-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilDust
How bout Michael Corleone in Godfather 1 and 2?
Come to think of it, everyone in those movies were bad guys...

In part 1 Michael's brother get shot to death and in part 2 Michael reluctantly gets his brother whacked and goes through a divorce while The Don Vito Carleone gets screwed over as a kid and comes back when he is older to kill the ****** and in part 3 his daughter gets shot and at the end and Michael is left all by himself after his dad and brothers are all dead (both brothers murdered) and he has a murdered daughter and only a son left and no wife.

Basically everyone was a bad guy but they showed you the good side of them as well which is bullshit because they should have pure evil guys winning in the end of movies sometimes instead of this half assed shit where a bad guy wins every once in a blue moon but they still show some good side to the character so he doesn't turn out to be a real bad guy afterall

Posted by StereoPrincess on Jan-14-2005 21:00:

for the second time

EDIT THE TITLE.

its too late for me now but not for others.

Posted by nycionx on Jan-14-2005 21:04:

arlington road

Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-14-2005 21:33:

Ronin...

I don't think there really are "good guys" in that movie.

My favourite movie of all time. Best car chase scenes in movie history, I think. Pure awesomeness.

Posted by maxpain on Jan-14-2005 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Ronin...

I don't think there really are "good guys" in that movie.

My favourite movie of all time. Best car chase scenes in movie history, I think. Pure awesomeness.

I just bought Ronin, Kalifornia and Road House recently on boxing day for like $20 from HMV and the only one I have watched so far is Road House so Ronin should be good

Posted by n!kola on Jan-14-2005 22:47:

The Fast and the Furious.....vin diesel is a "bad guy" in the movie...

Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Jan-14-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by eL_diab7o
The Fast and the Furious.....vin diesel is a bad guy in the movie...

lol..

I was thinking "The Life of David Gale" but i'm not even sure-- too much to recall atm

Posted by arek on Jan-14-2005 23:02:

last samurai, tom cruise chops his own head off with a sword.

Posted by DigiNut on Jan-14-2005 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
- Fight Club
- Primal Fear

Two of the best movies ever made in that list, too.

Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-14-2005 23:28:

umm did everyone forget or something?

this is the only movie where the good guy gets killed at the end and doesnt get the girl and doesnt achieve his dream cause hes killed by billy from the bronx when he's 2 secs away from achieviong it

Posted by Ub3rBreaker on Jan-14-2005 23:29:

what about Momentum?

Is that how u spell it?

Posted by amb_ on Jan-14-2005 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy

umm did everyone forget or something?

this is the only movie where the good guy gets killed at the end and doesnt get the girl and doesnt achieve his dream cause hes killed by billy from the bronx when he's 2 secs away from achieviong it

Excellent film

Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-15-2005 00:37:

Riddick ?

i think bald pornstars win in their movies too ..

Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Jan-15-2005 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ub3rTrancer
what about Momentum?

Is that how u spell it?

Memento.

And previously about some bronx flick,
I guess Empires would also qualify?

Posted by Tunnel Rat on Jan-15-2005 01:40:

Dead Man Walking ... where the bad guy becomes good, but gets executed in the end.

Posted by Sly_Guy on Jan-15-2005 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ++ EGO ++
Memento.

Fantastic movie.

What about Pi? I don't know if the bad guys won, but the protagonist took a power drill to his own brain....

Posted by n!kola on Jan-15-2005 03:18:

Payback (Mel Gibson)
Young guns (billy the kid is an outlaw)
Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels ...

Posted by Slag on Jan-15-2005 04:00:

The Score
Sleepers

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-15-2005 07:31:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
like 5 movies are ruined for me now.

thanks!!

Posted by bluE_Neon on Jan-15-2005 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by brunette
But there's a lot of unpredictable, original films, so look them up.

Those kind of movies are usually the European ones Where no Hollywood is visible but the the essence of real acting is required!

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