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Posted by sigmanova on Jan-16-2005 18:40:

oh and the original poster asked for some recommendations, not for a music genre discussion or why people's taste in music is wrong compared to another...sad how this thread quickly degenerated


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 18:43:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You think you're precious classic trance never topped a dance chart? Several track have made it to widespread play, you say?


Well I don't know about you're classic trance, but your classic trance has. Yeah, several tracks have made to widespread play. And the genres they represent are structurally no different. Therefore are also pop.

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I live in Britain, which is the country where EDM has the highest profile anywhere in the world. In a year where dance music spent 10 weeks at number one and we had Top 10 albums by The Prodigy, Fatboy Slim, Faithless and Groove Armada, epic trance barely made a dent on the radio or TV.


Yeah, that's all pop music.

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Say what you like, music does not become pop just because it appears on MTV. There is a distinctive genre of music that is only definable by the term "pop". That is pop music. Anything else is not pop music. It is as simple as that, and your mardy elitist rants to the contrary are wrong.


All music that gets air time on MTV is pop music. Pop is inded a subgenre, but it's also an abbreviation for popular music. Aka pop punk, pop rock, pop trance etc. This is the pop i'm using.

Though I don't know what makes you so defensive in calling me some kind of elitist because I call a music pop music...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 18:46:

Every single genre of music has had a Top 40 entry. If what you say is true, all music is pop music. Therefore making your use of the word totally pointless.

My point was that dance music is more commercially involved now than ever, yet trance remains one of the least commercially popular genres.


Posted by Subey on Jan-16-2005 18:49:

Plummet - Damaged (steve murano Mix)
It's exactly what you are looking for!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 18:51:

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Originally posted by [PCO]sigmanova
oh and the original poster asked for some recommendations, not for a music genre discussion or why people's taste in music is wrong compared to another...sad how this thread quickly degenerated


Our discussion has more value and merit than endless lists of tracks because someone is too bloody lazy to develop their own musical taste.


Posted by mto on Jan-16-2005 18:51:

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Originally posted by DickieThijssen
I hope you're not saying that's not the best trance song of all time... Just because its popular, you think it sucks... Well, the vocals are simply the best i've ever heard, and the bassline is the most original ive ever heard


You're fuckin' kiddin' right? No offense, but that cannot be the best trance ever and it is not the most original bassline.


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 18:55:

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Originally posted by Radagast
Aka pop punk, pop rock, pop trance etc. This is the pop i'm using.


Exactly. Now, I'm not really into the genre of rock music and such... but I can say that all punk is not pop. Punk can be pop, though. Good Charlotte style bands... I'd say that's pop punk. But that doesn't make all punk pop.


Posted by Ory on Jan-16-2005 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Our discussion has more value and merit than endless lists of tracks because someone is too bloody lazy to develop their own musical taste.


You're right there. Like I've said before, these threads are pointless, as the only tunes listed are already overhyped. So really, what's the point?


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Every single genre of music has had a Top 40 entry. If what you say is true, all music is pop music. Therefore making your use of the word totally pointless.


Yeah every genre has, but not every subgenre. So not totally pointless. And Dance only charts don't count.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Yeah every genre has, but not every subgenre. So not totally pointless. And Dance only charts don't count.


Almost every sub-genre. The number of sub-genres that haven't charted is much less than the number of sub-genres that have.


Posted by nwopper on Jan-16-2005 19:21:

I forgot two vocaltracks

Way Out West - Mindcircus (Gabriel & Dresden rmx)
Deepsky - Talk Like A Stranger (Markus Schulz back to Coldharbour Mix)

This thread was about vocaltracks right?


Posted by DickieThijssen on Jan-16-2005 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by mto
You're fuckin' kiddin' right? No offense, but that cannot be the best trance ever and it is not the most original bassline.

Well i was exagerrating just to make my point of course...

This is my point:
Firstly ATRC was played by djs and everybody wanted the setrip and everybody was like OMFG this is top quality, then it got a video clip and stuff and everybody hated the track instantly. I didnt understand... As imo ATRC is not commercial trance (though they made lots of money with it), and it certainly is not cheese...


Posted by mto on Jan-16-2005 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
Well i was exagerrating just to make my point of course...

This is my point:
Firstly ATRC was played by djs and everybody wanted the setrip and everybody was like OMFG this is top quality, then it got a video clip and stuff and everybody hated the track instantly. I didnt understand... As imo ATRC is not commercial trance (though they made lots of money with it), and it certainly is not cheese...


Okay, i kinda see your point.. but here is my opinion. First, ATRC is not really "trance". Second, I never saw much in this track from day one.. which is fine as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, as it was pointed out in this thread.. the track itself is not very strong on the production side as public hypes it up to be. It is not weak of course, but it is nothing special. I think that the vocals actually made this track, but that the lyrics are horrid. Anyways, this is so 2003. Lets forget about it shall we?


Posted by Radagast on Jan-16-2005 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Almost every sub-genre. The number of sub-genres that haven't charted is much less than the number of sub-genres that have.


And what trance subgenres besides epic trance have charted in the top 20 on any music chart nearly as consistently?


Posted by Jarjar on Jan-16-2005 20:08:

Cinereal - Another Day (Empyreal Sun remix)
Fuckin amazing! A bit on the cheesy side of trance, but still amazing.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-16-2005 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
And what trance subgenres besides epic trance have charted in the top 20 on any music chart nearly as consistently?


The relevance of that question? You said any music with radio and TV play is designed for popular consumption, and almost every sub-genre of music has done those things, and had a Top 40 entry. Therefore, almost all music is pop music. If you start bringing comparative references in, your argument falls flat on its face, as comparative to almost all styles of music with Top 40 entries today, trance is very unpopular.


Posted by alieu on Jan-17-2005 23:23:

ON TOPIC!!

Tension feat. Julie Harrington - Lost in you [Will Holland and Joe Thompson remix]
Aurora - In My Skin (Vincent De Moor Remix) (old, but not released i think)
Enmass - So Please
Dreamscape feat. Thea Gilmore - We Will See [Gladiator Remix]
Lingen and Moore - Passion [Robert Nickson Vocal]
Mind One - Star For Me [Original Vocal Mix]
Reflekt feat. Delline Bass - Need to Feel Loved (Thrillseekers Remix) |-one of my favourites in 2004!!
Signum ft. Anita Kelsey - Come Around Again |-Great tune!!
Paul van Dyk vs. Second Sun - Crush [Original Vocal Mix] |-Love it!


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