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Originally posted by JustJoe I also have to agree about the no glowsticks on strings thing; been hit one too many times before. One of these days I'm gonna go to a party w/ scissors and just start cutting strings.

I wasnt going to say this but I'll share it anyway since everyone seems to have gotten hit with em in the head before. I was at Monster Massive 2000 walking from from area to the other when some kid was swinging those things, I walked to sidestep them when he (either intentionally or unintentionally) changed his routine and I was hit in the head hard. Long story short...he got a free lesson in Marine Corps CCI..close combat instruction. I remember all the candykids were shocked and appalled while the junglists and whatnot were laughin their asses off.

and I never got hit in the head by em again

Mental note: never startle Matthias at a show, lest I get my own crash course in CCI.

Mental note: encourage candy kids to spin poi near Matt for shits and giggles

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Mental note: encourage candy kids to spin poi near Matt for shits and giggles

I wanna see Matthias own up on a kandy kid.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Mental note: encourage candy kids to spin poi near Matt for shits and giggles

No kidding, I am going to push one of them at him. This is going to be great. Matt, save me the trouble, lets go out drinking, I will say something to someone and you can take care of it.

***hides candy bracelets and glowsticks***

YEAH!!!! Ummmm. F*ck Cankdykids!!!!

even if you dont like the glowsticks on strings at least have an area where its allowed... i believe i have somewhat of a reasonable defense if you care to read on

i do agree that no one wants to be in the middle of the floor and all of a sudden some douche steps in front of the dj and trys to grab all the attention, i hate obnoxious spinners just as much and even more than most clubgoers for the fact that they ruin it for those of us who actually are considerate of others. yea we know glowsticks hurt, there is nothing like the pain of a stick to the nuts, even worse, the nuckles (trust me)

we glowstick spinners are perfectly content if we have somewhere to spin as long as we can hear the music, if you dont do it its kinda hard to understand, but it is in fact a form of dance rather than a cry for attention, and for some, its the only way they know how to dance, and theres nothing like the frustration of going to a club to find some guy shining his god damn cop light in your face telling you you arent allowed to dance. EDM is hugely responsible for that particular dance form and not allowing it at a club is like taking an Eagle to the wilderness so you can clip its wings and let it sit there to watch all the other birds fly. (cheesy i know, but thats really what it feels like) im sure youd be livid if some bouncer came up to you and told you your steps arent allowed in their establishment - A slap in the face brought to you, courtesy of the management which leads us few to only come when some bigname DJ is spinning so we can listen to him spin as opposed to going out every weekend to have a good time - money down the drain or handed to some other club.

As owner, manager, promoter, whatever, at the end of the night what really matters is that your customers leave happy, happy customers are sure to come back time and time again, not that this is a money issue, the truth of it all is that the more ppl you have comiing through your doors the more money you're bringing in, and the more money you bring in, the better your ability to satisfy your customers by keeping a clean facillity, a better maintained sound/lighting system, plenty of drinks, and just overall a better atmosphere. alot more ppl are willing to go to a club that presents a good atmosphere - its more than just allowing ppl to spin glowsticks, it includes the dress code, the music playing, the selection of drinks provided, the arangement of furniture and the dancefloor (if youve ever been to the Lizard lounge in dallas you know its all pretty cool in the main room till you step off that 2ft ledge on accident and twist your ankle in the middle of a badass set)

anyways, its your club, do what you like, this is merely the perspective of a stringer and by no means am i trying to tell you that not alowing it will cripple your business however if you do allow it, keep it controlled and off in some corner or something, all we need is to be able to hear the music, and if we can't do it in the club you'll probably find us right out the door across the street going at it might as well make some kind of a profit of it

and from what know, its highly unlikely that the floor will be overtaken by hordes of ppl swinging glowsticks

EDM isn't responsible for stringing, maybe you should look into Pacific Islander culture. I have some friends that are great at spinning poi and fire but they know that the club isn't the place for that. You can still go and dance and have a great time but leave the glowsticks at home.

well yea, true... it all boils down to the Maori as far as where it started..

regardless of the origin, a good chunk of the poi population who keep it alive were first exposed to it through the EDM culture

[point]what i meant by saying EDM is responsible is that poi goes astoundingly well with EDM - if you know how to do it you've probably found that spinning to house, Dnb, trance, hardstyle, gabba, breaks, etc... it all flows really well with it thus influencing the want to go to a club that allows it...

to those who spin, the music is what drives alot of it, and being at a club that allows it, while theres a bangin set playing is utter bliss - even when sober, id sooner pay $30 to get into a club thats gonna let me enjoy myself and have a good time and dance than pay $10 to get into some place where i can watch a dj play similar if not the same music to a crowd thats more concerned about standing around on the dancefloor trying to look cool and sip on beer while bobbing their heads

you wouldnt expect to go to an EMO show or rap/hiphop club to see somone spinning glowsticks - it just isnt done, doesnt belong there

EDM clubs, massives, raves and such are where it fits in, and where it can be accepted [/point]

any Dallas TAs if you remember Fallout you know what im talking about, granted that place was more of a rave than a club

and i use the term EDM loosely - i could never string to Usher - Yeah

Most of the clubs I've been to barely have enough room for people to dance without having stringers in the club. All of the people I know that spin fire don't even listen to EDM. They all get together and go to the woods to trip out and have a huge drum circle with a bonfire and a bunch of people spinning fire to the drum circle.

At a large venue its cool but at a club like Eternal or Nuno's on 6th street its totally not cool.

yes...spinning is good for wide open spaces like Burning Man.

I'm hoping no pictures of me glow-sticking surface from that, for Dirk to mock me relentlessly.

Element is big enough for glow-sticking also. Besides from that, most clubs are just too small.

In SF, a club had "spin night" on Tuesdays which was JUST for spinners. I'd go sometimes--it was fun to watch.

enough

this thread was not ment for glow sticks, next PLESE
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lol go easy mate

i am

dying

It just seems to me that this music is dying and i don't know why. As u know i love this music and i started to beleive it was going to work, but after 18 months of it and just about going broke trying, i finally give up on it, and doing much better.....What i did notice was that most patrons was kool as hell, but if you piss one off and he or she was popular and you guy's followed the train not knowing what the fuck really happened. I see u guy's doing the same to the ETERNAL and thats a shame because you guy's talk about supporting each other, but what you really mean is supporting the dj. In reality by you supporting the DJ is great but thats not really what keeps a club open, thats a part of it , but coming out to that venue and not caring who is playing and having fun thats what will make it.... Tere's a lot more to it, but this is a star.

This thread satrted by (IF YOU WAS A CLUB OWNER WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENT)

I see where you're coming from, but this crowd is very loyal. Honestly, how many people in a Rap crowd care about who is spinning? I can guarantee you not many.

What it boils down to is one crowd is musically driven, where the other is driven by alcohol, sex, and other things. As a club owner, you cater to these people by having shot specials, lingerie and wet t-shirt contests, and money giveaways. All our crowd asks for is respected music, DJs, and good vibes. As a club owner, I would prefer the latter as an EDM crowd is lower maintenance than its Julio counterparts. All you have to do is keep your DJs and crowd happy and they will give back to you tenfold. The main problem with most clubs is they lack consistency. One week you have good music, and the next week you have different things. You can't build a fanbase with that.

Eternal has fixed a lot of its issues and Fridays and Saturdays are creating a buzz. People in the underground community actually tell each other to come out and support. We're forming a foundation for what our scene should have. Good music with no egos, drama, or crew politics. DJs and promoters working for the DJs. We have to support each other because no one else will.

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Originally posted by DJ_Octane I see where you're coming from, but this crowd is very loyal. Honestly, how many people in a Rap crowd care about who is spinning? I can guarantee you not many. What it boils down to is one crowd is musically driven, where the other is driven by alcohol, sex, and other things. As a club owner, you cater to these people by having shot specials, lingerie and wet t-shirt contests, and money giveaways. All our crowd asks for is respected music, DJs, and good vibes. As a club owner, I would prefer the latter as an EDM crowd is lower maintenance than its Julio counterparts. All you have to do is keep your DJs and crowd happy and they will give back to you tenfold. The main problem with most clubs is they lack consistency. One week you have good music, and the next week you have different things. You can't build a fanbase with that. Eternal has fixed a lot of its issues and Fridays and Saturdays are creating a buzz. People in the underground community actually tell each other to come out and support. We're forming a foundation for what our scene should have. Good music with no egos, drama, or crew politics. DJs and promoters working for the DJs. We have to support each other because no one else will.

Beautifully said.

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Originally posted by DJ_Octane What it boils down to is one crowd is musically driven, where the other is driven by alcohol, sex, and other things. As a club owner, you cater to these people by having shot specials, lingerie and wet t-shirt contests, and money giveaways. All our crowd asks for is respected music, DJs, and good vibes.

GOOD POINT
its also a pain in the ass when you alway's have to keep on booking dj's that are known every week and spend thousand of dollars on flyers and man labor to distribute them. As a cost factor only (there is no comparison.)


As you know Octane.....you out of all the dj's that has played in my place (154) is one of the the only ones that i have a lot of respect for. 90% of the dj's that has played at my location sucked as faar as knowing what it took to make the night a good one for the books. Not only u have to know your music but you must read the crowd nad not your agenda for that one hour you play, and that's where a lot of the problem whith this music.

agreed.

You're one of the few club owners I have massive respect for. I appreciate you letting us come out and learn how to play on a good sound system. Some DJs are primadonnas and don't deserve a lot of what they ask for...in my opinion the main problem even before the needle drops. I'm just grateful to be in the company of so many talented Djs that are willing to put back into the scene what they receive from it.

...we still need to have that beer.

anytime, just come next door.

when your in town that is

Danny Ocean
The_One
DJ_Octane & Rememberence_
all agree that you should fly DJ_Ballistic over for a gig, he's one cool cat!

rofl @ self promotion in random thread. But yeah, someone donate a couple of grand so we can get Nath out here for a gig

I'll donate half of what Packer's mom makes for me on the weekends to the cause...you ****!!!

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Originally posted by DJ_Octane I'll donate half of what Packer's mom makes for me on the weekends to the cause...you ****!!!

i havent paid her in months

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