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Nat, you shudda bribed the cop. They take bribes in Italy. That's the only way around their bogus laws.

Usually the line you got told was the hint that bribes are welcome

As for this poor dj.... My deepest sympathy goes out to him, b/c he will never dj again after this.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL DJ Danny D ??

Hammer Danny D , splash on a Friday night LOLOLOL

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Originally posted by b4k-oz Nat, you shudda bribed the cop. They take bribes in Italy. That's the only way around their bogus laws. Usually the line you got told was the hint that bribes are welcome

Countries that require you to bribe the cops dont rank high on my list of places to go, at all. THERE'S NOTHING I HATE MORE than a crooked law enforcement system. It's an abuse of power, and those who do it don't deserve the badge. If I can't trust or depend on the police force in place, I don't want to go / live there.

not surprised at all,i know couple DJ's from Finland,and they buy all their cd's themself as there were hundreads of raids on the clubs in search of stolen music. its usual out there...

though he listens to whatever he wants on his personal computer - noone can charge him for that.

How much is 1.4 million lira?....$5.99 U.S.?


Actually I just went & checked 1.4 million lira = $1,161.31 CAD

Hey, this sort of thing happened in Toronto 2-4 yrs ago.

They hit up all the downtown record shops, mostly with the focus on boot-leg hip-hop mixes from locals. (Play De Record most notably)

People in traditional DJ pools get advance copies to drop on the air, or @ events. They'd often use these new tracks for Funkmaster-flex type underground mixes. The labels loved the free street-promotion, but once dling got huge, they decided to try curbing all things they considered piracy.

Seems public resources are going to be draaaaaiiined by these corporations more an more... *sigh*

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Originally posted by RobbyG. How much is 1.4 million lira?....$5.99 U.S.? Actually I just went & checked 1.4 million lira = $1,161.31 CAD

it said 1.4 mil EUROS, not LIRA...

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb it said 1.4 mil EUROS, not LIRA...

Faaaack ....I need glasses....& learn how to read


1.4 million EURO= $2,252,767.16 CAD

GOOD

Im sick of seeing DJs make money off of stolen music. Youd be surprised who does it too. And im not talking those promo CDs that they get from artist either. This problem is mostly with the local commercial DJs though and i suspect that is the case everywhere. It used to be that these commercial djs would have to spend money on music to make money. Not anymore.

I wish they would do the same thing in Canada too.

Again i have no problem with DJs who use promo MP3s from artist or actually own the music and have made MP3s for convenience. But all too many simply download and play which rips off the artist and the clubgoer. Why the clubgoer you ask? Because most MP3s sound like shit on a big system. ESPECIALLY downloaded ones.

So next time you are at a club and you think the system sounds crappy when it usually sounds good its probably an Mp3 DJ

WOW thats a hefty fine

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH I can't wait for this to happen to all these so called "DJ's" here in Toronto (i.e DJ Danny D)

I did manage to see him spin at a club due to a birthday party I was forced to go.His set was 90% vinyl...so I dont really think he'd get into too much trouble.

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Originally posted by King_Mack I did manage to see him spin at a club due to a birthday party I was forced to go.His set was 90% vinyl...so I dont really think he'd get into too much trouble.

well he should be fined just for playing then, lol. I know i know, useless comment, but he really does suck! i heard him for the first time the other day, and i was really upset.


as for the Italian DJ; a fine shouldnt be higher than the damadge he may have caused. there is no way 2000mp3's is worth a couple of million! thats just crazy. Fine him per song or something, not some huge outrageous number

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Originally posted by dEsidEL DJ Danny D ??

lol actualy danny d buys records


Marky D would probably be hurt big time though.. ive never seen that ugy spin a record in my life.. he probably doesnt own one.. just 200 + burned cds

danny d is responsibe for making illegal mixes and getting them airplayo n the radio

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Originally posted by tatgirl Countries that require you to bribe the cops dont rank high on my list of places to go, at all. THERE'S NOTHING I HATE MORE than a crooked law enforcement system. It's an abuse of power, and those who do it don't deserve the badge. If I can't trust or depend on the police force in place, I don't want to go / live there.

honestly i don't trust any police in any place!!!!

I like countries where u can bribe the cops. Speeding tickets are so much easier and cheaper to get out of!

That fines scary... and i do think its WAY to fucking high (just riddiculous... come on), but honestly, he needs to be fined.

if ur commerical djing u should not using music u downloaded for free online off kazaa/souleseek, etc.

i agree w/ jayxl's comment 100%!!

so has anyone found out who it was yet??????

I agree with Jayx on this one....i really don't think its fair for a "Big Time DJ" to be play'n pirated mp3's. Dude, ur making the money...support ur fellow dj's and buy the damn vinyls....i don't get it. I understand a local dj throw'n on an mp3 here and there..but when u got these huge djs thrown essential mixes/lives recorded sets and what not....i thinks its totally wrong. Sure the fine is hefty but....what can u do.
He should know better

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Originally posted by Mr Rogers I agree with Jayx on this one....i really don't think its fair for a "Big Time DJ" to be play'n pirated mp3's. Dude, ur making the money...support ur fellow dj's and buy the damn vinyls....i don't get it. I understand a local dj throw'n on an mp3 here and there..but when u got these huge djs thrown essential mixes/lives recorded sets and what not....i thinks its totally wrong. Sure the fine is hefty but....what can u do. He should know better

Its not fair for ANY DJ to be making money off off pirated MP3s. If you are getting paid, BUY THE MUSIC.

NO excuses.

Why was it possible for them to do that before?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Its not fair for ANY DJ to be making money off off pirated MP3s. If you are getting paid, BUY THE MUSIC. NO excuses. Why was it possible for them to do that before?

How about playing white labels with uncleared samples? Some artist is still getting "ripped off" if you do it.

What if you'd never buy a 50 Cent album, but there's one bit you like in one of the songs that you want to sample? Would you be more forgiving to someone who got the sample without paying, if the person did a good job creatively turning it into something new and exciting? For me, I think a big-time producer would have no excuse, but if you're just a kid who wants to hone his pruduction skills, then I would let it go. (Then sue him when the track gets big.)

^^^^

Good point

however white labels are usually small time and at least the person who did it put a lot of his own work into it. Yes its not the most ethical thing to do but pales in comparison to having a book of pirated MP3s and getting paid weekly to play them.

As for the original material. Anybody who can produce would NEVER use a downloaded sample to work from. They would get the cleanest sample possible directly from the source. If some kid fucking around does this from downloading a song he's probably not going to make it that big anyways.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Anybody who can produce would NEVER use a downloaded sample to work from. They would get the cleanest sample possible directly from the source.

A "sample" is just a particular sound that's repeated and/or modulated in a track. I think you're using the word incorrectly. The term itself makes no statement about what it contains - it could be an entire a capella or it could be just a snare drum, and you can download many samples that are royalty-free. Almost every producer on the planet uses at least SOME downloaded samples of the latter variety, except the ones that can afford to buy thousands of dollars worth of their own sampling equipment and thousands of dollars worth of sample CDs.

I think what you're trying to say is that good producers don't rip samples from other people's productions? But they could just as easily rip from a CD or from a live show.

To use portions of other people's music you must get that owner's permission first. Usually those artists or label's want financial compensation for that portion or sample. There are entertainment lawyers who specialize in making deals for artists to sample other's work.

If you can reproduce that sound yourself instead of copying it directly then no royalties are due. But thats a hard feat to accomplish especially when vocals are involved.

Yes there are plenty of free samples you are right. Its always free to sample your own flatulence for example

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Originally posted by Tully so has anyone found out who it was yet??????

Mauro Picotto

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Originally posted by Jayx1 To use portions of other people's music you must get that owner's permission first. Usually those artists or label's want financial compensation for that portion or sample. There are entertainment lawyers who specialize in making deals for artists to sample other's work. If you can reproduce that sound yourself instead of copying it directly then no royalties are due. But thats a hard feat to accomplish especially when vocals are involved. Yes there are plenty of free samples you are right. Its always free to sample your own flatulence for example

You missed the point completely. The word "sample" does not implicitly refer to a portion of someone else's work, and you can find millions of samples out there that won't get you sued if you use them in a production. If you think the only "free samples" you can get are of your own flatulence then maybe you ought to pipe down because you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Yes, it's illegal to splice parts of other people's productions into your own without their permission, and vocals are obviously a huge part of that, but you seem to be horribly misconstruing the actual number of producers that do this. It's really very rare - 9 out of 10 people who rip samples are amateurs who don't know what they're doing in the first place and certainly aren't likely to go pro or make any money.

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