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-- Jon O'Bir - Essential Mix @ Radio 1 (16.01.2005)
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Posted by [Oliver Noir] on Jan-16-2005 04:39:

really enjoyed this essential mix! was very nice jon finished his set with one of my fav moon project tunes "moments are forever"! both thumbs up 4 jon o�bir!


Posted by klago on Jan-16-2005 08:54:

Can someone please put this up on soulseek or ftp?

Thanks,

k


Posted by Freezel on Jan-16-2005 09:28:

This looks awesome


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Jan-16-2005 11:33:

when are people going to learn to leave tracks alone...

netherworld,
fancy fair
viola
save me
sincere
affinity
silence

whats next


Posted by nj roddy on Jan-16-2005 13:10:

1/4 of his tunes were old or remakes of old poor attempt


Posted by neoraver on Jan-16-2005 13:20:

Re: Jon O'Bir - Essential Mix @ Radio 1 (16.01.2005)

quote:
Originally posted by cjart
And thatz our TL:

18. DJ Vesiga vs Jomar - 'Night Operator' (Five AM)




Posted by anuga on Jan-16-2005 14:26:

Just got The Release gone cue the sucker


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-16-2005 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
1/4 of his tunes were old or remakes of old poor attempt


3 out of 19 does not make 1/4. I agree that these remakes are starting to REALLY take the piss though. Especially when the tracks are 2 fucking years old.

Back on topic: Was a nice mix, and despite its boring parts it never went straight to fluff hell like I was afraid it would. Added points for ending on Moon Project as well.


Posted by nj roddy on Jan-16-2005 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
3 out of 19 does not make 1/4. I agree that these remakes are starting to REALLY take the piss though. Especially when the tracks are 2 fucking years old.

Back on topic: Was a nice mix, and despite its boring parts it never went straight to fluff hell like I was afraid it would. Added points for ending on Moon Project as well.


OLD OR REMAKES ARE THE FOLLOWING....

04. Midtone - 'Pearl' (Duty Free)
09. LSG - 'Netherworld 2005' [Oliver Prime Remix] (J00F)
10. Firewall - 'Sincere [Smith & Pledger 2005 Remix] (Lange)
12. Hydra - 'Affinity' [Menno de Jong 2005 Remix] (Adjusted)
19. Moon project - 'Moments Are Forever' (Bonzai Ltd)


5 OUT OF 19 MAKES OVER A 1/4 TO ME


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-16-2005 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
OLD OR REMAKES ARE THE FOLLOWING....

04. Midtone - 'Pearl' (Duty Free)
09. LSG - 'Netherworld 2005' [Oliver Prime Remix] (J00F)
10. Firewall - 'Sincere [Smith & Pledger 2005 Remix] (Lange)
12. Hydra - 'Affinity' [Menno de Jong 2005 Remix] (Adjusted)
19. Moon project - 'Moments Are Forever' (Bonzai Ltd)


5 OUT OF 19 MAKES OVER A 1/4 TO ME


Since when were Pearl and Moon Project remakes? If it's playing oldies in a set you're pissed off about then say so. An old tune and a remake are two quite different things.


Posted by nj roddy on Jan-16-2005 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
1/4 of his tunes were old or remakes of old poor attempt


look at my original post i said "OLD or REMAKES"


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-16-2005 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
look at my original post i said "OLD or REMAKES"


I noticed. I edited it to point out that putting playing an old tune and playing a remake into the same box is quite ridiculous, since they are two vastly different things.


Posted by nj roddy on Jan-16-2005 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I noticed. I edited it to point out that putting playing an old tune and playing a remake into the same box is quite ridiculous, since they are two vastly different things.


obviously old tracks and remakes are different things

but i put them in the same ball park because for me if a dj plays loads of old tracks or remakes of old tracks that tells me either the dj is living in past glories, they cant be arsed to find new tracks, or the genre is so shit no good new tunes are being made.....

hope i cleared it up for you


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-16-2005 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
obviously old tracks and remakes are different things

but i put them in the same ball park because for me if a dj plays loads of old tracks or remakes of old tracks that tells me either the dj is living in past glories, they cant be arsed to find new tracks, or the genre is so shit no good new tunes are being made.....

hope i cleared it up for you


Ahh I see. Well let's break this down:

Midtone - Pearl came out in 2002, so that's hardly an oldie per se. For instance, nobody complained when Dave Clarke dropped several tunes that were 2-3 years old in his EM. Moon Project - Moments Are Forever is. However, dropping one old tune in a set has never been frowned upon, and why would it be? A glance backwards now and then is always appreciated from what I've seen and heard.

Then there's all the remakes, which indeed indicate that the business itself is running low on ideas. That however, has nothing in common with the one classic and the slightly old tune that Jon played in this set, which is why I don't really agree with you putting them into the same box of "crimes" as playing all these remakes.


Posted by nj roddy on Jan-16-2005 15:59:

fair enough mate thats your opinion......

but if i was doin the world famous essential mix for me its a stamp in history for that time in that particlar genre, so i would not be playing old tunes at all or remakes as its not a good advertisment for you as a dj or the genre.... this is his time to shine to the wolrd so maybe if u wanna finish on a classic fair enough but pearl and all the remakes no need, are u tellin me he could of not found 'new' better tunes to replace them in the set

if not, then trance is in the shit


Posted by Sand Leaper on Jan-16-2005 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by nj roddy
fair enough mate thats your opinion......

but if i was doin the world famous essential mix for me its a stamp in history for that time in that particlar genre, so i would not be playing old tunes at all or remakes as its not a good advertisment for you as a dj or the genre.... this is his time to shine to the wolrd so maybe if u wanna finish on a classic fair enough but pearl and all the remakes no need, are u tellin me he could of not found 'new' better tunes to replace them in the set


Well you can't really fault him regarding freshness of the tunes in this set. Apart from Netherworld and the two previously mentioned, none of the tunes are out yet (except for Nightoperator, but he played the Five AM release, which isn't out as far as I know).

He's not the only one dropping oldies in an EM either. Just look at King Unique (Tangerine Dream), Danny Rampling (Hardfloor - Acperience) or Blackstrobe (Jeff Mills - The Bells). The EM isn't about playing all the hottest new tunes, believe it or not. It never was. You're right about one thing though..

quote:
trance is in the shit


..which explains all the remakes.


Posted by 303 on Jan-16-2005 16:55:

kickass set Jon! totally kickass.


Posted by Mindbreezer on Jan-16-2005 20:29:

I need to hear this set


Posted by mentalbarter on Jan-16-2005 23:11:

dropping oldies makes a set for me
i always wanna hear a few old tunes, be they classics or not
who says a dj only gotta play new shit? especially when theyre aint much good new shit


Posted by anuga on Jan-17-2005 15:31:

sorry for the long overdue cuesheet, something came up
http://tracklists.anuga.se/?id=95
there it is anyway


Posted by bagguley on Jan-17-2005 21:57:

Great to see Jon still doing so well...

It shows character as a DJ when you drop a few older tracks in.. anyone can play 2 hours of super upfront music now available readily from the net... It takes a DJ to mix that up with some older stuff...

Great set Jon..


Posted by cjart on Jan-17-2005 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by bagguley
Great to see Jon still doing so well...

It shows character as a DJ when you drop a few older tracks in.. anyone can play 2 hours of super upfront music now available readily from the net... It takes a DJ to mix that up with some older stuff...

Great set Jon..


^ word Andy


Posted by Siesta on Jan-17-2005 23:24:

very very very cool he played moon project, its still an amazing track


Posted by Nitrogliserin on Jan-18-2005 22:02:

wonderful set by jon o bir.

tracks and mixing are nearly perfect.
this will be one of my fav set in year 2005


Posted by YO-I on Jan-18-2005 23:38:

one of the best sets, im relly kike it


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