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Posted by failsafe on Jan-17-2005 22:41:

what does charachter do to the effect?

Posted by sleepydragon on Jan-17-2005 23:10:

on a positive note it might bring the price of the efx500 down abit
or maybe thats just wishfull thinking i think it might be actually.

Posted by Laszlo on Jan-17-2005 23:13:

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-17-2005 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
on a positive note it might bring the price of the efx500 down abit
or maybe thats just wishfull thinking i think it might be actually.

Yeah, although pioneer has already claimed that the efx500 is still their dj unit. The 1000 is more geared twords producers.

By the way, you are aware that they are releasing a new version of the efx500 right? EFX500R

Its just a red version, but they are releasing it to show that they dont plan for the 500 to become obsolete.

Posted by tubby on Jan-17-2005 23:52:

and now the djm1000 is announced.

http://www.pioneerprodjforums.com/u...sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-17-2005 23:55:

yup.

Not nearly as exciting as the 500r

I still say the efx500sw owns the efx500r

(sw was that translucent version)

BTW... I was expecting a 4 channel 909 or something...that thing kind of seems like a pioneer version of an allen and heath mixer (like a mesh of the 92, and 464...)

Posted by DannyO on Jan-18-2005 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by tubby
and now the djm1000 is announced.

http://www.pioneerprodjforums.com/u...sb=5&o=&fpart=1

WTF is that?

I was also expecting a 4 channel 909, unless they have another mixer in the works.

Posted by tubby on Jan-18-2005 00:16:

with no efx or sampler it looks like it's going head to head with A&H. Who's going to be able to afford that beast plus efx1000 other than club installations?

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-18-2005 00:29:

Heres the thing, pioneer is not known for extremely good sound quality, or reliability.

Allen and Heath are.

I dont know why they are trying to take on that market. If its guts are anything like the 600 it wont be extremely reliable.

As far as sound quality goes, I would hope they have improved it, seeing as they did with the efx1000.

I still think this is a poor move.

Posted by tubby on Jan-18-2005 00:34:

sound quality is the biggest gripe people have with the 600, so it would be suicide to try and compete in installations if they haven't improved that part of the design. 6 channels as well as sound quality, this thing is going to be expensive

Posted by Tegu on Jan-18-2005 05:28:

bah

i'd rather have my dnx1500 over that pioneer djm1000 any day

and it doesn't look like theyr'e trying to target the bedroom dj/producer market at all with that new mixer either seeing it has that slanted/club-rack ready design and no efx or sampler

and you're right, with average sound quality pioneer has no place in the club
for club installation, it's all about the cloud!

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-18-2005 06:05:

Plus one of the head pio guys on the board said he beleives it will retail for around 2500.

Posted by Vlad on Jan-18-2005 07:39:

Waste of money IMO.

Posted by tu_face on Jan-18-2005 09:08:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
I dont understand what youre saying?

Doesnt the efx500 only go up to 1 bar? The highest I can see on the efx500 is a 4/1 button. Isnt this 1 bar?

The EFX1000 goes up to 8/1 isnt this two bars?

I dont see a four bar button on either units.

hang on, i really need to re-lubricate my brain before use. you're right

Posted by djmarkpappas on Jan-20-2005 18:17:

ok well i started a new thread about this since i didnt see this one...anyway i got to use it last Sat when i opened for deep dish, they had a prototype..thing is fucking insane...the humanizer effect and the vodoer are sick...definetly a fun toy...

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-20-2005 18:30:

Well, we've all heard a vocoder effect before, but how was the humanizer effect? What does it do? make robot voices sound human?

Posted by tu_face on Jan-20-2005 19:27:

just googled it, apparently it recreates human vowel sounds, i.e. a, e, i, o, u. probably does it with filters or something...

Posted by webbie on Mar-29-2005 11:47:

There is two vids of Zabiela in action with it here:
http://homepage.mac.com/jameszabiela/FileSharing13.html

Altho i cant make out whats so good about it from thoose vids.

Posted by Freak on Mar-29-2005 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu

and you're right, with average sound quality pioneer has no place in the club
for club installation, it's all about the cloud!

A man after my own heart
i use a cloud several nighs a week- it is one of the best club mixers ever.period.
A friend has one at home, and he is toying with the notion of selling it to me.... cant wait.

as for the EFX:

the only MAJOR thing i can see that offers over my existing efx500 is the 2 bar loop as opposed to being stuck with one bar now. Very useful.
Other than that, i think it was a big mistake getting rid of the three band eq- especially as when playing back a loop, the eq only affected the dry signal from the mixer, not the loop... useful

And the price is just nuts in comparison!
Will be nice to try it soon....

Posted by RJT on Nov-17-2005 05:35:

So anyone have any reviews of this thing yet?

Thinking maybe for Christmas I may treat myself to this... if not, for sure a 500... rather than start a new thread, I thought maybe any of you guys who've now used both can offer any input... I'm curreently running CDJ 800's and an Allen & Heath Xone 62...

Posted by _-MIl0 on Nov-17-2005 20:01:

In my opinion it would be well worth it to get one of these. I have the 500 and i get a bit frustrated with the limitations it has on it (for example only going up to 4 beats) Defently thinking about getting one of these but first gonna be investing in getting the 909 Looks like a sweet mixer. As for the difference in sound quality lets all be honest Inside of a club wheres theres so much background noise and reverb ect. Ur not really gonna be paying attention and/or notice The difference in sound quality between the two. Except maby if ur in japan. Those clubs r crazy good.

Posted by razzi on Nov-17-2005 22:56:

considering the efx500 is a staple in most clubs.. how much of a difference will the sound quality be? sure itll sound cleaner, but with all the noise/reverb/distortion in alot of clubs anyawy, i dont think its a huge deal. however, the quality is important if youre going to use this for producing.

in general though, after playing with both the efx500/1000 and kaoss pad 2, you can be way more creative with the kp2. one of the biggest arguments for the efx is that you can 'duplicate a sound over and over again'. sure that can be a good thing.. but considering 10,000 djs use the same efx with the same effects (and the good combos being used all the time) the 'duplicated sound' gets old... in my opinion at least. the kp2 gives you alot of freedom, and its hella fun to mess aound with the touch pad and really manipulate some tracks.

razzi.

Posted by elektrikal on Nov-18-2005 02:27:

I don't know where a lot of you are getting these price quotes from but it retails $800 tops and is sick. I have been using it for a little time now and am in love w/ it. Adds a lotta depth to a set. Shouldn't be used to detract from track selection but instead help songs sound different than original and liven them up.

Posted by Trogdor on Nov-26-2005 07:51:

quote:
Originally posted by elektrikal
I don't know where a lot of you are getting these price quotes from but it retails $800 tops and is sick.
It can be had for less than $700.

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