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Oh yea, welcome to the boards mate!

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well thank you...besides explaining me some terms you didnt really have a poin mate lol

the results of ww2 are found everywhere today... united states - israel alliance, holocaust is an atm machine for israel, ny 9/11, the israel war in iraq, the competition that is going onbetween europe and the us by inflating europe with immigrants and applying the american culture over there... there are many effects my friend.

you must feel really smart posting allyour funny quotes lol and i dont consider myself an expert but i know enough to make my statements. your welcome :-)

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz well thank you...besides explaining me some terms you didnt really have a poin mate lol the results of ww2 are found everywhere today... united states - israel alliance, holocaust is an atm machine for israel, ny 9/11, the israel war in iraq, the competition that is going onbetween europe and the us by inflating europe with immigrants and applying the american culture over there... there are many effects my friend. you must feel really smart posting allyour funny quotes lol and i dont consider myself an expert but i know enough to make my statements. your welcome :-)

Of course this world would not be the same if it were not for that particular outcome of WW2 but to say that policies are driven due to the experience of that war is way off the mark. The Israel-US allience is born out of the Cold War (in fact it is the Cold War that drives most [realist] thinking today not WW2). And it is for that reason Israel gets loads of aid (and that only really kicked off after the Six Day War when America realised what an ally Israel could be in the Cold War, again, not nothing to do with WW2)

I'm at a loss as to explain 9/11 on WW2? Perhaps you can elaborate?

"The Israel war in Iraq" - what Israel war in Iraq?

"the competition that is going onbetween europe and the us by inflating europe with immigrants and applying the american culture over there" - what? and not only 'what', what does that, whatever it means, have to do with WW2?

"there are many effects my friend" - of course there are many affects (the EU for one) but to say that politics today is governed by WW2 is wrong (unless you use the same annalergy to say that the crumbling of the Roman empire also has the same affect on politics today?)

"you must feel really smart posting allyour funny quotes" - yea they are funny aren't they? They're YOUR quotes!!

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Originally posted by occrider Good goals such as the elimination of the bourgious as the scapegoat for societal problems? Hmmmm those good intentions remind me of some of the initial good intentions of national socialism. Funny how things have a way of turning out right? Also funny how good intentioned communism resulted in 5 times as many deaths as ill intentioned national socialism. But it's all about intentions and goals? Might want to read up on NSDAP history. Quite leftist in it's call for redistribution of income and war profits, profit-sharing in large industries, nationalization of trusts, increases in old-age pensions and free education. Unsurprisingly they're fundamentally very similar with one advancing unity under nationality whith the other advancing unity under the proletariat. And with all that unity, every other group in between is excluded. They're political symbols. Banning them makes about as much sense as banning the confederate flag.

i'm talking about communism in theory not communism in practice. i know i'm not as well-read in politics as you are but i do have a basic understanding.

I believe in TOTAL free speech.

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz all of you people in here are dumb. instead of bragging around why dont you go back to your countries and help building it up in the east.

And how exactly do you know where each one of us is living? I for instance am living in my home country. Many of us are.

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1. lets get this st8...politics as of today are that way because of the after effects of WW2.

To a degree, yes. But even without the WW2, the world would probably end up in a similar way.

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as the psychology goes... the loser of a war is always the stupid one...the winner will never enrich the loser in any way. 2. nazism ... lets called it national solicalism if you ppl dont konw. intened to reestablish and profit for the one country. not only based on war and hatred how some ppl stated in here.

Yes, nazism is not based only on hatred of other races, and yes, the system did have positive effects on Germany's industry, but overall racial hatred is among its prime foundations.

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3. comunism is theory. it does not work out because people have a private and personal ego and are not all the same. plus in the sovjet union over 12 million russians and jews died in the russian holocaust under stalin. wonder why nobody brings that up...probgably because russia does not have any money and doesnt work like germany like an atm account for israel.

Yes, but we must take a note at two things here. First is that communism treats people equally, something that nazism doesn't. Second is that the version of paranoid autocratic communism introduced by Stalin is not what was originally intended. It's like saying democracy sucks because of the state of affairs in Democratic Republic of Kongo.

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i shouldnt even waste my time in here in those ignorant forums...damn you people have no life or idea of politics whatsoever

Good thing you signed up here then.

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz well thank you...besides explaining me some terms you didnt really have a poin mate lol the results of ww2 are found everywhere today... united states - israel alliance, holocaust is an atm machine for israel, ny 9/11, the israel war in iraq, the competition that is going onbetween europe and the us by inflating europe with immigrants and applying the american culture over there... there are many effects my friend. you must feel really smart posting allyour funny quotes lol and i dont consider myself an expert but i know enough to make my statements. your welcome :-)

Those things you mentioned are effects of cold war, not WW2. Even if there woulnd't have been a WW2, there would most likely still be a cold war.

There is a connection everywhere

I would say not the cold war BUT WW2 drives probably not most of your realist thinking today but its the most important. Because of such things as forming alliances the us, uk, france had the main part is the holocaust.
Israel is the only country profitting from that cause. In germany free speech has turned from banned to prohibited. If you say such things as the holocaust wasnt technically possible or there werent as much people killed as they say... you ARE going to jail or get a huge fine. Germany is turning to the example of a government controlled country. Just last week on the 60 year anniversary of the holocaust end german politicians go over to israel and to the concentration camps all crying and kissing ass. This is gonig on for 60 years. why the importance? there have been plenty much slaughter from the allied side on germans...military and cilivians...there has been the german holocaust. russian soldiers putting germans in the camps. there has been the russian holocaust where stalin killed over 12 million people. and there is this whole show going on over 4 million jews that died. if it was 4 million. to me it is worse what stalin did or even what the americans did in hiroshima. this whole thing is a show just because of the fact that there is alot of money to get from the germans. not russians or other countries. its like a little payback if you know what i mean. false media and lies are manipulating the people. best example schinlers list...so old who wants to see that crap again...Anne franks diary is a fake. Pictures of the holocaust or of german soldiers tortuing cilivians on the street were profen faked by american soldiers. It is sad that things like that are being taken advantage for power. you might fool some people somtimes but you cant fool all the people all the time. i mean its rgetting crazy over there. the police tapping house phones, checking computers and brainwash people. this whole hip hop and pro gay movements that are going on...thats caca lol.There is this whole "I wanna be an american idiot" movement going on over there.

Back to the topic. There is a very big connection with the holocaust, todays politics and the american-israeli alliance as both profit from european countries paying still today yearly holocaust $$$ to those so called survivors. Without the holocaust israel woudlt be what it is today. come on those ppl are even a nuclear power.
it is nothing new that government, media and economy are worked by the government but indirectly worked by the zionists. the groupings of west-european wealthy orthodox jews.
the holocaust is used to put themselves as a victim and forever blame the german idiot.
After WW2 there was this jewish general that had the Morgenthau - Plan. A plan how to turn germany into agricultural country. The zionist scrolls of the elders which refer to this have a well through thought by accomplish this.
- Invading european countries with immigrants to mix their races.
60 years ago jewish people complained that hitler are not letting marry with germans
today religious jews do not want to marry outside their religion because they think and act as if they are better than others. To keep their race clean i guess.
Also a big fact is that by 2010 turkia might enter the european union. as an average every turk in turkia is in debt over 1250 dollars. the inflation rate is on 52%. if that happens and the EU balances out their economy it will not longer be a concurrent for the US. as the united states is israels big brother and hey thats profitable for the jews in power. well first of all turkia is 97 percent an asian country. the ones that move to germany or other parts of europe are a pain in the butt. not civilised but the poor farmer turks. well you cant really put them all in one bag but ou can say 9 out of 10 turks living in germany are on welfare, criminals or in jail. By having a multicultural country like the US...own folk traditions are being wiped out over the years.
Same as the war in iraq...it ha never been about saddam or bin laden. same as 911 was initiated. this whole war is for a position in power in the middle east.

this is only a scratch on the surface of whats really going on... for more informaition read books on it or research online there is plenty of stuff. im just making a point how the real politics as of today are controlled in a plan benefitting on the holocaust. i might have left out alot of stuff which i might add later...just dont got much time to chat here lol wasted

well hope theres gonna be a nice debate over this

yea im actually not posting here...a friend of mine just urged me to post here FLIP lol i usually dont waste my time in chats or forums but i guess this will be interesting to see what others say.

lol and stop blaiming communists and the cold war for todays topic. its probably a tiny scratch and a reason to blame on the underground politics that are going on

by the way where is everyone from here

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz well hope theres gonna be a nice debate over this

If you had made key points rather than rambling alot of opinions rather facts then I would.

Basicly I think your main point is that WW2 has a large effect upon politics today.

I disagree, public opinion, mass media and most importantly money are the biggest pressures in current politics. The only effect WW2 has is the effects it has upon these things. That is perhaps a little on public opinion, but this woudn't effect policy.

People are selfish, so poltics is selfish. That means things are done for money not because of a war 60 years ago.

One point I do think is valid though is that wide public perception in most countries about WW2 is hugely affected by the fact that "we" won. But the reason nobody cared about what went on in Russia is because they were scared I'd think. I mean would you after narrowly defeating the Germans start on Russia, think about the size and scale of Russia (also it's eqipment at this point was advanced, unlike at the start of the war, and it had the organisation it lacked at the start of the war). Russia is something we couldn't do anything about. The Jewish holocaust is something we stoped so of cource we are going to pleat on about it for the glory (selfish us).

I'm from:

Wick / Caithness / Highlands / Scotland / UK / EU / Earth

Geez, get some more of these freaks over here and I really will think this world has an anti-semtic problem

Just to put it straight for the rest of you:

German holocaust is a bit different then your average genoicide - we've had genoicide on earth for thousands of years and unfortunately I am sure it will exist in the future as well. However the systematic killing of people in factories of death is something the world has never seen before and hopefully will never seen again. It should be remembered as humanities weakest hour as it was. Although not as large in scope as other events, it was the most morally insulting to humanity.

The deaths under Stalin were insane, but they were not systematic as with the Nazis. It is similar to the 'cleansing' Chairman Mao did in the infancy of his communist state as well.

Next bit: Reperations. Germany money to Jews is not done because the Germans were bad to the Jews. Germany's money is reperated to the Jews because Germany STOLE this money from the Jews. Imagine your 4,000,000 Jews... multiply it by $100 (say the average net worth of a Jew back then) and you are talking about a whole bunch of money that was stolen by the German from the Jews for the benifit of the German people.

In addition, you add the cost of the free labor of the millions of other of the Jews in labor camps and you realize that Germany till this day has actually profitted from the holocaust. The reperations are away for Germany to clean its record by returning this blood money. Its literally the smallest thing they could do.

Also Germany reperations to the Jews not come until a decade after the foundation of Israel. Most donations to Israel prior came and still come from other Western nations.

The USA relationship with Israel was not based on the Holocaust. Although the USA recongized the state of Israel during the UN assembly (as well as most the world's nations) it did not actively contribute to its survivial or protection till 1973. USA's relationship with Israel was based on the Cold War, not the holocaust.

Look before 1973 you will find almost no US arms as part of the Israeli army - it was largely French and WWII surplus.

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz all of you people in here are dumb. (...) 1. lets get this st8...

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Originally posted by Yoepus .....

+1 as they say in the COR

i guess after a while the germans should start killing people again and take back what the jews this time took from them... there we go again and find ourselves in times before ww2.

anyways jews declared their war of boykott on germany as soon as hitler got in power 1933. it isnt something new that like today in the time around ww1 jews where the corrupt business people and in power as they were in europe. so in 1936 a 4 year probation wasmade to ban jews from german territory. many jews fled but still most remained. in that time period jews were deported to other countries such as cuba, brasil and also united states which REFUSED to accept them. this ulitmately lead to the holocaust. which i dont support but have to state how many take their positoins and advantages from today.

this has nothing to do with anti semitism. i believe thats why people are afraid to speak up in europe because they are stamped as racist or anti semitism in this subject.

plus its not a justification that jews get the money from german just because they supposedly stole it. in prison i dont pay hourly wage to prisoners.

well at least now there is nothing more to get because europes economy is going down. so i wonder what next will come up. maybe the jews will suit the germans for not paying enough. a jew that died in the holocaust is not better than a russian farmer that got executed under stalin. so i dont know why the jewish people are all wanting this *feel sorry for us * attitude.

there is also a difference between east and west european jews. its cruel to say but true. east european such as polish and russians and so on are hated by the ortodox. i can say that as a fact because i have seen it not only once. this jewish rabbi telling of this one lady that she is not a jew because she is from poland. please gimme a break.
those people are all communities without country or home.

and as i believe YES the world does have an anti semitic problem which the jewish people have earned themselves. if everything that i say is taken as anti semitic then i guess the whole world got a problem. lol

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz plus its not a justification that jews get the money from german just because they supposedly stole it. in prison i dont pay hourly wage to prisoners.

Crap analogy.

Man On The Street + Crime = Prisoner

Man On The Street + Jew? = ???


Where are you and where are you from? Because some of your ideas I've either misunderstood becuase of your english or you are or are very close to being anti-semetic (not a term I use often).

actually man on the street has nothing to do with this...lol

we are talkin about 1940-1944 jews on teh street as war prisoners.

not a crap analogy but a analisatio of things that are happening and happend and not being anti semitic in any way either brainwashed by the media or what ever *they* say did really happen... lots of things are unkwon in the past and taken abuse of today but things like that angry people and with the time there will be something that brings the cup to spill... im not gonna post here anymore because it doesnt really make sense since everybody in here has no point but changes tings around in their favor.

well cool talkin to yall... lol @ flip hehe cya

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz plus its not a justification that jews get the money from german just because they supposedly stole it. in prison i dont pay hourly wage to prisoners.

Theres no supposedly about it.

And if you don't like having your views questioned and investigated then your probebly better not posting here. Because thats what we do. Doesn't always mean we disagree, just investigating.

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Originally posted by Dervish I'm from: Wick / Caithness / Highlands / Scotland / UK / EU / Earth

Hehe, I just remembered the movie Highlander

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hehe, I just remembered the movie Highlander

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There can be only one!!!!

lol quality crap film

the Higlands is where all the stuff people asscoiate with Scotland comes from... but they don't vist, they all goto Edinburgh and buy tat from shit shops in an area which never had any of the stuff. Tourists!

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Originally posted by Dervish lol quality crap film

Definitely. All 4 parts plus the tv series. Btw, did anyone notice that the actor who played Connor McLoud in the series was also playing Agent Smith in Matrixxx, the porn version of Matrix?

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the Higlands is where all the stuff people asscoiate with Scotland comes from... but they don't vist, they all goto Edinburgh and buy tat from shit shops in an area which never had any of the stuff. Tourists!

Nice to know, I'll be sure to pay a visit to the Highlands if I ever go to Scotland.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Definitely. All 4 parts plus the tv series. Btw, did anyone notice that the actor who played Connor McLoud in the series was also playing Agent Smith in Matrixxx, the porn version of Matrix?

You must watch a hell of alot of porn to have seen that

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Originally posted by Dervish You must watch a hell of alot of porn to have seen that

Hehe, but really I dunno, I don't watch it that much, I guess it's more because I always choose quality material.

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Originally posted by Prestige_Beatz actually man on the street has nothing to do with this...lol we are talkin about 1940-1944 jews on teh street as war prisoners. not a crap analogy but a analisatio of things that are happening and happend and not being anti semitic in any way either brainwashed by the media or what ever *they* say did really happen... lots of things are unkwon in the past and taken abuse of today but things like that angry people and with the time there will be something that brings the cup to spill... im not gonna post here anymore because it doesnt really make sense since everybody in here has no point but changes tings around in their favor. well cool talkin to yall... lol @ flip hehe cya

Given the poor grammer and incoherence of this guys posts, I have come to the conclusion that he is permanently pissed (thats drunk to you) and should probably not warrent any of our attention. I had such high hopes when he proudly proclaimed we were all dumb and he knew so much more than us about everything, but I can only say how dissapointed I am

I'm sorry to have to be the one to have to point this out to you mate, but you're the dumb one who has very little grasp of anything that is happening in the world outside of the little bubble you live in

IMHO, the Confederate flag should be banned in the US

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