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Game, set, match - Renegade.

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Originally posted by Geoff ppl r fucking retarded, how does same sex marriage affect u? ppl need to mind their own business

isnt that what the german citizens were told to think as they smelled the reek of the death camps?

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Originally posted by Orbax isnt that what the german citizens were told to think as they smelled the reek of the death camps?

So what exactly are you saying? That gay marriage is the moral equivalent of the Jewish holocaust?

Considering it's the 21st century, I believe we should move away from laws such as this, and let people pursue happiness, whether it be with a man or a woman, there is supposed to be a seperation of church and state in America, however that will never be true, becuase every politician has always brought their religious beliefs into play when making laws, and after all, America was founded on religious beliefs, but it was also founded on freedom from persecution.

Many people want equality, we would all like to believe everyone is created equal, but it will never be that way, everyone is racist, everyone is prejudice, and no matter how many gay pride parades we have, I doubt we will ever have enough votes to condone same-sex marriage.

But who decided that we should have hetereosexual marriage? Did we vote on that? I don't think so.

In the end, the matter doesn't really affect me at all, but it does sicken me at how many will straight up say they believe in equality, when they actually don't.

I don't know why its such a big issue, 2 people of the same sex getting married. Just because the bible said it was wrong? Who can even say the bible is a true piece of work? No one can.

But as long as religion is a vital part of American politics, I doubt we will ever see same-sex marriage as something legal.

My thoughts: I dont care.


but im bitter about it somewhat.... i cant believe someone who drinks manjuice got married before i did

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Originally posted by Renegade So what exactly are you saying? That gay marriage is the moral equivelent of the Jewish holocaust?

Apathy doesnt further society is what im saying. Put your jump to conclusions mat away.

And it has several conclusions ... you can JUMP to.


That's the worst idea I've ever heard.

/begin short rant

if the gov't wants to protect the sanctity of marriage


BAN DIVORCE!

/end of short rant

Stop bringing up sanctity of marriage, no one is arguing that.

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Originally posted by Orbax Stop bringing up sanctity of marriage, no one is arguing that.

that's pretty much the main arguement that anti-gay marriage advocates have for banning gay marriage

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Originally posted by Renegade So procreation is the test of a legitimate marriage? Tough luck infertile and childless couples, you've been undermining the sanctity of marriage for too long!

No, but it's an incomplete marriage.

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Wow, really? I always though the cornerstone of civilisation was agriculture. Or the ready availabilty of productive resources. Or oganised government. Or some process of law-enforcement. But it seems I was wrong - apparently no civilization can function without the legally enabled suppression of homosexual couples! Wait until the ancient Greeks, Spartans and Romans hear about this!

And where do farmers, politicians, police officers, etc. come from?

They're born to heterosexual couples.

Edit: not just born, but raised and socialized. Parents have the most important job in the world.

By the way, marriage pre-dates all the institutions you mentioned.

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Originally posted by verndogs BAN DIVORCE!

It should be illegal except where there's fault (abuse, etc.)

It's a very selfish act.

Suck it up and solve your problems instead of ruining your children's lives.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf It should be illegal except where there's fault (abuse, etc.) It's a very selfish act. Suck it up and solve your problems instead of ruining your children's lives.

Some people just aren't meant to spend the rest of their lives together. People make mistakes and should be allowed the opportunity to fix them.

I don't even want to know what you think about abortion.

I am opposed to such acts due to the fact I am extremely uncomfortable in the presents of homo-sexuals. I can co-habitate but they better not touch me or I'll freak out.

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Originally posted by josh4 I'm sure many women have problems with you making passes at them.

Nah. I have a girl.

i've been raised in an extremely liberal setting and GBLT couples aren't anything special for me
I was actually hanging out with two friends who go to Smith (all women's college) the other day, and we were chillin in the hall talking to people and someone came in the room and saw probably their s/o and ran over and they kissed and they both looked at me like i was supposed to be shocked or something
Actually, one of my 11th grade english teachers got married last year (she's a lesbian), everyone around here was really proud of her.
The whole controversy over gay marriage really bugs me just because it always seems its a debate of conservative religious traditions vs. liberal lawyers trying to weasel their way around the conservative's wordings to make it legal for good, but thats only because its impossible to convince someone who thinks its wrong anything else. It really just makes me sick how its usually the conservative right that's always parading the flag around and saying how they believe in it, while to me it seems on so many issues the liberals are fighting their asses off for what the flag actually stands for, like equal rights and liberties. I think all minorities of every kind (sexual preference, religion, race, everything) should all get together and say we're tired of christians ruling the country and imposing their beliefs on everyone.

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Originally posted by Nabistai I also sickens me to see 2 gays 'be intimite' (in any way). *throw-upsmilie*

i bet if you saw too hot blonde girls scoring you would probaly wipe it out and beat it off

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf It should be illegal except where there's fault (abuse, etc.) It's a very selfish act. Suck it up and solve your problems instead of ruining your children's lives.

I just wanted to say that divorce was the best thing for our family. Instead of always having a dread feeling, just waiting for the next fight, we could actually feel happy. My parents splitting up was really for the best.

And I like to think I'm a tollerant person. I have nothing against gay people, those I have met were like any other person. If gay people want to marry, they should be able to do it if they want...

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf It should be illegal except where there's fault (abuse, etc.) It's a very selfish act. Suck it up and solve your problems instead of ruining your children's lives.

the main thing you should teach teach your children is too try your hardest to achieve happiness. If my parents werent happy together i would much prefer them split up then stay together just for me.

let them fuck, let the get maried, let them even adopt babies for fuck sacke who gives a shit, people are equal, gay ore straigth

reading some of these posts ive changed my stance somewhat.


People in GENERAL shouldnt be allowed to be married or have kids. A rigorous selective breeding program needs to be implemented and a caste system developed. Uber soldats, uber mensch. The Germans DID have some good ideas. Hell look at the Dinan M3.

Force couples who want children that havent passed the system into the shadowy underworld. The choice to live happily sterile and having sex without children is rather utopian to most people. Those select few who have passed the test dont even have to be married. A careful analysis of genetic material can be fed into a nationwide data base run by the government and appropriate female "tanks" can be selected. The child will be theirs. Who says that genetics make up a family. The family you get to choose is the best.

So youll have couples that receive a pass to have a child (the ones who desire a child will be the only ones contacted with an annual contact to see if they wish their status changed). In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) will become the norm. The rare couple of people who have both passed the test will be given the chance to procreate along the normal lines but this is discouraged. There is always the chance of a mutation, a stray sperm or egg that doesnt match up to spec. The "Nature" children will be allowed so as to let human evolve along proscribed lines. We arent so foolish as to think we can take the human race to the next step by ourselves.

There will be a drastic population drop, but after the stabilization of resources and a re-allocation of surplus the nation will enter into a new era of prosperity and power. The rigorous naturalization process and genetic screening will limit the influx of non-nationals and the 5 year minumum military enrollment from age 20-25 will make sure we have a top notch miltiary.

whos with me?

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Originally posted by Michael19 i bet if you saw too hot blonde girls scoring you would probaly wipe it out and beat it off

Probably...it's called being a man, boy. You know, with manly hormones and such...

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Public Displays of Affection are annoying anyway.

Are PDA's of between 2 hot girls ok?

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Originally posted by Dan1584 Are PDA's of between 2 hot girls ok?

not at all. I dont like porn. I dont like PDAs.

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Originally posted by Tufan let them fuck, let the get maried, let them even adopt babies for fuck sacke who gives a shit, people are equal, gay ore straigth

what would your life had been like if you had two mothers?

or three???

(now that polygamy is being considered in Canada)

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