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Posted by mezzir on Jan-23-2005 23:30:

been fooling around with fruity loops for mbbe a year or so, only been taking it seriously for a few months though and i'm improving fast (aka the stuff i've been doing lately i can listen to a month later and not laugh/cringe)
another year and i'll probably be good enough to sound like i know what i'm doing but i want to keep learning more for years after
really get to know what i'm doing in all sorts of audio, not just producing


Posted by Shahar on Jan-24-2005 00:04:

I think it's not a default-time..someone becomes professional after 3years, and someone else after 1year.

Depend on you..


Posted by djdustx on Jan-24-2005 02:19:

i started in 2002 roughly...i had no musical theory which was hard for me in the beginning...and at that time when i have sounds going i thaught that i was producing (lol) it was only until lately that i've realized that what im producing isnt music...or well a music that fits to a genre of the music today.

I've taken it serious only this past year with actually reading about musical theory and applying that knowledge to my music productions. So ya this year i've said to myself well "seb u can't produce...but with patience and hardwork u could be the one hit wonder u've always dreamed "

But its pretty hard to get into producing especially if ur in it for the wrong reasons...i must say that mine is the money and fame...but more then the money and fame...its how i could use that money and fame to gain access to a better life for myself...but to also give credit to my artistic ideas...and to give back to the community is always fulfilling...those are my reasons...

but the biggest one is that i could escape my life and problems for a second and focus on bring music that excites people...and stimulates there mind and body.

This isnt a job man...this is a dream...and if u make cash doing what u love...is a gift from God man...no denying it. But as u said ur 15?...this is something u cant be naive about and say i'll be the next tiesto in about a year...thats the wrong way to go about this...in my opinion after years of work and the thrill frompeople telling u what u created is good!...and they want a copy of it...then u could be bigger then tiesto...u could be the next *fill in name here* ya know?

honestly read sites...listen to what critics say...dont feel like shit when someone cuts u up...and try to be ur own music...not fill in someones shoe

but in the end...u could be pro between the first day on a synth and sequencer -to- never...So good luck with ur journey into music braw...also i've experienced in this that alot of people are full of shit...this ability to screen these type of people also gets stronger over time

Sebasano


Posted by RiCo on Jan-24-2005 04:45:

That's weird, because I never did it for being famous or the money. I started producing because I started playing the piano when I was 5 and I always liked music. I just want to get to a level where I'm satisfied with myself. Once I get to that level, I don't know what comes next. But yeah, I just want to get to a point where I'm completely happy with the results and where I can think of something and be able to translate into without difficulty.


Posted by mezzir on Jan-24-2005 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by RiCo
That's weird, because I never did it for being famous or the money. I started producing because I started playing the piano when I was 5 and I always liked music. I just want to get to a level where I'm satisfied with myself. Once I get to that level, I don't know what comes next. But yeah, I just want to get to a point where I'm completely happy with the results and where I can think of something and be able to translate into without difficulty.

beautifully put, exactly what i was trying to say


Posted by Pimp_fu on Jan-24-2005 07:15:

If by "professional" you mean that they sound like Yoko Ono made them after a really bad heroin binge involving monkeys, group sex, and peanut butter, then right away. Now if your idea of professional means they sound good enough not to induce vomiting...I'll have to get back to you on that one.


Posted by h.vox on Jan-24-2005 09:10:

Re: How long before you tunes started to sound professional

quote:
Originally posted by Airscape
Well i was wondering how long did it take you to make your tunes sound professional? You know how long youve been producing, how long you work on a tune?

Anyway i was wondering?!?


hm. i started on pro tracker in 1994, swithed to fruity in 2001, switched to cubase sx in 2002 (or was it 2003?). my tunes started sounding pretty good like half a year ago ..... because i was a student then and had quite some time to read about 2000+ pages of various manuals, mixing and mastering tutorials and tips.


Posted by h.vox on Jan-24-2005 09:13:

quote:
Originally posted by RiCo
That's weird, because I never did it for being famous or the money. I started producing because I started playing the piano when I was 5 and I always liked music. I just want to get to a level where I'm satisfied with myself. Once I get to that level, I don't know what comes next. But yeah, I just want to get to a point where I'm completely happy with the results and where I can think of something and be able to translate into without difficulty.


well, no problem there, bacause you will never be completely satisfied.
when you will be pretty much satisfied, you will get some more weird and good ideas for your music, with the difference being that you will actually be good enough to make them real. and when that stops, you will change genres and start all over again, and you will feel good about it


Posted by trancintaiwan on Jan-24-2005 11:40:

i've been producing since march 2004 in collaboration w/ a friend of mine who's been at it for about 2 years now. i'm pretty sure we're reaching the professional sounding level. some might think its ludicrous, but we really take our time on each one of our tracks. we don't just finish our tracks quickly and get on to the next one. (been working on our latest one for about 3-4 months now) .


Posted by RIPassion on Jan-25-2005 02:53:

I've been at it only (about) 1 year and although I'm 16, I wish I had started earlier. There are lots of different things you could mean by '...before they sound professional...'


Posted by Beautiful Beast on Jan-25-2005 10:45:

Talking

You guys make me feel soooo old... started music production almost 20 years ago ... and started with house music production around 1988...

guess that qualifies me as "Ancient Trance Addict" ?


Posted by Atlantis_AR on Jan-25-2005 12:21:

I took me 7 years to realise I was destined to become a music engineer instead of a producer. As part of those 7 years, it took me 3 years to become proficient at engineering mixes, and a further 6 months on top of that to become proficient at mastering. These days I only engineer (mix) and master music.

Of course I realise I'm nowhere near exceptional at mixing and mastering yet, but I'd say I'm definitely a long way there. The 6 months it took me to get good at mastering would've never been possible without the 7 years of composing prior to that.

Of course it's different for everyone, but I think 5 years is a fair amount of time to get proficient at composing, mixing or mastering.


Posted by [mart] on Jan-25-2005 12:27:

I started using Reason during late 2001. I'm hyper-critical of my productions so I'm not sure if I've made anything truly professional yet, but I guess my first professional-sounding track was the 2003 remake of 'Imagine'. That came about in July 2003, so that's about a year and 8-9 months I guess.


Posted by Leon on Jan-25-2005 12:42:

I wouldn't bog yourselves down with all that time! My homie skillet, who's in college, and has been producing for about 8-9 months with FL alone, has just started to achieve that pro sound (well that's after I bashed him hard for it heh). But he actually came out with a real original melody, he made a few prototype tunes, and then boom he had it. I haven't spoken to him for a good two weeks, wonder where he is...


Posted by Sean Walsh on Jan-25-2005 14:42:

Started at the end of 2001, and I guess achieved a professional enough sound to get signed at the end of 2003, so 2 years. One year later, I'm a lot better, and will only continue to get better as well, so I guess it truly depends on what your definition of "professional" is.

Oddly enough, I found that the less I produced on a day to day basis, the better I got. When you're at it for 8+ hours a day every day you tend to get locked into some type of sound, which may or may not be a good thing. By taking frequent breaks I give myself a fresh perpective on production and I can look at my old unfinished tracks in a different way, which is usually quite beneficial. Good thing I don't do this for a living, else I wouldn't be getting very many cheques =P


Posted by Dj Yoel Culiner on Jan-25-2005 16:10:

I've benn working for a year and I am totaly satisfied....

been working 9 hours a day


Posted by Tygon on Jan-25-2005 18:03:

I agree that patience is definetly the key to success while having the ability to keep an open mind with your own criticism, but more importantly, with the comments of others that hear your work.

Your desire to grow will directly reflect the time it takes to reach your goal...

Some may reach that "professional sound" quicker than others... but the most important thing is that you enjoy doing it and that you have a passion and drive to improve yourself. I STRONGLY belive that you CANNOT get into production as a career path... you need to make music because you love creating something new and original...

If your intentions are to make money and make a record, you're bound to fail... If you truly love the art-form and devote yourself to perfecting that art, money and success will surly follow...


Posted by LeeSale on Jan-26-2005 22:09:

About 4 years and I am just starting to become comfortable with my sound.


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