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nice plugin but i cant find a way to enable the plugin again after i disable it.....i even uninstalled winamp and deleted the plugins folder...no luck

go into prefrences...then dsp/effect...click on it, then configure plugin

done that, nothing works :/
is there a program to recreate the effect?
like goldwave?

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Originally posted by Toufas done that, nothing works :/ is there a program to recreate the effect? like goldwave?

dunno?

You usally have to wait like 30 seconds before the effect comes on in winamp

So am I missing something, I only downloaded Soundsolution.exe, and installed it, am I missing presets or something?, I'm lost with this and wouldn't mind messin with it, love messin with Winamp.

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Originally posted by DannyO So am I missing something, I only downloaded Soundsolution.exe, and installed it, am I missing presets or something?, I'm lost with this and wouldn't mind messin with it, love messin with Winamp.

The default one works fine...or you can download more presets from the previous website which I am too much of a lazy fuck to type it out and download adobe to read the manual on how to load a damn preset

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Originally posted by Boomer187 when he records his live sets he goes straight to mp3 with total recorder.

why record in mp3?

Did you guys happen to miss the fact that Armin is a genious with the EQ? It's not just about compression dammit!

Nem

WOW what a tool! ASOT LIVE 24/7 @ Sunquests House!

My tunes seems to sound better with this thing on

please read!

Guys.. guys... guys !!!

Here are the details and my experience, that I'd like to share.

The highest digital sound quality, that comes closest to analog (like listening to a Vinyl record, for e.g.) would be highest bit rate (24bit + )possible, but at a sampling rate of 192KHZ. A sampling rate is an important factor here. That is why, a DVD-Audio sounds way better then listening to a CD. No matter how you try, you can't have, any higher than a 44KHZ/16 bit sampling rate. Hence, a DVD-Audio comes closer to a Vinyl sound.

I myself am always performing with digital files. When recording in my studio (I do create my own mixes from scratch) I am using REASON 2.5, And SoundForge and some touches my Acid 5 VST effects. When I'm actually performing live, I'm playing all my tracks in a 24-bit, 192 KHZ uncompressed WAV files ( I have a Windows laptop). And beleive me guys, you can **feel** the difference in music.. When performing at a large club, with over 40dB of sound, MP3 sounds like **Shit** . I have completely dumped any Mp3 files, while mixing, or performing.

So, to get a good sound quality, like the example in the first posting, the first thing to do, is forget mixing on compressed files. Either rip your originals from CD or Vinyls in WAV format, bring it on to Reason, or ABLETON LIVE (I use this extensively) or any other sequencing software. SoundForge would open this file in 24 bit, and then add your VST effect there itself.

And then *feel** the music.

I use Ableton LIVE for performing, and some of the tricks I learned.. beleive me... sometimes is not even possible with records.

Cheers!
DJ_Pippins

Re: please read!

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Originally posted by Pippins Guys.. guys... guys !!! Here are the details and my experience, that I'd like to share. The highest digital sound quality, that comes closest to analog (like listening to a Vinyl record, for e.g.) would be highest bit rate (24bit + )possible, but at a sampling rate of 192KHZ. A sampling rate is an important factor here. That is why, a DVD-Audio sounds way better then listening to a CD. No matter how you try, you can't have, any higher than a 44KHZ/16 bit sampling rate. Hence, a DVD-Audio comes closer to a Vinyl sound. I myself am always performing with digital files. When recording in my studio (I do create my own mixes from scratch) I am using REASON 2.5, And SoundForge and some touches my Acid 5 VST effects. When I'm actually performing live, I'm playing all my tracks in a 24-bit, 192 KHZ uncompressed WAV files ( I have a Windows laptop). And beleive me guys, you can **feel** the difference in music.. When performing at a large club, with over 40dB of sound, MP3 sounds like **Shit** . I have completely dumped any Mp3 files, while mixing, or performing. So, to get a good sound quality, like the example in the first posting, the first thing to do, is forget mixing on compressed files. Either rip your originals from CD or Vinyls in WAV format, bring it on to Reason, or ABLETON LIVE (I use this extensively) or any other sequencing software. SoundForge would open this file in 24 bit, and then add your VST effect there itself. And then *feel** the music. I use Ableton LIVE for performing, and some of the tricks I learned.. beleive me... sometimes is not even possible with records. Cheers! DJ_Pippins

Why don't you download this plugin and try it out and see how it sounds. I think you'd be suprised

Alright.... lets settle this once and for all... what is the absolute BEST way to record a mix, in what format, with what software/hardware and with what 'effects'?

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Originally posted by fr3sh Alright.... lets settle this once and for all... what is the absolute BEST way to record a mix, in what format, with what software/hardware and with what 'effects'?

I would say record it in Wave format, with a VERY GOOD soundcard, using Either Total Recorder or Sound Forge, and don't add ANY effects to it, keep an original sound copy and just use effect processors after.

"easy"

high quality digital in (24bit/96khz)

know what you're doing with equalization

and fantastic compression


the question is of course if you can do all that, and if you have the means (hardware/software) of doing all that.

Record 24bit 96khz save as wav

after, put the FM Compression thing on it

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Originally posted by DannyO I would say record it in Wave format, with a VERY GOOD soundcard, using Either Total Recorder or Sound Forge, and don't add ANY effects to it, keep an original sound copy and just use effect processors after.

Word, wav is the WAY to go, and don't mess with doing effects during the mix.

When I record a session, i ALWAYS have my originals untainted by equalization and effects (compression and limiting and gating is a different story, sometimes that has to be done live, but for a dj mix, pssshhawww, keep a fantastic original)

<3 dannyo

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Originally posted by DJFreaq the question is of course if you can do all that, and if you have the means (hardware/software) of doing all that.

so hardware/software is the best or good enough to be great?

so far im hearing sound forge, total recorder, ableton live....

anymore... and which is preferred?

well ideally, thousand dollar compressors etc. ARE going to give you a better sound than a plug in for DAW program.

it depends on how much work you put into.

Honestly? For recording mixex (if i were to mix a set, but to be honest I am a terrilbe DJ right now) I would use my Audiophile USB, which (even though it's shitty for playing/recording at the same time since USB can't stream both ways) record at 24/96 into Adobe Audition 1.5 than save.

I'd do all my other eqing and compression later.

Help any?

I dunno, maybe I'm just stonded

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Originally posted by Nou 100% analog from needle to recording medium, analog tape, everything. Run the tape through a battery of whatever you want done to it and then press it to a series of LP's, or if you want to goto the digital route for distrobution (I bet you would) use SACD, with 100% untouched analog signal all the way up to the first A/D bank in the SACD recorder.

word

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Originally posted by Nou 100% analog from needle to recording medium, analog tape, everything. Run the tape through a battery of whatever you want done to it and then press it to a series of LP's, or if you want to goto the digital route for distrobution (I bet you would) use SACD, with 100% untouched analog signal all the way up to the first A/D bank in the SACD recorder.

link to what this looks like and where it can be bought?... i will admit i am new to all of this and what you just said was not as clear to me as it would be to others...

I want to record my mixes from my 1200's onto the computer in great if not the best quality... and i should be recording off of my mixer right>?... im hearing...NOT to record off the turntables directly

lol.... im just obsessed with quality... arg... oh well i guess i will have to make due by my non record label owning self

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Originally posted by Nou Haha, unless you have thousands and thousands of dollars and own a large record label, this is probably the leest posible solution. Look around for analog reel to reel recorders and analog compressors (preferably tube compressors). I think Sony/Philips is only letting the major labels press to SACD now, and the license fees are insane. Not to mention you cant buy the master burners with out written consent to use the technology from Sony/Philips.

DUDE, man i wish i had thousands of dollars. but i do have access to R2R recorders and shit loads of analog compressors

gawd though, analog tape sounds glorious, digital is accurate, but harsh and cold, analog is sweet sweet warm bliss

Recording setups

My collegues.

Reading through the posting, I beleive, everybody had their own preferences on equipment setup. So I'd like to share mine here. I'd post a photo later sometimes.

I'm a EDM fan, and that is my genre that I mix in my studio. I just released my CD today, my b-day.

I use a SAGER NP5680 laptop configured for a DAW, running XP SP 2
1 GB RAM, 7200 RPM Ultra hard drive from Hitachi.

M-Audio Firewire Audiophile connected via Firewire.

For composition, creating melodies, I use REASON 2.5 in SLAVE mode, with Ableton live 4.1

For editing, and enhancement, I use Soundforge 7 and editing it in 24 bit.

Then I take the tracks and put it back on Ableton Live for mixing, and beat matching. Of course, first thing is I manually warp and quanticize all my tracks.

Then I render it in 24 bit WAV and AIFF file. The only problem I had till now, is I can't render in WAV if the final file size is over 2 GB. There seems to be some kind of OS limitation. I'd be happy to share ideas, if someone can help me in this. I also use DRM technology when making WMA files.

so, when I distribute my mix with my friends, you get copy protection, and your hard work is secured.

Trance on !
Cheers,
DJ_Pippins

Grab a vinyl.
Record onto pc
Put Put FM Compression on it.
Marvel at how much 'better' it sounds.

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