Tiësto - Forever Today vs Randy Katana - In Silence

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Posted by The Master on Mar-19-2005 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
well it's almost identical. i'm not gonna believe the "oh really it's the same? i've never seen terminator" BS. everyone's seen terminator ffs.

yes they're really similar melodies, but that doesn't means he ripped it... its just a coincidence.

Posted by skip on Mar-19-2005 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
yes they're really similar melodies, but that doesn't means he ripped it... its just a coincidence.

well you can believe what you want and i can believe what i want.

Posted by The Master on Mar-20-2005 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
well you can believe what you want and i can believe what i want.

sure, the difference is that you cannot prove what you believe

Posted by skip on Mar-20-2005 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
sure, the difference is that you cannot prove what you believe

and you can?

Posted by The Master on Mar-20-2005 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
and you can?

of course.

as you know Forever Today was co-produced by Tiesto and classical composer Geert Huinink. just like they co-produced Magik Journey.

what they did in both songs was the same thing. Geert composed the classical masterpice you can hear as intro. then Tiesto produced the second part of the song, the one which has a simple yet effective melody; in Forever Today's case you can hear the resemblance with Lethal Industry. some people think the transition between the classical composition and Tiesto's part doesn't merge well together.

then the final part of both songs is a "remix" done by Tiesto (much probably co-produced with Geert) of the classical masterpiece. listen to both intros, then listen to the breakdown in both songs and you will see that in fact it is a "remix" of the classical piece handed by Geert. that proves no melody from The Termiator was ripped. Geert is a wide background genius and there is absolutely no way he could have ripped the melody. just listen to the classical piece again and you will notice there is almost no similarities with The Terminator melody. Geert's composition is a complex and beautiful piece and the only similarity is a short 5 notes coincidence. the thing is that when Tiesto made the "remix", he strenghted the melody and the 5 notes coincidence turned more noticeable. but it's just that, a 5 notes coincidence and it is unfair to believe and go saying that they "ripped" the melody from The Terminator when it's not true.

Posted by PDM on Mar-21-2005 04:29:

Forever Today, great production wise, great melodic wise.

Posted by SymsöniQuA on Mar-23-2005 23:00:

Forever today

Posted by Heaven7 on Mar-24-2005 01:35:

def. in silence...
Forever Today is not that good...

Posted by QtheDJ on Mar-24-2005 03:44:

Not really a Tiesto fan...dunno can't seem to latch with his productions... Gonna go with Katana, on this one

Posted by NoisyNeil on Mar-28-2005 12:53:

Tiesto's Forever Today is sweeeeeeeeeeet

where as In Silence is a cheap and cheesy tune

Posted by Tangil on Apr-04-2005 06:02:

quote:
Originally posted by PDM
Forever Today, great production wise.

?

No way!!

Seriously people just actually listen to some of tiesto's more recent productions such as Forever Today and basically all of the Parade of Athletes album. These songs may sound nice because they have a decent melody but in terms of actual production its as if they have been whipped together in an instant!
Once you're done listening to Olympic Flame etc. have a listen to Obsession. The difference in production quality is astounding!!!

In silence, no doubt about it, is much much better!

And if anyone is calling In Silence cheap and cheesy how about you get a clue and listen to the Txitxarro Mix.

(Just an opinion mind you...)

Posted by The Master on Apr-14-2005 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by JuB jUb
?

No way!!

Seriously people just actually listen to some of tiesto's more recent productions such as Forever Today and basically all of the Parade of Athletes album. These songs may sound nice because they have a decent melody but in terms of actual production its as if they have been whipped together in an instant!
Once you're done listening to Olympic Flame etc. have a listen to Obsession. The difference in production quality is astounding!!!

In silence, no doubt about it, is much much better!

And if anyone is calling In Silence cheap and cheesy how about you get a clue and listen to the Txitxarro Mix.

(Just an opinion mind you...)

your opinion seems to be biased on your thoughts about the parade of the athletes album. we're not comparing his latest works, neither his tune obsession, it's only forever today vs in silence.

Posted by smokeape on Apr-14-2005 02:47:

Tiesto.

[[[smoke]]]

Posted by Tangil on Apr-14-2005 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
your opinion seems to be biased on your thoughts about the parade of the athletes album. we're not comparing his latest works, neither his tune obsession, it's only forever today vs in silence.

Actually i'm saying that Forever Today is one of his recent works with fairly ordinary production standards. When you compare this song to in silence the difference in production quality is noticeable. That is my point.

Posted by Soonmeister on Apr-14-2005 13:32:

yeah Forever today but randy katana scores my vote spesh the tixarro remix, AVB played it at Global Gathering 2004 ...... GOOOSEBUMPS

Posted by djallure on Apr-15-2005 05:17:

In Silence

In Silence by far, although Forever today is a good track, the transition between the orchestral piece and the rest of the track could have been better. Tiesto mixes Forever Today into In Silence in, I think, Just Be's Release Party in Amsterdam last year, is that what gave you the idea?

Posted by The Master on Apr-18-2005 21:23:

Re: In Silence

quote:
Originally posted by djallure
In Silence by far, although Forever today is a good track, the transition between the orchestral piece and the rest of the track could have been better. Tiesto mixes Forever Today into In Silence in, I think, Just Be's Release Party in Amsterdam last year, is that what gave you the idea?

no, i actually got the idea from the "Official Tranceaddict Tune of the Year" polls. i wanted to prove it was all a complete farce, and these results prove it. the supposedly "Tune of the Year" is loosing against a tune which wasn't even inside the 40 nominees.

Posted by Nayil on Apr-20-2005 03:38:

in silence

Posted by Dj_Day-V on Apr-20-2005 11:33:

Re: Re: In Silence

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
no, i actually got the idea from the "Official Tranceaddict Tune of the Year" polls. i wanted to prove it was all a complete farce, and these results prove it. the supposedly "Tune of the Year" is loosing against a tune which wasn't even inside the 40 nominees.

Lol,

50-50 now

Posted by Sean Cassidy on Apr-30-2005 14:20:

Katana...still loves it!

Posted by Rhand on Apr-30-2005 14:28:

Katana

Posted by *kt* on May-01-2005 18:29:

hmmm they're practically neck and neck! but for me its gotta be IS

Posted by FrancoR on May-06-2005 10:16:

My vote for the Geert Huinink production, like djallure said i dont like the transition between the orchestral piece and the rest of the track.
to be sincerous i DON'T like the rest of the track (i think is when tiesto put your hands in this record )
Personally the same thing happen to me with Magik Journey.

Also In Silence is an excelent track but forever today is a far better IMO.

Posted by MaGiK54 on May-08-2005 10:29:

Tiësto - Forever Today

Posted by Traiden on May-23-2005 14:14:

Forever today has a better melody.

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