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Originally posted by E K Wing You are one of those that line up in the washroom to fill up your water bottle.

....and, this is important because...?


I'm not gonna pay $2.50 every time I want a bottle of water?

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Originally posted by Matt ....and, this is important because...? I'm not gonna pay $2.50 every time I want a bottle of water?

umm...its actyally 3.75 last time i went

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Originally posted by smuncky umm...its actyally 3.75 last time i went

well there ya go...

True! Anything more than 1.50 for a bottle of water is outrageous. On alcohol, pop, juice I really don't care what you charge. But something like water, that people need when they're out dancing at a club SHOULD be easily available. I make sure to always keep 4 bucks on me in case of instances like what happened to me at the Oakenfold party, where I very nearly passed out from dehydration until one of the bartenders gave me a free glass of water from the tap. More clubs should offer that choice, System Soundbar is great for that, I'd even pay a buck for a glass of tap water when faced with a choice between a bottle for 3.75 and that. I think clubs make most of their profit from drink sales (correct me if I'm wrong) and understand the thought process behind jacking up prices, but for a bottle of water, I think the prices are insane. I'd be HAPPY if it were only $2.50 I'd probably buy 2 or 3 a night rather than the 0 I buy right now.

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Originally posted by Spam True! Anything more than 1.50 for a bottle of water is outrageous. On alcohol, pop, juice I really don't care what you charge. But something like water, that people need when they're out dancing at a club SHOULD be easily available. I make sure to always keep 4 bucks on me in case of instances like what happened to me at the Oakenfold party, where I very nearly passed out from dehydration until one of the bartenders gave me a free glass of water from the tap. More clubs should offer that choice, System Soundbar is great for that, I'd even pay a buck for a glass of tap water when faced with a choice between a bottle for 3.75 and that. I think clubs make most of their profit from drink sales (correct me if I'm wrong) and understand the thought process behind jacking up prices, but for a bottle of water, I think the prices are insane. I'd be HAPPY if it were only $2.50 I'd probably buy 2 or 3 a night rather than the 0 I buy right now.

If the water were $1.50 or $2.50 then you'd be complaining because cover is $30-40. The club has to pay it's staff, DJs as well as guest djs' hotel bills, dinner bills and flights somehow. This goes for ANY club in Toronto. Consider yourself lucky that you dont live somewhere else in the world where cover is routinely $30-40 (no guests) and drinks are $10.

Clubs are not entertainment charities. Having said that though, tap water is always free although i suspect most people would rather pay for bottled water because it just tastes better.

One last note. Its always interesting when people complain about drink prices at a bar when they would never think twice about paying $3 for the same can of pop at a restaurant that they could buy at the supermarket for 75 cents.

When you buy a drink at a club you are paying for more than the drink. You are paying for the club in which you bought it. And trust me when i say that $10-15 at the front door doesnt cover it.

Well apparently it's free to get water in a cup and at VIVA you can go to the washroom and refill your water bottle after buying a water bottle which is good because I have seen other clubs where they actually make the bouncers forbid people to go to the washroom with a water bottle because they don't want people re filling their bottles but at VIVA the bouncers don't break your balls over little things like that

Don't clubs by law have to provide free (albeit tap) water?

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Originally posted by Matt ....and, this is important because...? I'm not gonna pay $2.50 every time I want a bottle of water?

Thanks Jayx1 .. tell them.
I can't find one club (not only viva)especially afterhours can afford to sell their bottle water or pop for even $2.50 or less. Just let you know a few cost of operation for just ONE REGULAR NIGHT .So next time Matt,you can think and use simple calculation(if you know Matt).. before open you mouth and just complain.

1) laser with depreciation and utility -- $1500
2) securities -- $3000
3) rent+ insurance+ hydro -- $4000
4) staff (bar/coat check/cleaner)-- $2000
5) Djs -- $1500 to $2000 (internation djs extra)

Jay is right that we are lucky in toronto already. even down south like LA, NY or europe ..you are going to pay $40-50 us at the door and easily $7 -$10 drinks. So support our nice TO clubs or you will have not more parties to go to very soon.

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Originally posted by E K Wing Thanks Jayx1 .. tell them. I can't find one club (not only viva)especially afterhours can afford to sell their bottle water or pop for even $2.50 or less.

I can't name one afterhours which is selling their bottled water for $2.50 or less or and if you are actually suprised by the cost of water at an afterhours then it must have been your first time going to an afterhours because everyone else who has been has known for a while. Matt I have yet to find bottled water for $2.50 or less at VIVA, GUV, BOA, SYSTEM, COMFORT ZONE, PULSE, FILM or any other afterhours in this city.

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Originally posted by E K Wing Thanks Jayx1 .. tell them. I can't find one club (not only viva)especially afterhours can afford to sell their bottle water or pop for even $2.50 or less. Just let you know a few cost of operation for just ONE REGULAR NIGHT .So next time Matt,you can think and use simple calculation(if you know Matt).. before open you mouth and just complain. 1) laser with depreciation and utility -- $1500 2) securities -- $3000 3) rent+ insurance+ hydro -- $4000 4) staff (bar/coat check/cleaner)-- $2000 5) Djs -- $1500 to $2000 (internation djs extra) Jay is right that we are lucky in toronto already. even down south like LA, NY or europe ..you are going to pay $40-50 us at the door and easily $7 -$10 drinks. So support our nice TO clubs or you will have not more parties to go to very soon.

u seem to have missed my point.

I don't argue the fact it is expensive to run a headliner night... but you seem to have this problem with me cuz I "refill my water in the bathroom"

I am not gonna pay $3.75 every time I want a bottle of water, because I usually go through 8-15 a night. I am gonna refill it in the bathroom, thank you very much. I already paid $30+ cover... why should I throw another $30+ at water? I throw an extra $5 at the bathroom attendant you hired, just for using some soap (yet he still insists I tip him every time I wash my hands...)

I'm happy to support TO clubs, but Viva just isn't as great as it used to be, so I'm taking my business elsewhere...

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Originally posted by Matt u seem to have missed my point. I don't argue the fact it is expensive to run a headliner night... but you seem to have this problem with me cuz I "refill my water in the bathroom"

Matt i got your point .. (by the way thats just a regular night i'm talking about,not a headliner night)
I had no poblem with your washroom trips. All I'm saying is everyone (all clubs not only viva)is trying hard enough to secure and rebuliding the slowing down party scene (esp. trance parties)including bring in more international djs,promo special, upgrading sound and lightings or some even major renovation.so please give support ( to whichever club you prefer) not just bashing about small non sense.thank you.

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Originally posted by Matt I throw an extra $5 at the bathroom attendant you hired, just for using some soap (yet he still insists I tip him every time I wash my hands...)

Washroom attendants crack me up The dude at VIVA is a pretty cool guy Keep the gum and candy coming!

tipping or not to the washroom attendents (we have a lady in the ladies' rooms as well)is totally up to the customer.they'er there to provde a clean washroom environment (to me is a very important part of a club)for free,their income basically depends on tips.

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Originally posted by baystreetboi Don't clubs by law have to provide free (albeit tap) water?

Free, cold, clean water.

Is that law accurate? I know System does, at Viva I drink a lot of water before going in and usually buy a bottle if I need it. At the Guvernment I was told only one glass per customer, and at the bar near the stage was told I can only buy it in a bottle.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Free, cold, clean water.

Hay.you guys ran off topic.Girls free or free girls is more important than free tap water man.

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Originally posted by Spam Is that law accurate? I know System does, at Viva I drink a lot of water before going in and usually buy a bottle if I need it. At the Guvernment I was told only one glass per customer, and at the bar near the stage was told I can only buy it in a bottle.

Toronto By-law 545-192: Regulations for licensed premises:
Every person licensed as aforesaid under this chapter shall, in the licensed premises, to the satisfaction of the Medical Officer of Health:
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C. Keep an ample supply of running hot and cold water;

...one would logically assume that the intent of this regulation is so that the public has access to both this hot and cold water supply. Also, while it doesn't explicitly state this, I have never heard of anyone charging for access to running water (at least in Canada).

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Originally posted by baystreetboi I have never heard of anyone charging for access to running water (at least in Canada).

Nobody ever mention about any nightclub is charging for running tap water.

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Originally posted by E K Wing Nobody ever mention about any nightclub is charging for running tap water.

I know.. the question was posed though as to whether there was a law saying that clubs MUST provide access to free tap water.

There is a law that states they must provide access to both hot and cold running water, but it does not explicitly say it has to be free. I was just commenting that in practice, I have never heard of anyone charging for tap water, nor do I think anyone would try and get away with it.

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Originally posted by baystreetboi I know.. the question was posed though as to whether there was a law saying that clubs MUST provide access to free tap water. There is a law that states they must provide access to both hot and cold running water, but it does not explicitly say it has to be free. I was just commenting that in practice, I have never heard of anyone charging for tap water, nor do I think anyone would try and get away with it.

Access to cold running water is a fire regulation, so is always there. Hot running girls is more important,so tell the girls to come early.

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