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Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
hehehe how can they claim its the real shit without the tzatziki sauce... fake.... and those fries!??!


That's why I'm saying. How can adding FRIES which are a Belgium idea I believe be something that is apart of an authentic Greek dish? Meh.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-24-2005 04:25:

Cyprus is Greek, but the Muslims are trying to take it over.



edit: my favourite thing about Cyprus:


Posted by The Highroller on Jan-24-2005 04:26:

So, you would rather have the dish be "more authentic" without the fries than have it with the fries making a better tasting meal?

Please.


Posted by tatgirl on Jan-24-2005 04:31:

There's that late-night place on the corner of Logan and Danforth that uses real chunks of meat too, but I find their gyros to be VERY GREASYYYYYY!!!!!!! And all the other places used that combo- meat slice stuff that isn't visually appealing. I will try this place next time.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Cyprus is Greek, but the Muslims are trying to take it over.



No. Cyprus is independent as Jay said (as of 1960) however the populous does speak Greek and have a heritage that is from ancient Greece. Muslims for Turkey did try in 1974 to occupy it because of a coup involving Greece (trying to unify the island with mainland Greece even after its independence). The island remains split to this day. The ONLY government that recognizes the Northern FORCIBLY occupied half is Turkey. (This did cause problems for Cyprus being accepted into the EU) and that is why the southern half has "eased" tensions by letting those in the south back up into the north to "visit". I wanted to go while I was there to see my parents'/grandparents' houses (which are apparently not that well taken care of ) but couldn't find the time.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
So, you would rather have the dish be "more authentic" without the fries than have it with the fries making a better tasting meal?

Please.



Hell I'll eat the thing regardless just to see how it tastes. I'm not saying I won't eat it because it is NOT authentic. I'm just saying it's unauthentic when done that way. It makes no sense.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-24-2005 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
trying to unify the island with mainland Greece even after its independence


... because it's Greek. The only reason why it's not part of Greece today is because Turkey was a cold war ally of the U.S.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
... because it's Greek. The only reason why it's not part of Greece today is because Turkey was a cold war ally of the U.S.


The only reason it's not Greek makes it Greek? Please explain that to me. Technically it's not Greek. It is independent. (from a political standpoint, from what I know anyway). If it were Greek we would have a Greek flag. Its background and heritage and language ARE Greek however.


P.S. YES the women there are hot...


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-24-2005 04:46:

Go just about anywhere in greece today and order a gyro and they will always add chips (unless you ask otherwise)

So yes, chips in your gyro is authentic modern greek gyros.


PS: shut it... you are all canadian!


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Go just about anywhere in greece today and order a gyro and they will always add chips (unless you ask otherwise)

So yes, chips in your gyro is authentic modern greek gyros.



Just because they put it in the sandwich does not make it authentic. If I go to Japan and eat Sushi and they put ketchup on it at every restaurant I go to (because it's popular) does that make it authentic? I think not.


Posted by tatgirl on Jan-24-2005 04:48:

At some falafel stands in Israel, u can get chips in your falafel too. It was good at 1st, but who needs all those carbs? lol


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:50:

I'm sure it's very tastey. lol I just HIGHLY doubt it's authenticity.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-24-2005 04:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Just because they put it in the sandwich does not make it authentic. If I go to Japan and eat Sushi and they put ketchup on it at every restaurant I go to (because it's popular) does that make it authentic? I think not.


it does if its now part of their culture just as what we call "canadian food" or "american food" (same thing) is really taken from german origins (hamburger) and belgian/french (french fries) yet we claim them to be authentic north american.

You get chips in your gyro in Greece almost everywhere now and these places are serving greeks which therefore makes it authentic modern day greek food.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-24-2005 04:56:



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Posted by vickyvale on Jan-24-2005 04:57:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ew.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:57:

That's where we differ. I look at authentic as being something has a specific origin somewhere and is done only in that style. (As it was originally done when that product or dish was created). IE how you mentioned the hamburger. You look as authentic as being that culture's take on a traditional dish or food either from that same country or another one. (ie the US's take on their "authentic" verions of a hamburg steak or hamburger). I tend to look at authentic as being the definition that I mentioned. Bah, no more debating...


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-24-2005 04:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
The only reason it's not Greek makes it Greek? Please explain that to me. Technically it's not Greek. It is independent. (from a political standpoint, from what I know anyway). If it were Greek we would have a Greek flag. Its background and heritage and language ARE Greek however.


P.S. YES the women there are hot...



It's ethnically and culturally Greek, and should be part of the Hellenic Republic. The only reason why it didn't join in the 70's was because of the Turkish/Muslim invasion. The West could have prevented it, or reversed it, but they didn't want to upset Turkey, who was a key cold war ally.


















Way better than Italian IMO.


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by vickyvale
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ew.


ew is right. Although the pita's are the way they should be. mmmmm.


Posted by amb_ on Jan-24-2005 04:59:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
At some falafel stands in Israel, u can get chips in your falafel too. It was good at 1st, but who needs all those carbs? lol


I find a tasty salat, sans lettuce (nod to RJ), goes so much better with falafel than greasy chips...


Posted by Endlesswave on Jan-24-2005 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
It's ethnically and culturally Greek, and should be part of the Hellenic Republic. The only reason why it didn't join in the 70's was because of the Turkish/Muslim invasion. The West could have prevented it, or reversed it, but they didn't want to upset Turkey, who was a key cold war ally.



















Way better than Italian IMO.




Ah yeah. I remmeber. It IS ethnically and culturally Greek (I'm not suggesting otherwise) I'm just saying it is STILL independent politically b/c of the reasons you mentioned.


As for the pics...STOP TORTURING ME.


Posted by monishb on Jan-24-2005 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker


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eww


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-24-2005 05:03:

http://www.mercksource.com/pp/us/cn...8zPzhtm#1109533

Sorry, I had to post this with all the Greek talk...


Posted by monishb on Jan-24-2005 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
it does if its now part of their culture just as what we call "canadian food" or "american food" (same thing) is really taken from german origins (hamburger) and belgian/french (french fries) yet we claim them to be authentic north american.

You get chips in your gyro in Greece almost everywhere now and these places are serving greeks which therefore makes it authentic modern day greek food.



agreed nothing in north america is authentic except for moose in canada and the indian tribes!


i feel everything here is so fabricated!


Posted by vickyvale on Jan-24-2005 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
pita's. mmmmm.


Agreed.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-24-2005 05:06:

tasty snack:

-1 Mr. Pita Greek-style pita, lightly toasted (in the blue bag)
-1 tomato, sliced
-extra virgin olive oil (preferably Italian )
-crumbled feta (I prefer cow's milk feta, but what ever works)
-oregano (Italian-style... I use a ton of it)
-a bit of salt and pepper

place ingrediants on pita and fold... voila.. quick Greek/Italian snack


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