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Posted by DJ-Dank-Poo on Jan-25-2005 21:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
I think there's way too much commercial trance in your tracklists. Playing music because it's popular, tried out and easy to find


um.. well first off i wouldn't call it trance. i don't have any of my true straight trance mixes posted up there, mostly its a mix of prog house + breaks. second, what you may think is "popular" personally is anything but here where i am from. around here, the average person has not heard of any of these tracks. so your wrong there too. third, the reason i play the tunes i do is because I LIKE THEM. one of the biggest reasons i make mixes is first off so that I can listen to MY songs and then secondly so my friends and others can. i can put whatever i feel like in there, thats why i started doing this. if you think you want the world to be a different place, than you go out and make it happen. get your own turntables, and your own tracks. you have to remember i'm not going to get a gig spinning where you are, i am working locally for starters, and here all of this material is fresh. maybe you should go back and re-read my first post, where it talks about "filling an intended niche." guess what, thats just what i am doing here. oh and read the part that says "ignore it" if you don't like it, you must have missed that too. or is it because you fall into this category:

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I could be way off on this, but I think the real reason that Wink is annoyed with all the personal websites is that every time he sees one, he is reminded of how other amateurs are working just that much harder at getting recognized.



Posted by DJ-Dank-Poo on Jan-25-2005 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
DONT GO TO THEIR SITES IF YOU HATE IT SO MUCH!


amen.

how worthless of a life it must be to try to criticize everything you personally don't like, or can't understand why others do!


Posted by Ory on Jan-25-2005 21:58:

So you're a small-time Tiesto copy. How nice.


Posted by DJ-Dank-Poo on Jan-25-2005 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
So you're a small-time Tiesto copy. How nice.

forreal? saweeet, works for me! woohooo!

bottom line buddy, i ain't gunna get worked up or change my ways for some downer on the other side of the ocean who has nothing better to do with his time than bash others. support what you like, ignore what you don't. too easy.


Posted by Ory on Jan-25-2005 22:10:

You just bashed MTV, hypocrite.


Posted by wink on Jan-25-2005 23:40:

HappyHappy

Very interesting replies. Thankyou all for participating.. Obviously I dont have to check out peoples profiles but I find it interesting to learn about the social surroundings in my hobby of trance. I just happened to notice the overabundance of new djs promoting a god like image and attitude on their websites with not much experience or difference in tracklist or the way they play compared with other big and small djs. This is interesting because we not only have the music which is trancey but now a whole interactive approach to being "trancey" visually through websites. It seems sometimes like more and more of amature djs these days concentrate more on their visual approach and biography than their actual music. cheez!


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-25-2005 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by wink
Very interesting replies. Thankyou all for participating.. Obviously I dont have to check out peoples profiles but I find it interesting to learn about the social surroundings in my hobby of trance. I just happened to notice the overabundance of new djs promoting a god like image and attitude on their websites with not much experience or difference in tracklist or the way they play compared with other big and small djs. This is interesting because we not only have the music which is trancey but now a whole interactive approach to being "trancey" visually through websites. It seems sometimes like more and more of amature djs these days concentrate more on their visual approach and biography than their actual music. cheez!



well i definitely see what you're saying...but i think most people aren't out there whoring themselves...it's just passive enough that it's not that annoying to me.

what's annoying though is everyday you have to get some post about this radio show that is gonna be on at this time and that you have to check it out bla bla bla...that gets a little old..


Posted by NiteMer on Jan-25-2005 23:58:

I've got a site, but it's ghetto as hell (friend put it together). It's more for a little bit of info and as a joke, in a way. I don't go around promoting it though. It's in my profile, and that's it. Probably shouldn't be either. I'm a much better dj than my website would indicate, but I don't really give a fuck as things either happen or they don't. I'll keep doing what I do and see what happens.


Posted by jay roberts on Jan-26-2005 04:45:

I think you are talking shit this forum should be packed out with djs And music fans whether or not they have their own websites . Do you think all the big name djs all started of as pros ?

Good luck to anyone with their own website at least they are taking the inititive and are into the scene


Posted by mzvirbulis on Jan-26-2005 04:47:

Re: Anyone else sick of seeing the huge amount of new amature dj websites around TA?

quote:
Originally posted by wink
Bleh.. *warning* this may be dramatic for some of you..

It seems like sooo many users profiles on Tranceaddict have their little "www.me.com - I'm a dj been spinnin for 2 or 3 years, blah blah blah..i havent started to produce yet but soon enough.. bla blah" Along with some of their pathetic "studio pics" which end up just being some decks and a mixer..

AND THEN....

jesus, whats also mandatory on there websites is pictures of themself posing really seriously like they're fuckin sasha or some trance god off a GlobalUnderground CD. Maybe it's just me.. I just had to say something.. it seems to be getting a bit out of hand. I mean dont get me wrong... I've found a few that are genuine.. but for the most part they seem to be VERY similar.. *shrug* ok flame me. heh btw.. I know this thread isnt very productive.. I just feel like bitching a bit..

-an annoyed addict

i think u need to just calm down and worry about what u want to achieve. ITS NONE OF UR BUSINESS TO GO ABOUT TALKING ABOUT NEW AMATURE DJ'S LIKE THAT, PEOPLE ARE HEAR TO BE HEARD NOT HAVE SHIT THROWN AT THEM. I THINK THATS WHAT AMATURES AND PROS DO ACTUALLY I THINK ITS GOOD THERE GOT THERE OWN WEBSITE SO THEY CAN BE HEARD.

ALTHOUGH I KNOW WHAT U MEAN BY [url]WWW.ME.COM[/url]


Posted by Trance Effect on Jan-26-2005 05:17:

I dont have any problems with that, everybody has to start with something.

I got my site on my signature.


Posted by Cynical on Jan-26-2005 05:22:

I love how they write their own 'up their own arse' biography, speaking in the third person and then put it on their website.

"Many say that DJ Froggy is the next Sasha, but DJ Froggy knows that Sasha is the next DJ Froggy."

etc.....


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-26-2005 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Cynical
I love how they write their own 'up their own arse' biography, speaking in the third person and then put it on their website.

"Many say that DJ Froggy is the next Sasha, but DJ Froggy knows that Sasha is the next DJ Froggy."

etc.....





Disco Boomer agrees


Posted by isoterra on Jan-26-2005 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
So you're a small-time Tiesto copy. How nice.


I'd rather that than be a small-time Radagast copy.


Posted by capricorn15 on Jan-26-2005 07:52:

Re: Re: Anyone else sick of seeing the huge amount of new amature dj websites around TA?

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
i think u need to just calm down and worry about what u want to achieve. ITS NONE OF UR BUSINESS TO GO ABOUT TALKING ABOUT NEW AMATURE DJ'S LIKE THAT, PEOPLE ARE HEAR TO BE HEARD NOT HAVE SHIT THROWN AT THEM. I THINK THATS WHAT AMATURES AND PROS DO ACTUALLY I THINK ITS GOOD THERE GOT THERE OWN WEBSITE SO THEY CAN BE HEARD.

ALTHOUGH I KNOW WHAT U MEAN BY [url]WWW.ME.COM[/url]

maybe you should read his second post. he said something about these amateur djs promoting a god like image of themselves. sure they should promote themselves, but not like they are the king shit of the earth. its fine to have a website, its another thing to promote yourself as better than you actually are.


Posted by Ory on Jan-26-2005 11:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Cynical
I love how they write their own 'up their own arse' biography, speaking in the third person and then put it on their website.

"Many say that DJ Froggy is the next Sasha, but DJ Froggy knows that Sasha is the next DJ Froggy."

etc.....



Posted by mto on Jan-26-2005 11:51:

I just want to let you know guys that in approximately 3 months i will be starting my DJing career. I will buy some Stanton belt-driven decks and a mixer that comes in this box called "DJ in a box" and it all costs 300$ @ my local Wally mart. Therefore i want you guys to be on the look-out for my abilities. Also look out for my first single. DJ MTO Presents Lakeasha - If You Cared Like I Care We Woul Care The Same (Warmharbour Remix).

Thank you, and my future website will be @ www.GoMtoDJNumeroUno.com

P.M. This is not self promotion.


Posted by Ory on Jan-26-2005 12:25:

Belt... drive...?









Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Jan-26-2005 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Cynical
I love how they write their own 'up their own arse' biography, speaking in the third person and then put it on their website.

"Many say that DJ Froggy is the next Sasha, but DJ Froggy knows that Sasha is the next DJ Froggy."

etc.....


Hehe, I agree and yet I have exactly such a bio on my web site. Written by myself in 3rd person. The thing is, I think you would be suprised of how much the visual stuff and the image surrounding you as a DJ actually means when getting gigs.

I didn't have any 3rd person bio on my web site until I started getting gigs outside of Sweden. The promoters of those gigs actually wanted me to write one of these 3rd person bios which they then could use as some sort of marketing, hype-me-up-beyond-recognition tool. So I wrote a big pretentious piece of text, filled to the brim of inflated ego. I still keep it updated to this day. If not, you could bet your sweet ass some promoter will ask for it. Same goes for god like pictures of yourself spinning, preferably a picture of you in the Oakenfold-thinks-he's-Jesus-Christ-pose. If you don't have them, promoters will ask for them. To put on flyers or websites. When they are paying for your trip and your DJ fee they want every last penny crammed out of it which means they'll take any method available to get people to the event.

So, don't be too harsch on the bedroom DJ who is marketing himself in this way. Sometimes we are actually forced to do it


Posted by Billabong on Jan-26-2005 12:53:

Ahhhhh the voices in my head.


Posted by djxtension on Jan-26-2005 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Billabong
Ahhhhh the voices in my head.


You hear them too?


Posted by Billabong on Jan-26-2005 13:41:

quote:
Originally posted by djxtension
You hear them too?


They tell me to set squirels on fire.


Posted by Icesotope on Jan-26-2005 13:42:

quote:
Originally posted by djxtension
You hear them too?



Paranoid...


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-26-2005 15:27:

I'm surprised at the reaction of such promotional websites. Didn't everyone know that to be a successful DJ, you need better PR skills than technical skills?


Posted by djxtension on Jan-26-2005 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
I'm surprised at the reaction of such promotional websites. Didn't everyone know that to be a successful DJ, you need better PR skills than technical skills?


I know it. But I just can't believe it.

Skills don't really seem to matter anymore, it's more about networking and knowing the right people.


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