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Posted by F�anor on Feb-10-2005 06:16:

Ok, I think it's not the kind of plater I want.. however, I'll just have to try it somewhere...


Posted by savetrance on Feb-12-2005 04:33:

i think the numark cdx's blow both of those away


Posted by zoomzoom on Feb-12-2005 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by F�anor
Ok, I think it's not the kind of plater I want.. however, I'll just have to try it somewhere...


If you're confused how everything works, I highly recommend you find a place like a guitar center where you can test them. It's much easier that you just see for yourself than try to understand our descriptions.


Posted by A83 on Feb-12-2005 04:44:

If you're just planning on mixing trance...buy a CDJ 200 when they come out. Dates are in the Pioneer Products Release Dates/Prices thread

No scratching
$500

quote:
CDJ-200 Key Features:

- Jog Wheel: The large 100mm jog wheel lets DJs speed up or slow down tracks and fine-tune loop points. DJs also can stop/cue up tracks with amazing precision (1/75 sec) and quickly search through a track by simply using the jog wheel or, in super fast mode, by holding down the manual search button at the same time.
- Cue/Loop Memory: Cue or loop points can be saved to the deck�s internal memory, giving DJs the chance to instantly return to the cue point or loop at any time whilst the CD is playing.
- Real Time Seamless Loop: The real time seamless loop allows DJs to set a loop on the fly, and adjust it using the jog wheel. It can then be looped continuously until the re-loop/exit button is used. Upon release, the track continues without pause.
- Real Time Cue: DJs can press the In/Real Time Cue button to instantly save a cue point to the internal memory.
- AutoCue: This automatically finds the first beat of a track, but can be turned off for manual cueing.
- Manual Cue: Cue points can be set anywhere on a track by making adjustments with the jog wheel or manual search buttons. The cue point is stored in the deck�s internal memory until overwritten by a new cue point.
- Pitch Bend: This is used to either speed up or slow down the tempo of a track for perfect beat mixing, by moving the jog wheel either forwards or backwards.


CDJ-200 Specifications:
Bright Dot-matrix Display with Scrolling Text: Yes
Headphone Out: Yes
Cue: Yes
Pause: Yes
Tempo: 6 (0.02%), 10 (0.05%), 16 (0.05%)
Master Tempo: Yes
File Search: Yes
Folder Search: Yes
.mp3 Digital Out: Yes
Auto BPM Counter: Yes
Beat Loop & Loop Cutter: Yes
Quick Slot Load: Blue Light

MPEG Functions:
MPEG-1 Layer-3 Sampling Frequency 32-320Kbps
MPEG-1 Bit Rate 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz
MPEG-2 Layer-3 Sampling Frequency 16-160 Kbps
MPEG-2 Bit Rage 16kHz, 22.05kHz, 24kHz
Maximum File Number 999

General Specifications:
System Compact disc digital audio system
Power Requirements
Power Consumption 16 Watts
Operating Temperature +5 C to +35 C
Operating Humidity 5% to 85%
Weight 3.2 kg
7 Lbs
Dimensions 216 mm (W) by 292 mm (D) by 99.5 mm (H)
8 � (W) x 11 � (D) x 3 15/16ths (H) in


Audio Specifications:
Frequency Response 4Hz to 20kHz
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 110dB or greater (JEITA)
Distortion 0.006% (JEITA)


Posted by zoomzoom on Feb-12-2005 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by savetrance
i think the numark cdx's blow both of those away


Interesting. I've never tried them, but they look like they could be fun.

Personally, I'm not so concerned about fully reproducing the vinyl "experience". If I were, I would certainly have more strongly considered the Denons or these CDXs. To me, CDJs take the necessary essence and sound of vinyl to a cd deck without any frills or unecessary elements. I don't need to have a motorized platter or real-feeling vinyl because to me, those only get in the way of what is truly important: the sound.

I learned to DJ on CDJs, so this is my personal preference. I would imagine those who learned on vinyl would prefer something that more fully emulates that experience. To each his own, and I am not one of those idiots who bashes people just because they have a different style. Making music is about creativity, not silly adherence to one way of doing things. I'm just relaying my personal preferences.


Posted by savetrance on Feb-12-2005 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by zoomzoom
Interesting. I've never tried them, but they look like they could be fun.

Personally, I'm not so concerned about fully reproducing the vinyl "experience". If I were, I would certainly have more strongly considered the Denons or these CDXs. To me, CDJs take the necessary essence and sound of vinyl to a cd deck without any frills or unecessary elements. I don't need to have a motorized platter or real-feeling vinyl because to me, those only get in the way of what is truly important: the sound.

I learned to DJ on CDJs, so this is my personal preference. I would imagine those who learned on vinyl would prefer something that more fully emulates that experience. To each his own, and I am not one of those idiots who bashes people just because they have a different style. Making music is about creativity, not silly adherence to one way of doing things. I'm just relaying my personal preferences.


i hear what you're saying. to each his own. i just think as far as fuctionality the cdx's are leaps and bounds above the others. i used to be dead set on the cdj's , then a friend of mine got cdx's and they are amazing. unlike the techincs which has been horrible in my experience.


Posted by Michael May on Feb-13-2005 03:55:

I own the Denon 1000 and the Denon 3000 and love them both.


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