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Originally posted by mndeg dreaming of youuu np: The Thrillseekers - Dreaming Of You (Flutlicht Remix)

This is an great example of GOOD, harded edged trance, ppl who think this is cheese can go stick a broom up their bum

I find it funny how he moans about this then on the same page begins a topic about why 'gu sucks' now. pot & kettle anyone ?

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Originally posted by Jaanus I listen to Linkin Park and I think their stuff is great. My point was, that if you're supposed to get bashed for listening to cheese, because most of you don't like it, then you yourselves should get bashed for listening to EDM, which most people don't like. But how do you feel when some ignorants tell you: "omg. EDM is such shit. It all sounds the same. I fucken hate it. Go sniff some coce somewhere ******".

and my point is that most people should just realize that they listen to cheese instead of arguing that it isnt. trance is cheese. there IS no getting around that fact. i see your point, and even though its valid and it makes (enough) sense...those people are to ignorant to mention. for now, lets try and put to rest this age old argument that we've all started already. alot of people put up inconsistant and unethical arguments. i want to hear someone point out why trance ISN'T cheesy. then we can argue. people get flamed and ragged on because for their sterotypical posts, wowing some overplayed, run-of-the-mill song, that all the DJs are playing, all the kiddies are raving about, and all the people with some kind of creative taste in music dont give a fuck about. its usually likely that the people who rave about these songs, have no prior taste in say, minimal techno. of course it doesnt apply to everyone, but you know, not EVERYONE gets flammed here. theres usually some kind of unspoken reason. now-a-days you can basicly tell these kind of people apart by there TA names, sigs, musical tastes, etc. I must say it again though, not everyone is like this, but it occurs so much, that of course it gets sterotyped. everythink that some EDM "outsiders", people who have no knowledge of the genre, mabye are turned off from trance, not because they are stupid, ignorant or anything, but because its just so goddamn fluffy? HOW on earth can any of you people deny that it ISN'T cheese? it boggles me fucking mind. stop yer goddamn bitchin, and just accept the fact, yes lots of people dont like EDM, and yes, trance is fluffy, cheesy, over the top, you could even go as far as goofy, but thats getting Too opinionated. theres just no denying that its cheesy, and you wonder why so many people tend to label it as just that. GARANTEED! 90% of the people who slack the genre have a far more in-depth taste than most of the ASOT listeners (ASOT listeners... well i dont just mean people who listen to ASOT, but that typical breed of EDM lover who is intolerant of other genres, but complains when people slack trance) i dont have to be tooo specific as im sure you wont argue, and will know what i mean. i find it to be true that ALOT of ASOT-kiddies wont listen to other styles aswell. or are even just completely ignorant of them in the first place. i hear about it all the time. So dont give me any of this "everyone on TA bitches about cheese". Mabye you are the naive one here. read my other past post aswell for more bitching/facts/opinions/ranting/ideas/etc

The thing is. It's all a matter of thinking. To you, who has been in the EDM scene for how long?, and who has really gotten a taste of a lot of different genres (I assume), trance is cheese. But the peepz who are just beginning to explore the scene and starting to get into it, trance is not cheeze. Get my point?
I just recently registered on this site, but I've from time to time browsed it since the beginning of 2004. And all I see is trance getting bashed.
A person comes and posts about, let's say...Tiesto-Flight643, and the flaming begins. What's the point of staying on this forum,for those bashers, when they don't like trance. I'm sure they have a shitload of more experience than me and everything, but what's the use of it. So far I haven't seen one reply that's something like: "You like that tune? You should check out that and that(from the more ""evolved"" genre, to introduce new things to those so-called n00bs). What's the use of experience when it's not used. Instead, I see only pointless ranting and bashing. Why be here then?
Why is the site called "tranceaddict" anyway?

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Originally posted by Jaanus The thing is. It's all a matter of thinking. To you, who has been in the EDM scene for how long?, and who has really gotten a taste of a lot of different genres (I assume), trance is cheese. But the peepz who are just beginning to explore the scene and starting to get into it, trance is not cheeze. Get my point? I just recently registered on this site, but I've from time to time browsed it since the beginning of 2004. And all I see is trance getting bashed. A person comes and posts about, let's say...Tiesto-Flight643, and the flaming begins. What's the point of staying on this forum,for those bashers, when they don't like trance. I'm sure they have a shitload of more experience than me and everything, but what's the use of it. So far I haven't seen one reply that's something like: "You like that tune? You should check out that and that(from the more ""evolved"" genre, to introduce new things to those so-called n00bs). What's the use of experience when it's not used. Instead, I see only pointless ranting and bashing. Why be here then? Why is the site called "tranceaddict" anyway?

I agree with you about : "To you, who has been in the EDM scene for how long?, and who has really gotten a taste of a lot of different genres (I assume), trance is cheese. But the peepz who are just beginning to explore the scene and starting to get into it, trance is not "

you know, it just gets tiring when people post the same stuff over and over again. i guess im glad there are just That many people getting into EDM. but, i have to point out, we have ALL be there at some point. Not knowing shit about it. when i came to this site, i had...well...not too much experience with EDM. But i learned, i was flamed, it will hopefully work out the same for them. looking at it that way, it reminds me of how the grade 10-12 would see the grade 8s as fresh meat. same kinda thing here i suppose. people learn through error.
they will get there experience wether i like it or not (half joking, heh). its not a matter of IF, its when, and how.


5:40 am here, i know its pathetic, but i need sleep. i will find some time in my day to possibly come on here (who am i kidding :happy2, and keep this going for as long as a i can. my perspective on it all now, is that im slowly making my point clearer (to myself) which each post, and slowly working out what i need to say, with, of course, some bullshit on the side.

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Originally posted by twisted people learn through error. its not a matter of IF, its when, and how.

I totally agree with you on that, but I just wish people would lighten up and be nicer for a while (even if it does get the point through slower) instead of throwing fireballs all the time.
At the end of the day we all share the same passion - music.

im really glad you agree, and so far, despite some things ive said, its been a respectful argument. thats true though, that should be enough you know, the passion we all share. i guess its only natrual for drama to stem when there are 45,30 users. i shouldnt get so upset, and neither should anyone else. but, however, saying that, i still think its a VERY valuable subject to discuss. mabye not for influence and power, but at least for knowledge and understanding. its just music after all

It's nice to have an intelligent discussion from time to time.


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EDM > Any other type of music

What gets me is that I happen to like the 'fluffier' trance, but generally with more upbeat or pumping feel to it, and I've been into EDM for 7 years, and I like breaks, and prog and whatever, a good track is just that regardless of genre.

Yet when some elitist whore comes and goes, "Bah, total cheese " it pisses me off! Ever heard the saying "If you havent got anything nice to say, dont say anything at all"?

Flame wars only start coz someone lights a match.

This thread is getting nastier with the second. This discussion will always be. Just listen what you like, and what if some TA's go down on you saying 'OMG cheese n00b' than it still would be the music you like. Although there are some TA's who are kind enought to explain where they listen too and advise you to try some tracks out to expand your horizons. Those people I highly appreciate.

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Originally posted by Project 7 Soon you will find the difference between cheese and non cheese

lol... says the man with the tiesto "just be" pic

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Originally posted by nwopper This thread is getting nastier with the second. This discussion will always be. Just listen what you like, and what if some TA's go down on you saying 'OMG cheese n00b' than it still would be the music you like. Although there are some TA's who are kind enought to explain where they listen too and advise you to try some tracks out to expand your horizons. Those people I highly appreciate.

That's all well and good, it's the people who don't realise that you have expanded your horizons, and decided what you like best.

The ones who think that when you 'discover' prog, you'll start to hate trance, etc

As I said, I like something from everywhere, but if I go clubbing, I predominantly want to hear euphoric trance, coz it's even minter in a club with lasers n stuff

WHAT IS CHEESE? I'd really like to know what you mean by it. It's hard to argue anything when you don't even know what people really are talking about.

(lets not reply "trance" or "mcprog" or some other lame one-word-bs)

Cheese is good, stupid fun. Nothing wrong with it. So long as it puts a smile on your face, it's done its job.

Trouble starts, though, when cheesey tunes begin to think they're something more than silly exuberence. Epic trance could learn something from happy hardcore in how it presents itself.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n The ones who think that when you 'discover' prog, you'll start to hate trance, etc As I said, I like something from everywhere, but if I go clubbing, I predominantly want to hear euphoric trance, coz it's even minter in a club with lasers n stuff

I wholeheartedly agree with what u said. Indeed I have discovered progressive but no way I feel all high an mighty now and bash the ASOT-lovers here. I will never neglect the good old Dutch supersaws and strings. Don't forget big events with fireworks and stuff. I was on a party where they lighted fireworks on the melody of 'Twisted' from Johan Gielen and that was incredible!

Re: u know for a trance board, alot of u are so anal about what music is not cheese

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Originally posted by calculmore i mean when people ask about a track but it's considered cheesy u guys bash the hell out him/her what kind of music does it have to be. u want stuff that is so boring and monotonous with no melody? what!? sometimes u assholes piss me off

GJ????????

damn cheeseheads

I'm still waiting for the thread starter to respond to the question asked of him about what his favorite producer is...

I like cheese. Hell, I fucking love cheese. Some of the best music ever written was pure cheese. Prodigy- Out of Space? Total fromage, but also one of the greatest pieces of dance music of its era. If you want to call trance cheese, or pop music, you can do. But if you genuinely think that makes it bad, you can fuck off, because you're elitist, and you obvious are boring as hell. Anyone who thinks fun music is bad music probably have no friends. Hell, I wouldn't be friends with you.

I don't think trance is pop music. Some of the most commercial stuff is cheesy, yes, but the middle of the road trance is not cheese. If you think it's cheese just because it has a melody you're wrong. But to dislike something because it's pop, or cheesy, is idiotic. And you think what you listen to is better, because not everyone has heard of it? Newsflash: there's a reason nobody has heard of it, and it isn't because it isn't "pop", it's because it's shit. Good music will always be popular, and it's as simple as that.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Ever heard the saying "If you havent got anything nice to say, dont say anything at all"?

Yes, and it's one of the most ridiculous sayings ever. If nobody criticized anything cos of fear of offending people there would be 0 progress, especially within music. Just make sure you put some effort into it.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Cheese is good, stupid fun. Nothing wrong with it. So long as it puts a smile on your face, it's done its job. Trouble starts, though, when cheesey tunes begin to think they're something more than silly exuberence. Epic trance could learn something from happy hardcore in how it presents itself.

Oh, fuck yes! Finally someone realises that Epic Trance is fucking stupid. Dance to it all you want, but it won't make you any smarter. It's the fluffiest, shallowest shit on the planet, that uses the most obvious methods of convincing its listener that it's "emotional" and "deep" (which it isn't, that's just your dumbass, X-ed out brain talking), and too many people here seem to claim that it's not.

twister: I agree with everything you've said here, too.

music isnt there to make you into some uber geek, music is for dancing.

As long as the music takes you on a journey you shouldnt be fussed.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon music isnt there to make you into some uber geek, music is for dancing.

And dancing is for letting loose and getting stupid. And if you listen to ASOT at home... well... you're just plain stupid.

i agree on the Asot front.

listened to it for the first time on thursday, three tunes in i turned off.

And hey, I'm not against dancing at all. Can't use ya brain all the time.

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