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Originally posted by Slylee kinda pisses me off when female dj's actually get gigs, and then use sex to promote themselves. i mean seriously, spinning topless?

Yeah. That is lame, but it's also lame that it's very difficult for an unattractive girl to make it as a dj.

I guess I�m way off, but I would have thought that it would be kinda easier for a female to get DJ gigs because it�s pretty rare for girls to be into that you know? I (obviously) haven�t gotten to a point where I�m looking for gigs, but for some reason, I just don�t see it being that difficult. I mean, if you have a lot of contacts, and if you�re really big in the scene (wherever you live) and you have the personality and meet the right people, then it should be pretty easy to get your foot in the door at least. everyone is always like, "man it's so HARD to get gigs, bla bla bla." kinda like everyone saying how HARD it is to learn how to beatmatch/mix and how it took them a year to get decent...not to brag or anything but i've only practiced on my friend's tables a few times and i wasn't perfect or anything, but every other song or so, i mixed it fine. seems like maybe people talk it up a lot to discourage other people. haters!

i want to audition them. everyone can beatmatch i'm more interested in the 'intangibles'

yea that'd be about the only way you'd have a chance!

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Originally posted by Slylee yea that'd be about the only way you'd have a chance!

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Originally posted by Slylee I guess I�m way off, but I would have thought that it would be kinda easier for a female to get DJ gigs because it�s pretty rare for girls to be into that you know? I (obviously) haven�t gotten to a point where I�m looking for gigs, but for some reason, I just don�t see it being that difficult. I mean, if you have a lot of contacts, and if you�re really big in the scene (wherever you live) and you have the personality and meet the right people, then it should be pretty easy to get your foot in the door at least. everyone is always like, "man it's so HARD to get gigs, bla bla bla." kinda like everyone saying how HARD it is to learn how to beatmatch/mix and how it took them a year to get decent...not to brag or anything but i've only practiced on my friend's tables a few times and i wasn't perfect or anything, but every other song or so, i mixed it fine. seems like maybe people talk it up a lot to discourage other people. haters!

Basic beatmatching isn't difficult at all. I started using the digital beat counter and locked em in pretty good, right away. There's a lot more to mixing than beatmatching though. A good friend of mine, who is one of the biggest promoters in Denver, told me, after I gave him a demo (about 2 weeks into spinning), "You have some great records, but you suck ass." I asked him why, stating that the beats were locked on. He replied that any dj can beatmatch, but I was coming in too rough on my bass, etc...

Getting gigs is also easy, yet hard. Doors are opening up left and right for me now, but they were harder to come by a couple of years ago. Depending on how well connected you are and the scene you live in, this can be very true. I have always been very well connected and known some of the bigger promoters in town, but I had to prove myself by throwing my own events to start getting booked for good gigs. I hate the whiners that complain about not getting gigs though. If you want it, bust your ass and get it.

i also hate ppl who roll their eyes

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Originally posted by NiteMer Basic beatmatching isn't difficult at all. I started using the digital beat counter and locked em in pretty good, right away. There's a lot more to mixing than beatmatching though. A good friend of mine, who is one of the biggest promoters in Denver, told me, after I gave him a demo (about 2 weeks into spinning), "You have some great records, but you suck ass." I asked him why, stating that the beats were locked on. He replied that any dj can beatmatch, but I was coming in too rough on my bass, etc... Getting gigs is also easy, yet hard. Doors are opening up left and right for me now, but they were harder to come by a couple of years ago. Depending on how well connected you are and the scene you live in, this can be very true. I have always been very well connected and known some of the bigger promoters in town, but I had to prove myself by throwing my own events to start getting booked for good gigs. I hate the whiners that complain about not getting gigs though. If you want it, bust your ass and get it.

well yea i beatmatched the first time i ever messed around on tables. but i'm pretty good at using just the volume now...i haven't quite gotten the hang of all the different things you can do though with the mixer...i just get the beat matched and then use the volume to bring them into one each other. and my timing in the songs is off a lot too, because i only have a few records of my own (i keep them at my friend's) so when i'm mixing, i just tell him to give me records to mix in. so a lot of the time, i've never heard the song so i think that kind of makes it a little more difficult too.

i agree 100% about just making it happen if you believe in yourself. you have to be able to sell yourself. it's very important to have that type of outgoing and confident personality in the industry i think. actually, it's good to be like that in general

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Originally posted by Slylee well yea i beatmatched the first time i ever messed around on tables. but i'm pretty good at using just the volume now...i haven't quite gotten the hang of all the different things you can do though with the mixer...i just get the beat matched and then use the volume to bring them into one each other. and my timing in the songs is off a lot too, because i only have a few records of my own (i keep them at my friend's) so when i'm mixing, i just tell him to give me records to mix in. so a lot of the time, i've never heard the song so i think that kind of makes it a little more difficult too. i agree 100% about just making it happen if you believe in yourself. you have to be able to sell yourself. it's very important to have that type of outgoing and confident personality in the industry i think. actually, it's good to be like that in general

That's exactly the point though. After you have been doing it a while, you don't really need to know the records that well to have it timed right. I used to misphrase all the time, because I was trying to drop it early and bring the track in on the beginning of a phrase, but I learned how wrong that is too. After you have been doing it a while, beatmatching is easier, timing is easier, transitions are smoother and you learn more mixer tricks. When I started I was so flustered trying to get the beatmatch on, that I couldn't talk to anyone, while on the decks, much less have time to perform any tricks or mix in early. Now, beatmatching is simple, just part of the motions. Until you gain consistency, through all aspects, it can be hard to get booked for good gigs. Especially out here. People don't realize it, but there is a ton of great talent in Colorado, and one of our clubs just got rated #1 club in the US for the second straight year (Superclubs had their own category). But, even so, there are always gonna be gigs available to anyone who really wants them and has some ability. Hell, a friend of mine that just started, has already been getting booked for some alright gigs, just because he knows people. It's the nature of the business.

Side note: I get to play in the Dominican Rep in April. Stoked for my first out of state opportunity.

well i know i still have my work cut out for me. however, i definitely think that old saying applies here as it does in sports...you either got it, or you don't. sure you can practice, and practice and practice, and eventually you'll be pretty good...but then there's that person that gets out there, and gets good in like half the time. there are people out there who just have an ear for music. i'd like to think i'm one of them. it sure helps.

i never would have thought colorado would have a big edm scene. i talked to a guy one time who gets small time gigs in south beach and he said all the DJ's here are asshole haters. no one is willing to help you out or introduce you. that's where your contacts/personality come into handy. sadly enough, it's more about who you know, not what you know.

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Originally posted by Slylee well i know i still have my work cut out for me. however, i definitely think that old saying applies here as it does in sports...you either got it, or you don't. sure you can practice, and practice and practice, and eventually you'll be pretty good...but then there's that person that gets out there, and gets good in like half the time. there are people out there who just have an ear for music. i'd like to think i'm one of them. it sure helps. i never would have thought colorado would have a big edm scene. i talked to a guy one time who gets small time gigs in south beach and he said all the DJ's here are asshole haters. no one is willing to help you out or introduce you. that's where your contacts/personality come into handy. sadly enough, it's more about who you know, not what you know.

You're absolutely right. I learned very fast and believe that I was gifted with an ear. Friends who started before me were perplexed by my growth. My friend that already gets some ok gigs seems to have the same natural ability. I have never tried teaching someone and had them pick it up so easily. He already uses tricks that I use, without me even telling him. He just watches and takes note of it. Sometimes he doesn't do it right, but we can't expect too much.

As far as contacts go, djs will seldom get you anywhere. Everyone is always so afraid of having their thunder stolen, that they rarely help each other. I try to help people get gigs, but I'm in the minority. Who you know is very important, but you have to have some ability, if they are knowledgeable. The good promoters won't book you, if they don't think you're ready. I am not taking a chance of weakening my reputation as a promoter by booking a subpar dj. But if a dj proves that they are worthy, they will get an opportunity, given the right attitude.

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Originally posted by Slylee sadly enough, it's more about who you know, not what you know.

thats true everywhere you go even here

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Originally posted by NiteMer Yeah. That is lame, but it's also lame that it's very difficult for an unattractive girl to make it as a dj.

Absolutly wrong my friend. Here are 2 Chi-Town favorites. And they are very sucessful here in Chicago. They fill a club in Chicago as much as any main stream big name EDM DJ.



Teri Bristol.




Psycho Bitch.

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Originally posted by jonSun Absolutly wrong my friend. Here are 2 Chi-Town favorites. And they are very sucessful here in Chicago. They fill a club in Chicago as much as any main stream big name EDM DJ. Teri Bristol. Psycho Bitch.

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Originally posted by jonSun Absolutly wrong my friend. Here are 2 Chi-Town favorites. And they are very sucessful here in Chicago. They fill a club in Chicago as much as any main stream big name EDM DJ. Teri Bristol. Psycho Bitch.

It is more difficult for ugly girls than it is for men. It is easier for hot girls than anyone else. I didn't say that unattractive women couldn't become big, I said it's harder. Obviously it's possible. Hell Irene's ugly and sucks and, somehow, made it big.

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Originally posted by jonSun Absolutly wrong my friend. Here are 2 Chi-Town favorites. And they are very sucessful here in Chicago. They fill a club in Chicago as much as any main stream big name EDM DJ. Teri Bristol. Psycho Bitch.

then again thats in Chicago



Fucked up Shit like that happend in that city

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Originally posted by TweeK then again thats in Chicago Fucked up Shit like that happend in that city

Dude its not thier looks. Its the music.

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